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Quoting Viktory
{quote} Oh no! After almost a year of being nothing else than just a silent lurker, and a distant "secret" fan ... ... I'm very sad to read this now, so for the first time, I had to stop-by and say it =( Really, fucking jealous vengeful trolls; you certainly behave like mere high school brats... shame on you! * Please, make no mistake; I "liked" lots of posts in a row a moment ago, but I thoughtfully read them all before, like I always do with a little bit of nostalgia. And well, I also like to "balance" things...
It is a fight between two groups of chitter-chatter to satisfy their egos. Emotional types of people fighting ghosts (with anonymous identities) and not realising they are affecting them more than anyone else.

Do you intend to become one of them?

Those who quit come back with a new identify. They can't live without FF.
Practice makes a person perfect
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People say shit happens, but people are stupid because they do this shit.
AFTER what I read here yesterday, I was devastated, frustrated, pissed of ... there is a lot more stupidity around than you even might expect ...
That reminded me an excellent essay of Carlo Cipolla, about human stupidity…
read it please if you haven't done it yet or read it again if did time ago ... only 5 bucks for a Kindle copy ... maybe the best five bucks ever invested in your life.

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Quoting mixedbags
{quote}Just don't use this tactics to get business out of naïve people in FF, very unethical.
myself is Unethical Financial Advisor. i would like to improve my unethical qualifications making my own company Unscrupulous Ltd. more unethical than ever before... i am opened to suggestions how to attract more naive people (my favourite group of people).
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting BlackNapkins
People say shit happens, but people are stupid and because they do this shit. AFTER what I read here yesterday, I was devastated, frustrated, pissed of ... there is a lot more stupidity around than you even might expect ... That reminded me an excellent essay of Carlo Cipolla, about human stupidity… read it please if you haven't done it yet or read it again if did time ago ... only 5 bucks for a Kindle copy ... maybe the best five bucks ever invested in your life. {image}
Love good books suggestions, just got it, thanks a lot mate!
If I don't mention SL and TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
Too many people on FF with small dicks and big egos,all they do is come on here and spoil it for other people,they call themselves men but act like dicks hiding behind a screen,god help us if theres another war and these 'men' get called up !
Hello all,

I would like to understand markets better and I come up with a basic question for which I can not find the answer:
Does market (aggressive) orders fill only limit (passive) orders? Or can market (Buy) order get filled also with market (Sell) order?

Thank you in advance.
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Quoting simnz
{quote} It is a fight between two groups of chitter-chatter to satisfy their egos. Emotional types of people fighting ghosts (with anonymous identities) and not realising they are affecting them more than anyone else. Do you intend to become one of them? Those who quit come back with a new identify. They can't live without FF.
I think it's normal to have some natural "rivalry" within highly competitive environments; and engaging in debates between different points of view, with proper dialectics, is indeed constructive. But as you say, the main issue with "online places" is partial anonymity (a double-edged sword, also good in many instances), hence facilitating dishonesty and/or hostility, guided by troubled egos and fake pride in several cases.

So yes, of course they are affecting themselves by wasting time and falling into a spiral of negative emotional interactions...

Why your question? Fortunately, I've been free of forums and social-networs >95% of my time. But hey, even a wee bit of interesting "gossip" can be sporadically entertaining. And most importantly, I really like some of these people after all.

PEACE
Quoting Mihajlou
Hello all, I would like to understand markets better and I come up with a basic question for which I can not find the answer: Does market (aggressive) orders fill only limit (passive) orders? Or can market (Buy) order get filled also with market (Sell) order? Thank you in advance.
Market buyers and market sellers never meet. They just obtain a position using current limit orders already sitting in current liquidity.
This is why the markets are not a true decentralised market place.

If I want to buy your home, I can approach you and to a private deal. That can’t happen on a forex market so the market really works as a centralised market place in real actual usage. That is why we actually can obtain real volume levels when trading even though we shouldn’t be able too.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Because they don't know English and can't open dictionary to see what word free mean. But the problem is not with that. Problem is that I was creating big post with a lot of charts and text. Then I hit the publish button and saw "you are suspended and you can't post". And all my work gone! All that free content for FF whom which they earn money gone. And it happened TWICE already! At the same time that idiot moodybot has created thread with exact naming like mine. I claimed and you know what happened? Nothing! So in this case FF can go and...

Dear ryuryu

Helping people in FF is a thankless job. So long you are happy helping others, never mind the shit thrown at you.

I know you have the passion to help and you will be back one.

Take a break!

Meantime,

enjoy this:

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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
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Meanwhile we continue to trade every day live.

Today was 11 trades.

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Total profit +31.42%

Win rate: 100%

All trades were made using volume delta approach + few simple OHCL rules like MA order, MA distance, Distance itself and so on.

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Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Dear ryuryu Helping people in FF is a thankless job. So long you are happy helping others, never mind the shit thrown at you. I know you have the passion to help and you will be back one. Take a break! Meantime, enjoy this: https://youtu.be/4L_yCwFD6Jo
Thank you for your support, my friend! Let's keep rocking!
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Ha Ha, another great result Ryan which goes with your earnings yesterday to adds up to nice weekly gains.

You know traders on Forex Factory often talking about trading NQ futures because it offers the most rewards in trading profits of every other market. Will they haven’t traded Crypto I feel yet.

LOOKSUSPT moved 15% in valued in a 30 minute period (actually not that special) which offers returns far greater than any US index can ever hope to offer.
Personally I took just 4% return on LOOKS but considering I was on a hut with bad internet at the edge of a 1500 ft cliff in a national park in Arizona - who’s going to complain about that.

Lastly our group got great news about a member who just had a new addition to their family, congratulations to N……. and her family
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Quoting RickM
Ha Ha, another great result Ryan which goes with your earnings yesterday to adds up to nice weekly gains. You know traders on Forex Factory often talking about trading NQ futures because it offers the most rewards in trading profits of every other market. Will they haven’t traded Crypto I feel yet. LOOKSUSPT moved 15% in valued in a 30 minute period (actually not that special) which offers returns far greater than any US index can ever hope to offer. Personally I took just 4% return on LOOKS but considering I was on a hut with bad internet at the...
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Yeah, crazy, coin named APE maid +24%
It is just impossible on forex.

Distance between EMA 6 High and EMA 6 Low was >1.5% on spikes I just opened the trade with volume higher EMA 6 High and auto close on EMA 6 Low.

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Quoting RickM
Lastly our group got great news about a member who just had a new addition to their family, congratulations to N……. and her family
Yeah it is a very good sign!!! CONGRATS to our sweet member
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Today +7.45% with manual trading and +2.76% full auto


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There were 22 trades. Winrate 100% as usual.

With auto it was 1066 trades on 5 pairs. 100% winrate too of course.
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I hope this mesage is not coming back from elliptic path

I tried sent one, Glad read Rick almost not yet miss Shpongle kick in little rock. But trading goes well with Amigoooos.

Have you ever think, which is the point, when not need to improve

This if for you tres Amigos.

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Ok guys, let's study few things a little.

What is volume?

Volume is how many trades was. What trades? Buys and Sells.
For example it there were 12 buys and 18 sells then the volume is 12 + 18 = 30.

Does price matter here? No. Price doesn't matter. Only quantity.

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What is delta? Delta is the difference between buys and sells.
If our example 12 - 18 = -6, so the delta here will be -6. It is negative, since there were more sells than buys.

Why it is important? Because market orders push the price and rule the market. If there will be only limit orders around there will be be movement on the market at all. So information about volume and delta is very important.

okay today: +7.63% manual + and 1.15% auto
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So we learned what volume is, what are market orders and what are limit.
Now what?

Now, we must check the things. What we have?

We have forex. There are no volume data available. All we have is "strange" tick-data. It is collected, smoothed, averaged data from many sources. Totally useless for trading purposes. All the things we can do with it is to draw candles. It will never say us how many buys were, or how many sells.

We have crypto. Here we have real trades data, so we can compute the volume and the delta. But. The problem here is that exchange websites do not provide that data as indicators and there is no ability to add custom one. You can use tradingvew, - you say. Yes. But here we have another problem: tradingview has no real traders data and it calculate the volume using about the same approach like fake forex tick data.

So what to do? The only way is to create custom charts with real volume and real delta on it. I'm on my way, so this screenshot is a first step for that.
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So it must look like this:
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You can see any chart you want, any timeframe, and you can see delta/volume (may be distance indocator too and many others if needed). Also there will be buttons to place trades.
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Quoting ryuryu
So we learned what volume is, what are market orders and what are limit. Now what? Now, we must check the things. What we have? We have forex. There are no volume data available. All we have is "strange" tick-data. It is collected, smoothed, averaged data from many sources. Totally useless for trading purposes. All the things we can do with it is to draw candles. It will never say us how many buys were, or how many sells. We have crypto. Here we have real trades data, so we can compute the volume and the delta. But. The problem here is that exchange...
Good Stuff Ryan, If you have an EA, would you please share it.
Thanks
Question for RyuRyu or RickM:

1. Do you analyse also Orderbook (DOM) or only Time&Sales (level 2 data)? Do you think that Orderbook (DOM) data is reliable and effective?
2. Is Binance a good source for trading data?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards.
Quoting forkstrader
{quote} Good Stuff Ryan, If you have an EA, would you please share it. Thanks
Hi forkstrader!

I have EAs for forex, also I have several trading bots written on python for crypto. And a lot of indicators I made using tradingview pine script language.

But I'll not share them, I see no purpose to do it. I can share my custom charting, but with small group of traders only. I can share only if I see some will contribute too. For example one great trader shared his vol/delta approach with me. Another great trader shared her mt4 indicator (a copy of mine distance indi). Another one great guy teach me how to code with python. That I call a trading friends - we share ideas, approached, calculations, stats and so on. In this case I can share my work.
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How delta works:

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it was just the top

Let me explain the mechanics of the market once again using this great example.

When big bull movement occur that mean someone start to hit buy button. When market buy comes to market it start to search for limit order to fill. Sell limit order.
When it filled next one will fill using higher sell limit order and so on. But remember that we see only limit orders in the orderbook and market orders in recent trades.
But we don't see positions and stops. But there are stop for sure. We know that stops are market orders too. Always. You have to write it down and remember: stops are always market orders. So how they act? Same like some hit buy button. Once stop triggered it start to search for nearest limit order to fill (to take the liquidity from it). That's why price jumps so hard.

But how we can use this situation? Since some want to buy and there are some stops that want to fill too then if the DELTA (difference between buys and sells) is very big - then we place SELL LIMIT ORDER. And it will be filled!
But, there are no more people who want to click buy. There are no more stops around. What will happen? Correct. Stops for longs start to work the same way. And it give us the ability to close the position using another LIMIT orders again.

That is how every market works. No support, no resistance, no fibonacci, no rectangles, no "liquidity" areas. That all exist only in traders imagination. Only limit and market orders! Only hardcore!
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