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#20,581
Dec 13, 2025 3:23am Dec 13, 2025 3:23am

firatc
| Joined Dec 2025 | Status: Trader | 20 Posts

Quoting bdsilvano

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{quote} or maybe here {image}

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Hey bdsilvano how are you? I’ve been following your posts for a while. You trade style similar to mine so it caught my attention. I have a question I’d like to ask. Do you use Bookmap or footprint charts, or do you trade using only price action(just normal candlesticks)?

#20,582
Dec 13, 2025 4:55am Dec 13, 2025 4:55am

Raventine
Joined Aug 2020 | Status: Zeroing In on Chaos | 2,008 Posts

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{quote} Just a bit extra explanation....why sell. Daily period 16_22 Oct level below. Print key levels before Drop) 4315,4320,4330,4350 ,4355( sell off happen)...ATH. That period reach 4250,4245 as a minimum target as well. Friday last week ...have pattern drop pullback and drop again.......when i follow the pattern this friday then change the intention....lmao. Round numbers Gold habits (20,30,46,55,65,80)....quarters, Hakf and round numbers....confluance with that key levels. {image} Manage the size to entry....start small...

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all is unconfirm level and right at buy target as well as strong sell level, what do you expect it work without any confirmation? the only confirmed level was 4180 and 4320, the whole push up is a mere trap, obviously due to no confirmation, at the last hour now it confirmed 4259 but it is in M30 timeframe which mean intraday, what do you expect it last? for some reason, to take out ATH it must linger here for few days, even a week, otherwise it will drop at to extreme buy level now stay at 4180. Lossing 4180 meaning no more uptrend, price could take out liquidity at top side once more before huge drop to 4k1 or 4k.

and you also looking at below m30 level, which is trap for most of time...

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#20,583
Dec 13, 2025 5:18am Dec 13, 2025 5:18am

npfortuner
| Joined May 2019 | Status: Trader | 3 Posts

Can I have to wait for TP 4,230 ?
l loss -440$, then I want to take it back !

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#20,584
Dec 13, 2025 6:16am Dec 13, 2025 6:16am

Goldslave
Joined Jun 2025 | Status: One Line 4 Sessions | 1,100 Posts

Quoting fx4money

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{quote} this is a nice real and useful input

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Thanks a lot

Stay Gold

#20,585
Dec 13, 2025 6:24am Dec 13, 2025 6:24am

Goldslave
Joined Jun 2025 | Status: One Line 4 Sessions | 1,100 Posts

Quoting Raventine

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{quote} all is unconfirm level and right at buy target as well as strong sell level, what do you expect it work without any confirmation? the only confirmed level was 4180 and 4320, the whole push up is a mere trap, obviously due to no confirmation, at the last hour now it confirmed 4259 but it is in M30 timeframe which mean intraday, what do you expect it last? for some reason, to take out ATH it must linger here for few days, even a week, otherwise it will drop at to extreme buy level now stay at 4180. Lossing 4180 meaning no more uptrend, price...

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Its a good question...before answer that suit you.

whould pls elaborate....what the critetia/ condition its " unconfirm" or " confirm" for such level? Please.

Any example for that?

I will answer it tomorrow. Thanks

Stay Gold

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Edited 7:10am Dec 13, 2025 6:41am | Edited 7:10am

Raventine
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{quote} Its a good question...before answer that suit you. whould pls elaborate....what the critetia/ condition its " unconfirm" or " confirm" for such level? Please. Any example for that? I will answer it tomorrow. Thanks

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please what is print key level? Confirm level or cash flow confirmed level with test, is a accumulation or distribution level that price return and leave behind only price tail (wick rejection) not close into it or strong engulf rejection from that level which indicate buyer or seller still hold that level, unconfirm level mean nothing happen yet at that level or no returning of price yet (but there is uncertain of reaction when price return 50:50 chance)

i dont even know why your level just mere 5 price away each other and at veeeeery top of the chart, 5$ which is not even close to 1 ATR those day in M30 (which is about 8.5$ with period of 5k) -.- this mean you could get whipsaw instant in just mere 30min and IT DID...

look at my chart lol, it simple demand supply trading skill, nothing special at all. Very standardize SL of intraday trader is using ATR for calculate SL and volatility of market (Im not using it, but most of good trader i know using this, also for algo).

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#20,587
Dec 13, 2025 6:43am Dec 13, 2025 6:43am

notabdullah1
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i forgot to post my analysis last week and posting the trades here is just alot of hassel ...so currently i am still sticking to my previous sell side bias but i won't be hesitant to take longs too cuz there is still a possiblities of taking out the ATH ....i was in the fryday drop but i was in early and i came and stop me at breakeven a dumb mistake of me but all good after all i was able to cath a long form 4207 did not got the whole big move but got enough for me ...... will be really nice to see all your opinions and ideas too

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#20,588
Dec 13, 2025 7:14am Dec 13, 2025 7:14am

notabdullah1
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Quoting Raventine

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{quote} please what is print key level? Confirm level or cash flow confirmed level with test, is a accumulation or distribution level that price return and leave behind only price tail (wick rejection) not close into it or strong engulf rejection from that level which indicate buyer or seller still hold that level, unconfirm level mean nothing happen yet at that level or no returning of price yet (but there is uncertain of reaction when price return 50:50 chance) i dont even know why your level just mere 5 price away each other and at veeeeery...

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still one of the most helpfull people here ......thanks for the views always looking to learn from people like you especialy on bigger time frames......i'll really appreicate if you will tell us more about how you use atr to calculate stop and other tips that you think might be helpfull

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Edited 7:31am Dec 13, 2025 7:20am | Edited 7:31am

bdsilvano
Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Forex Master | 3,104 Posts

I believe on Next Monday we will trade lower around 4280 and if we Trade lower on this we will headed back at 4205 area. on the upside I see 4325 as a Resistance

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#20,590
Dec 13, 2025 7:25am Dec 13, 2025 7:25am

fx4money
Joined May 2009 | Status: Trader | 2,088 Posts

Quoting Raventine

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{quote} please what is print key level? Confirm level or cash flow confirmed level with test, is a accumulation or distribution level that price return and leave behind only price tail (wick rejection) not close into it or strong engulf rejection from that level which indicate buyer or seller still hold that level, unconfirm level mean nothing happen yet at that level or no returning of price yet (but there is uncertain of reaction when price return 50:50 chance) i dont even know why your level just mere 5 price away each other and at veeeeery...

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this could also be a good input. haven't tried to learn the ATR. and i am not a good trader, happy enough with 10-20% per month

LUCKY golden trades, LUCKY gold investor trading style

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Edited 7:53am Dec 13, 2025 7:28am | Edited 7:53am

Raventine
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{quote} still one of the most helpfull people here ......thanks for the views always looking to learn from people like you especialy on bigger time frames......i'll really appreicate if you will tell us more about how you use atr to calculate stop and other tips that you think might be helpfull

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Looking for Average True Range, ATR in short, very common indicator, set up period of 500-5k for smooth line of low time frame, that is the number for the whipsaw from last low or high could expected with accurate around 95% most of the time (remember this work at strong level only, could bring lower to m1 if you can refine your zone till M1 (around 2$ for gold which is my standard SL) or M5 for FX pair). For better R/r could use 1/3 of this number but the accurate will be much lower (dont know number exactly but it drop dramatically) remember to adding spread to ATR as well...

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#20,592
Dec 13, 2025 7:48am Dec 13, 2025 7:48am

Goldslave
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Quoting Raventine

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{quote} please what is print key level? Confirm level or cash flow confirmed level with test, is a accumulation or distribution level that price return and leave behind only price tail (wick rejection) not close into it or strong engulf rejection from that level which indicate buyer or seller still hold that level, unconfirm level mean nothing happen yet at that level or no returning of price yet (but there is uncertain of reaction when price return 50:50 chance) i dont even know why your level just mere 5 price away each other and at veeeeery...

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Now i see....a rejection candle ( M1 that confirm by higher level)...usually happen at strong S/R.

back to your question,
Imagine you want or plan to sell above 4300 last NY.....the only level you have ATH.....FVG? Resistance? Which one?
If you mastering Deviation you got levels mentioned by @ Deal ( see his post).
What i trying to do is...to find " key level" in the past that most respected ( Open, Close, high) ...its 4 daily candle that respect the level i mentioned....

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Why every 5k? Because i dont know which one. But i know( sure) one of them. I made interval 10K when it reach 4340.

Why like " martiangle strategy"?
Until 4315 i still have buy ....mean hegde to building sell position.
Whipsaw instant? Yes if i start big or if i dont have buy orders before that profit to prepare worst case.

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TBH ....if i know it will go higher better i wait. And as the idea of @Deal.....4330 is good TP ....a level to start sell .....while waiting the 2 condition below to happen at NY:

Engulfing...in your term confirmed level to sell ( that unfortunely not very clear seen)
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Divergence indi that need to monitor.....

In simple word....its a speculative but calculated ....what i believe to happen with risk factor. (RRR)...if worst case happen nothng to loose anyway....because still have profit( small)...."high risk high returm".

My mistake not close sell at 4259 or 60 area...greedy factor.

Hope it clear

Stay Gold

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Edited 8:12am Dec 13, 2025 7:56am | Edited 8:12am

Raventine
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{quote} Now i see....a rejection candle ( M1 that confirm by higher level)...usually happen at strong S/R. back to your question, Imagine you want or plan to sell above 4300 last NY.....the only level you have ATH.....FVG? Resistance? Which one? If you mastering Deviation you got levels mentioned by @ Deal ( see his post). What i trying to do is...to find " key level" in the past that most respected ( Open, Close, high) ...its 4 daily candle that respect the level i mentioned.... {image} Why every 5k? Because i dont know which one. But i know( sure)...

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dont know what to say but... i know exactly where it could start to drop...
Im the fibo boiz

dont use deviation, but 2 things got some similar as i and Deal agree each other
Engulfing candle 0.0 dont you know it? please do internet search...
And i do zero indicator except the one i wrote to looking for accumulation/ distribution/ OB/ inside sign (my eyes grow bad since i got to trade to live

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and i just shoot 1, one big enough to cover whole week or month, reduce most of failure of big SL

not get plenty of trade like others. You could see i put 0.08 only but i got another account for scaling, copy small account putting 0.08 each time, you know, for the psychology, losing big money is not good for my mental heath at all

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#20,594
Dec 13, 2025 8:17am Dec 13, 2025 8:17am

Deal
Joined Nov 2024 | Status: Trader | 5,210 Posts

Quoting Goldslave

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{quote} Now i see....a rejection candle ( M1 that confirm by higher level)...usually happen at strong S/R. back to your question, Imagine you want or plan to sell above 4300 last NY.....the only level you have ATH.....FVG? Resistance? Which one? If you mastering Deviation you got levels mentioned by @ Deal ( see his post). What i trying to do is...to find " key level" in the past that most respected ( Open, Close, high) ...its 4 daily candle that respect the level i mentioned.... {image} Why every 5k? Because i dont know which one. But i know( sure)...

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I have some ideas to short monday, not necessary i will, sell at 4306.455 tp 4275.055 minimun, 30m going tap 4322.155 is still valid a sell, but most likely is the opportunity to close the bad entry at first level...
This is a short movement, not look for swing bias yet...

#20,595
Dec 13, 2025 8:29am Dec 13, 2025 8:29am