Trump: Last weeks Job’s Report was rigged, just like the numbers prior to the Presidential Election were Rigged | Crypto Craft
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ffghost
Aug 4, 2025 9:30am — Edited
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Quoting Polimini
To be fair, those revisions don't seem acceptable at all, with Trump or without Trump. What the hell is going on in the USA? The incompetence problem sees to run deep and the US seems to be using smoke and mirrors to portrait the state or their economy. Can we trust anything they say anymore?
No question, there should not be numbers THAT far off. I (we?) said the same thing about the huge revision on last year's numbers though. How/why so much emphasis is still placed on jobs data when the reporting has been highly suspect is beyond me, but I do understand it is a key economic indicator.

I think the push, however, should be less about "fake data" to manipulate one way or another, and more about "we want ACCURATE data".

Let's put this into perspective. Either...
a) Trump believes the numbers were previously RIGHT and these revisions are wrong (so the economy is strong) or,
B) he believes there should have been no need for revision and the correct numbers should have been reported the first time (weak numbers would have seen negative market reactions earlier.....and he would have had to blame the office for putting out "bad" numbers during prior releases).

Either way, it looks bad during Trump's term.

Now, however, if you ever see a bad print (with a Trump appointee), you can be certain that the numbers are REALLY BAD.

Hard to trust data if you cannot trust the source.
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Momofrmnyc
Aug 4, 2025 8:10am
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So the numbers in between weren't rigged?
TraderTero
Aug 4, 2025 9:16am
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Quoting Trader#8837
Can they quit reporting anything this squidge says anymore. I feel so embarrassed for the people of the USA. It was funny for a while but now its just sad
No need to be embarrassed. They are just getting what they voted for.
Bones
Aug 4, 2025 10:31am
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Only 462k revisions down this year, but on par with Biden.
They were wrong to upside under Biden and Trump.
The birth and death of companies seem the most abused element, but it's all a made-up number regardless.
It's a government-produced statistic that's mostly overestimated recently.
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Polimini
Aug 4, 2025 9:21am
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To be fair, those revisions don't seem acceptable at all, with Trump or without Trump.
What the hell is going on in the USA? The incompetence problem sees to run deep and the US seems to be using smoke and mirrors to portrait the state or their economy.

Can we trust anything they say anymore?
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TraderTero
Aug 4, 2025 9:35am
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Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
Only 4 years left for you to make "MAGA" happen... Which also literally means that YOU admit that USA is not great at the moment... Just saying...
No worries, drug prices have already come down 1500%.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...051020925.html
GainingBucks
Aug 4, 2025 10:58am
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Quoting Bones
Only 462k revisions down this year, but on par with Biden. They were wrong to upside under Biden and Trump. The birth and death of companies seem the most abused element, but it's all a made-up number regardless. It's a government-produced statistic that's mostly overestimated recently. {image}
No way! You mean revisions have been happening forever? I was told only Trump had those.
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Schultz
Aug 5, 2025 1:22am
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Quoting ocd
{quote} This is my opinion, regardless of who is the sitting president, I always hope for "the best and the brightest" with integrity in positions of power and/or authority. But anymore, we're living in the world of Forrest Gump where momma always said "life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get."
I agree - people in high office, whether it be President, or the Senate, or Congress, whatever, don't pretend to understand the complexities/nuances, and rely totally on expert advisors for guidance.

I guess my point, poorly made, was that these clever guys have forsaken all what they know and good in pursuit of mammon. You mention integrity - that would be great, but sadly, not here.

I have read a few things they have written to justify their stance and trust me, they are clutching at straws to reach the conclusions they do. That is putting it nicely. They get some really basic stuff quite wrong, but couch it in what appears to be serious and well regarded analysis. Clever tactic.

I am very disappointed, as are economists all over the world, but I imagine particularly those with an affiliation to Harvard.
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Ata-Turkoglu
Aug 4, 2025 9:18am
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Only 4 years left for you to make "MAGA" happen...

Which also literally means that YOU admit that USA is not great at the moment... Just saying...
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Ryder
Aug 4, 2025 9:52am
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Over a long term (say over the past 12 months), the labor number have to level out and be correct. In any given month, the numbers can be distorted either up or down. In the several months leading up to the 2024 election, the number were faked larger to support Kamala. Now these distortions must be corrected to bring the last 12 months into balance. Take away your Trump Derangement Syndrome and admit the truth.
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ocd
Aug 4, 2025 10:19am
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Quoting Polimini
To be fair, those revisions don't seem acceptable at all, with Trump or without Trump. What the hell is going on in the USA? The incompetence problem sees to run deep and the US seems to be using smoke and mirrors to portrait the state or their economy. Can we trust anything they say anymore?
Yep, the US has major issues. But where the US goes, the world goes.

I think it's an accountability problem first, greed second, and lastly an intelligence issue.

White collar criminals will look at numbers and immediately know that those can be manipulated. I am pretty sure most card carrying members that can prove they're US citizens think the entire political system is rigged by white collar criminals.

Greed is a morality issue and since the US has given up on religion, morality is in a freefall state.

And when did the US just give up on real education? Most universities are worthless...I can't imagine what parents feel when they drop their daughter off at a campus.
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Schultz
Aug 4, 2025 10:50am
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Quoting TraderTero
{quote} No worries, drug prices have already come down 1500%. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...051020925.html
I'm beginning to understand how he went bankrupt six times. As someone mentions in the article, Dear Leader is totally innumerate.

Some (I forget details) bankruptcies involved casinos, which are traditionally rock solid money making machines.
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Schultz
Aug 4, 2025 11:09am
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Quoting ocd
{quote} And when did the US just give up on real education? Most universities are worthless.
Two of Dear Leaders top advisors and advocates of tariffs -

Peter Navarro Has a PhD (Economics) from Harvard.

Stephen Miran has a PhD (Economics) from Harvard.

The dudes *have* to be doing it for the money or prestige or whatever, because they have more than three neurons to rub together.
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DwnUndrTrdr
Aug 4, 2025 8:30am
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The job numbers, real or rigged, aren’t your worry Donny. Better get someone on the inside to massage those inflation figures coming down the pipe if you want to cut rates.
Rising unemployment and rising inflation… yikes!
DwnUndrTrdr
Aug 4, 2025 9:46am
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Quoting TraderTero
{quote} No worries, drug prices have already come down 1500%. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...051020925.html
Benevolent big pharma is going to pay the consumer to “buy” their product. It’s going to be a huuuge cash injection into the economy! No need to cut rates!
jilvin
Aug 4, 2025 8:18am
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Whatever data that doesn't match with my beliefs are rigged.
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Trader#0229
Aug 4, 2025 8:20am
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if it goes against Trump then it is rigged
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BillyIdol
Aug 4, 2025 8:48am
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So bad numbers for Joe Biden was also fake? Biden also has bad moments..
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c-note
Aug 4, 2025 9:44am
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Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
Only 4 years left for you to make "MAGA" happen... Which also literally means that YOU admit that USA is not great at the moment... Just saying...
just saying you are wrong keep your politics to yourself
Trader#8837
Aug 4, 2025 8:53am
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Can they quit reporting anything this squidge says anymore. I feel so embarrassed for the people of the USA. It was funny for a while but now its just sad
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Nordling
Aug 4, 2025 10:09am
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NFP revisions were not impactful bc they were not big revisions except the April report (may 2). Which was a big revision down.

Other than that, everything seems normal. It's just Trump making excuses to place his men in power and take over the institutions. Erdogan style.

I hope Trump doesn't ruin our beloved NFP data and turn it into a useless survey that has zero impact on the markets.
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Ryder
Aug 4, 2025 10:12am
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A true leftist. The left always accuse others of doing the same thing they are doing. Hillary is a classic example of this. Trump is not a saint, but one cannot deny his achievements and is fight for what is best for America. Period. I will not respond to this thread again, so save you evil for others.
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ocd
Aug 4, 2025 1:46pm
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Quoting Schultz
{quote} Two of Dear Leaders top advisors and advocates of tariffs - Peter Navarro Has a PhD (Economics) from Harvard. Stephen Miran has a PhD (Economics) from Harvard.

This is my opinion, regardless of who is the sitting president, I always hope for "the best and the brightest" with integrity in positions of power and/or authority. But anymore, we're living in the world of Forrest Gump where momma always said "life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get."
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GainingBucks
Aug 4, 2025 10:56am
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Quoting Trader#A306
This confirms that the entire U.S. is rigged with corruption, political assassinations and lies. Time to stop the orgy and say No to anything that comes from Trump and any other white house puppet.
The entire world is and has been extremely corrupt. This is nothing new and has been this way since forever.
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GainingBucks
Aug 4, 2025 11:02am
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Quoting Trader#8837
{quote} The only thing trump and truth have in common is they both start with TR. It's sad how the trumpanzees follow suit when something doesn't work in their favour it must be a lie. I disagree with you ergo it's not because I know what I am talking about it must be just because I don't like trump, nithing to do with his bullshit track record its just my syndrome.How pathetic?
You should look at the chart posted 4 posts down from yours. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Bad forecasting and revisions have always been a thing and the guy you think has the worst track record actually does not have it.
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Schultz
Aug 5, 2025 1:34am
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Quoting green789
I do not think the polls were rigged.The US Fed is just cautious it is a good approach ,Powell first want to see what the impact of Trump tariffs will be on the US Economy and also the world..Trump pushed for lower interest rates but it is best Jerome Powell is hesitant first, want to see were things will go.
Yes, that is all good, BUT - let me throw this in. To think about, calmly.

The "problem" is, that Trump may be kinda right, whether he knows it or not.

Unemployment and inflation statistics actually significantly lag what is really happening, that is, real growth. Think - for example, in the real world, employers can be reluctant to put off staff despite business going downhill for a period of time. Same with prices - they are often well known to be "sticky", in both directions.

So by the time bad numbers come out, as Trump says, it may already be too late. I have no idea of what is correct, I am just throwing this out there.

Because I am confused because recent US GDP numbers have been reasonably good, unlike some other countries, eg, Germany. Crossing fingers there is not a big back adjustment going back a few months! It happens, you know.....
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StewGnom
Aug 4, 2025 12:12pm
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And the broad range of polls are rigged too (?), as they show the lowest rating ("ever in history" ?) for a president`s first 7 months. Give him a medal of honor. Soon he will beat Nixon too (Watergate). But he shrugg it off as they are all lefty polls, right ? Wonder if he can rigg the Congress and Senate election next year...?
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Trader#6232
Aug 4, 2025 9:19am
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Quoting TraderTero
{quote} No need to be embarrassed. They are just getting what they voted for.
Low taxes closed border tariff deals better for the US than the other country and stocks near all time highs. He is winning and you hate it that makes us happy.
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Trader#8837
Aug 4, 2025 9:41am
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Quoting TraderTero
{quote} No need to be embarrassed. They are just getting what they voted for.
That is why it's embarrassing. When a wing nut like Musk does silly things we can say, yeah he's just being a wing nut and he's doing it on his own but when it is trump( who has no power except what was given him and should be taken away) then its just red faced blithering. He literally lies at the speed of 21 Lies/Day and during his campaigning he was over 50 LPD . Compare that with Bidens 1-3 LPD, most of which were blunders as old Joe was way past it. Kamala was lower than both of those at 1.25 LPD . These are all verifiable facts as their speeches and announcements are all public record. That is a huge difference. Now lets give them all the benefit of the doubt and say 1/2 the lies are actually just mistakes that still means the current President intentionally lies and tries to mislead over 10 times every day. How pathetic is that country when they don't call him out on it?
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Trader#A9DD
Aug 4, 2025 10:52am
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Quoting ocd
{quote} Yep, the US has major issues. But where the US goes, the world goes. I think it's an accountability problem first, greed second, and lastly an intelligence issue. White collar criminals will look at numbers and immediately know that those can be manipulated. I am pretty sure most card carrying members that can prove they're US citizens think the entire political system is rigged by white collar criminals. Greed is a morality issue and since the US has given up on religion, morality is in a freefall state. And when did the US just give up...
Most colleges are bad, they are run by extremists who value indoctrination over education. However, if you do your research there are a decent number of well run colleges still. Unfortunately it’s $150k for the least expensive option for a 4 year degree.
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Trader#5418
Aug 4, 2025 10:55am
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Quoting Ryder
A true leftist. The left always accuse others of doing the same thing they are doing. Hillary is a classic example of this. Trump is not a saint, but one cannot deny his achievements and is fight for what is best for America. Period. I will not respond to this thread again, so save you evil for others.
relax snowflake
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TimmyBTrades
Aug 4, 2025 11:18am
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Revisions in the same direction, but it helped Biden and hurt Trump?

Flood the zone! Tariffs are good for you! The US economy is the hottest in the world!
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c-note
Aug 4, 2025 9:43am
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Quoting TraderTero
{quote} No need to be embarrassed. They are just getting what they voted for.
im embarresed about you
green789
Aug 4, 2025 2:50pm
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I do not think the polls were rigged.The US Fed is just cautious it is a good approach ,Powell first want to see what the impact of Trump tariffs will be on the US Economy and also the world..Trump pushed for lower interest rates but it is best Jerome Powell is hesitant first, want to see were things will go.
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Trader#3270
Aug 4, 2025 8:52am
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Stocks are measurably higher than they were before the jobs report. So either the jobs report was good news or it wasn’t correct. Can’t argue with your chart.
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TraderTero
Aug 4, 2025 11:49am
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Quoting TimmyBTrades
Revisions in the same direction, but it helped Biden and hurt Trump? Flood the zone! Tariffs are good for you! The US economy is the hottest in the world!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...143758821.html
Trader#8837
Aug 4, 2025 10:01am
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Quoting Ryder
Over a long term (say over the past 12 months), the labor number have to level out and be correct. In any given month, the numbers can be distorted either up or down. In the several months leading up to the 2024 election, the number were faked larger to support Kamala. Now these distortions must be corrected to bring the last 12 months into balance. Take away your Trump Derangement Syndrome and admit the truth.
The only thing trump and truth have in common is they both start with TR. It's sad how the trumpanzees follow suit when something doesn't work in their favour it must be a lie. I disagree with you ergo it's not because I know what I am talking about it must be just because I don't like trump, nithing to do with his bullshit track record its just my syndrome.How pathetic?
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LT51
Aug 4, 2025 11:43am
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hilarious
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fopayannick2
Aug 4, 2025 12:25pm
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I don't think so
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Trader#9812
Aug 4, 2025 8:29am
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Thats my Dony boy, good job. Lets go Trump to the end of USA.
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Trader#B5EF
Aug 4, 2025 9:24am
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. Show the evidences. Without evidences it is all BS.
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Trader#A306
Aug 4, 2025 9:44am
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This confirms that the entire U.S. is rigged with corruption, political assassinations and lies. Time to stop the orgy and say No to anything that comes from Trump and any other white house puppet.
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Trader#F98C
Aug 4, 2025 9:50am
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The intelligence of Ralph Wiggum and the temperament of Nelson Muntz all in one package.
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