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  • #241
  • Apr 24, 2026 3:57am Apr 24, 2026 3:57am
Do bears really have the firepower left to push prices down by big amount? I have my doubts that they do, but we'll see. Bulls strength seems to be growing
  • #242
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:21am Apr 24, 2026 4:21am
Quoting Zappa
These are most important lines I'm watching right now. If it stops me out it might go back to that TL below. Will it hold again? I have my doubts and don't want to be long at that point hoping it will. Above we have that broken TL thats been containing prices. If it makes another attempt at that line it might break to the upside this time. {image}
No new information. Just added the lower trend line you highlighted to my chart. Right now price is contained within the day before's price range and is also a doji candle. Doji candles mean indecision and/or balance. We need a trigger to move price either way. Something is already on ground and that is risk on stock market mode.. I am looking higher
NB. Crude oil is failing. Perhaps people have heard something -like Iran willing to talk or the man himself jawboning the situation
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  • #243
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:28am Apr 24, 2026 4:28am
Quoting Zappa
Do bears really have the firepower left to push prices down by big amount? I have my doubts that they do, but we'll see. Bulls strength seems to be growing
I can't fully answer that. The markets are liquid and where the money will go depends on trader's net psychology (fear/greed).
All you and I can wish for is that our analysis puts us in the direction that aligns with the big boys
If you think you can or cannot do it you are correct
  • #244
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:43am Apr 24, 2026 4:43am
Quoting Olu
{quote} I can't fully answer that. The markets are liquid and where the money will go depends on trader's net psychology (fear/greed). All you and I can wish for is that our analysis puts us in the direction that aligns with the big boys

I keep wondering "how much bitcoin is there really left TO sell??". So much of the circulating supply is locked up, and there are still big buyers like Strategy, governments, and others. I keep hearing in my head something that Michael Saylor said recently that "bitcoin has won". What exactly does he mean by that? He's been buying like a mad man, happily buying whats been offered for sale. He's buying from the big boys that have been selling. Did he see how the volume of sell orders has declined and realize that the storm is over, hence the "bitcoin has won"?
  • #245
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:46am Apr 24, 2026 4:46am
Saylor is adamant that large institutions around the globe are just now gaining exposure to BTC and has made some wild predictions on how high BTC will go. I think he said something like $21,000,000 .

He's no dummy, and has the conviction of BTC success like no other. He just might be right
  • #246
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:48am Apr 24, 2026 4:48am
Quoting Zappa
Saylor is adamant that large institutions around the globe are just now gaining exposure to BTC and has made some wild predictions on how high BTC will go. I think he said something like $21,000,000 . He's no dummy, and has the conviction of BTC success like no other. He just might be right
Bro, I wrote the question above, could you answer it?
  • #247
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:52am Apr 24, 2026 4:52am
Quoting Zappa
Do bears really have the firepower left to push prices down by big amount? I have my doubts that they do, but we'll see. Bulls strength seems to be growing
100% we have infinite liquidity to the downside and we left the most ugly lows ever, we wouldn't leave that there and set new aths or enter a bull market it's going to be a very obvious range manipulation and expansion back down, the question is when and it looks soon maybe 86k happens as thats my elite short zone area to look for swing shorts but i'm a bit worried we wont get there, We didnt properly accumulate this entire range we had a mini accumulation right before our big move up, but when you dont properly accumulate you do what we've done in the bull cycle where btc went down to 74k and where ADA nuked to its eql lows that it didnt fully take multiple times, Similar scenario here but we're in a bear market, this will prob be our last green month like last bear cycle. The question of if there's enough supply to sell is irrelevant, there's always supply to sell the markets very liquid pretending that there might be not enough supply to sell to me is hopeium.
  • #248
  • Apr 24, 2026 4:53am Apr 24, 2026 4:53am
I try to just focus on what the charts are telling me, but when I think about long term outlook for bitcoin (and look at chart) we might be at a spot right now where a breakout is imminent and just the beginning of a big bull market. Does it really make sense to take profits at certain targets or just let it run and add size along the way, hoping to catch the BIG WAVE?
  • #249
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:02am Apr 24, 2026 5:02am
If BTC were to do something like this, the logical thing would be to just hold the thing and add size as it goes my way instead of going for little $3,000 moves here and there and missing the big picture
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  • #250
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:05am Apr 24, 2026 5:05am
Quoting Zappa
I try to just focus on what the charts are telling me, but when I think about long term outlook for bitcoin (and look at chart) we might be at a spot right now where a breakout is imminent and just the beginning of a big bull market. Does it really make sense to take profits at certain targets or just let it run and add size along the way, hoping to catch the BIG WAVE?
you Never, never in bitcoins history has a low been inputted while leaving liquidity like this, even your last range was a perfect example, most fast big moves down leave horrible lows and don't properly accumulate, you had 1 mini accumulation highlighted in yellow nearly the bottom of the range but apart from that that's very minute and overall how much liquidity you have downside is shocking, like actually shocking, to think ETFS have never seen a cent of red in their life, to think most ppl are buying here as its slightly below the 50% retracement and the hopeium of supply and Micro strategy and all this government involvement to think they'd leave this for all time highs is the most unlikely thing i've ever heard, they've never once left lows like this EVER, especially not in a bear market in the middle of it where all the bitcoin boner longers are buying, the time to buy is coming but it's not now, to lie and create hope that maybe MAYBE its the big wave is an easy way to go under water for many many months and ruin your chances of actually making serious money because of fomo and its how everyone loses.
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  • #251
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:14am Apr 24, 2026 5:14am
Quoting Zappa
If BTC were to do something like this, the logical thing would be to just hold the thing and add size as it goes my way instead of going for little $3,000 moves here and there and missing the big picture {image}
. My brain can't imaging those levels yet.
I would love to be able to hold a trade to that price.
I tend to look for those 'little $3000' moves.
My idea of going to the 50-60k are would be my longest bitcoin hold ever if it ever gains traction
If you think you can or cannot do it you are correct
  • #252
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:22am Apr 24, 2026 5:22am
Quoting Zappa
If BTC were to do something like this, the logical thing would be to just hold the thing and add size as it goes my way instead of going for little $3,000 moves here and there and missing the big picture {image}
i will use your chart as an example, every low in history has had some sort of a po3 aka range, manipulation, expansion or at minimum a model 2 accumulation with significant liquidity to the upside which obviously is an aspect of a po3. What do we have here to bottom out, ok we hit A macro demand zone fine, but what did we do in that demand zone, there's no wyckoff accumulation going on, actually this is just setting up a bearish po3, I see 0 reason and nothing in history backs up that this will be the low we can talk about the supply and demand all day but at the end of the day we have billions of longs below us all underneath these like 6+ equal lows we have while we're continuously distributing, There's nothing to indicate a bottom here but fomo and hope
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  • #253
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:24am Apr 24, 2026 5:24am
Quoting fireflycrypt
{quote} you Never, never in bitcoins history has a low been inputted while leaving liquidity like this, even your last range was a perfect example, most fast big moves down leave horrible lows and don't properly accumulate, you had 1 mini accumulation highlighted in yellow nearly the bottom of the range but apart from that that's very minute and overall how much liquidity you have downside is shocking, like actually shocking, to think ETFS have never seen a cent of red in their life, to think most ppl are buying here as its slightly below the 50%...
Hi FireflyCrypt
Thanks for chiming in. I hear you.
I am longer term bullish from much lower levels hence my charts showing the bear flag.
This animal is mighty volatile.
What I notice is short term it correlates with the stock markets so I am trading it with an eye on what the markets are doing.
Both directions.
If you think you can or cannot do it you are correct
  • #254
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:28am Apr 24, 2026 5:28am
Quoting Olu
{quote} Hi FireflyCrypt Thanks for chiming in. I hear you. I am longer term bullish from much lower levels hence my charts showing the bear flag. This animal is mighty volatile. What I notice is short term it correlates with the stock markets so I am trading it with an eye on what the markets are doing. Both directions.
Yea i mean your charts fine you're trading how you're trading, I was mainly responding to the "Zappa"
  • #255
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:30am Apr 24, 2026 5:30am
Quoting fireflycrypt
{quote} you Never, never in bitcoins history has a low been inputted while leaving liquidity like this, even your last range was a perfect example, most fast big moves down leave horrible lows and don't properly accumulate, you had 1 mini accumulation highlighted in yellow nearly the bottom of the range but apart from that that's very minute and overall how much liquidity you have downside is shocking, like actually shocking, to think ETFS have never seen a cent of red in their life, to think most ppl are buying here as its slightly below the 50%...
First off, go F yourself for accusing me of "lying and creating false hope". I'm just on here sharing my trades and thoughts. You disagree thats fine, but don't come at me like that. Maybe you are right and maybe I am wrong, but its not like I don't have a stop less than $1,500 away, and I was bearish just yesterday, so my views can change on a dime.

Get your emotions together and be respectful
  • #256
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:34am Apr 24, 2026 5:34am
Quoting Zappa
{quote} First off, go F yourself for accusing me of "lying and creating false hope". I'm just on here sharing my trades and thoughts. You disagree thats fine, but don't come at me like that. Maybe you are right and maybe I am wrong, but its not like I don't have a stop less than $1,500 away, and I was bearish just yesterday, so my views can change on a dime. Get your emotions together and be respectful
Chill, I'm not saying YOU'RE lying or YOU'RE creating false hope, I was saying the entire space of the government involvement etc, I'm not coming at YOU, I'm sharing my thoughts and showing the history of btc and what it's never done before and what it has always done and what it repeated even last range, you can disagree with me and do what you like, im just tryna show you the perspective of whats always happened at every major bottom and where it has never majorly bottomed and why, if you believe the supply and demand and wanna go over that then go for it and just say i appreciate it but i think im right COOL, but I'm not coming at you im just explaining and Its not rly possible to explain opposing view points without sounding like a total knob because well moneys involved and humans naturally wanna be right not wrong and take that as a challenge, im NOT challenging you i was tryna potentially help you if you agreed or saw my viewpoint, chill out man
  • #257
  • Apr 24, 2026 5:55am Apr 24, 2026 5:55am
Quoting Zappa
{quote} First off, go F yourself for accusing me of "lying and creating false hope". I'm just on here sharing my trades and thoughts. You disagree thats fine, but don't come at me like that. Maybe you are right and maybe I am wrong, but its not like I don't have a stop less than $1,500 away, and I was bearish just yesterday, so my views can change on a dime. Get your emotions together and be respectful
Zappa is fuming
Don't let the comments rattle you Zappa. We are just speaking out minds here.
And you did not say price was going there. Just talking scenarios and trading strategies
If you think you can or cannot do it you are correct
  • #258
  • Apr 24, 2026 6:03am Apr 24, 2026 6:03am
Quoting Olu
{quote} Zappa is fuming Don't let the comments rattle you Zappa. We are just speaking out minds here. And you did not say price was going there. Just talking scenarios and trading strategies
Don't like being accused of lying or trying to manipulate. I ain't selling anything in here. Guy sounds like a newbie with a couple years experience and thinks he knows it all. No control over emotions. He's probably been holding a short 70k, praying it drops, and angry at anyone suggesting its going higher
  • #259
  • Apr 24, 2026 6:11am Apr 24, 2026 6:11am
Back to the markets. We are 25 minutes away from the start of the US friday session.
The chart shows where we stand at the moment. Red box is yesterday's price range
Crude oil is still commanding things. And price is bang in the middle if its range
If it tanks then Bitcoin and the stock markets will rally. I have noticed some times when bitcoin diverges from this correlation though
NB: Price being in the middle of its range makes me want to sit on my hands for now
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  • #260
  • Apr 24, 2026 6:12am Apr 24, 2026 6:12am
Quoting Zappa
{quote} Don't like being accused of lying or trying to manipulate. I ain't selling anything in here. Guy sounds like a newbie with a couple years experience and thinks he knows it all. No control over emotions. He's probably been holding a short 70k, praying it drops, and angry at anyone suggesting its going higher
If you think you can or cannot do it you are correct
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