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  • #48,001
  • Apr 9, 2025 3:42am Apr 9, 2025 3:42am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} why not buying directly an stf instead of 5 x evals? asking because i would like a stf … but still did not… maybe a growth eval ….
i dont have issues passing the evals…. Stf just increases the cost too much…. 50k is the best for me… this year i have passed 80-% evals in first try and rest 20% in 2nd try……

Plus stf doesnot gurantee a payout…
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #48,002
  • Apr 9, 2025 3:48am Apr 9, 2025 3:48am
yes, 50k account eval with EOD and No DLL best suits me.

Even if the fees are slightly higher than normal it is ok.
Intraday only.
  • #48,003
  • Apr 9, 2025 4:05am Apr 9, 2025 4:05am
Quoting navk
yes, 50k account eval with EOD and No DLL best suits me. Even if the fees are slightly higher than normal it is ok.
even with dll i dont have issues passing but i want 1 day pass then 90% chance i’ll pass
I start with 1 mini and get to 1k by then i risk 1k to make 1k higher chance to get even it fails get back to breakeven and start again….. after crossing 2k back to small size to get over the line…
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #48,004
  • Apr 9, 2025 7:03am Apr 9, 2025 7:03am
Does anyone have any experience using Plus500? I have noticed some prop firms are using them as a service provider. I'm interest in their FX side of business.

Prop Firm update for me. Currently have an account with TopStepX & am satisfied at this point. Still trading a private futures account & will continue to do so no matter what becomes of the TopStepX account. I much prefer trading a private account but see the value of using a pro firm to build trading capital to start a private account or to make some $'s for whatever your needs may be. I appreciate if someone would share their views on Plus500 based on your personal experiences or experiences of others that you're familiar with.

Best of trades to everyone.
  • #48,005
  • Apr 9, 2025 7:11am Apr 9, 2025 7:11am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} This volatility will be for the whole week maybe, considering the calendar we have! I am switching to micros. 1 to 3 micros will give me the same ratio than before. Usually a 100+ ticks trade was not that simple neither that quick. Now 100+ ticks is a matter of a quick pullback.
Yes, adjust size based on ADR. I usually use a 20 day ADR, I have adjusted that to 10 to give more weight to recent.
  • #48,006
  • Apr 9, 2025 7:13am Apr 9, 2025 7:13am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} yesterday evening at the tv evening news they were saying “all indices up” in green, markets recover after blah blah blah.. Nobody gives a shit, they know nothing and news are made. Just made. meanwhile…. Nobody notice that despite OIL price lost a shitload opin value in last weeks, we still pay fuel the same cost than when Oil price was around 77/80. When it went up, all gas stations immedately rised . but hey, people only care about what billionaires are doing. pure dogshit!
Yes, gas prices have always drove me insane. They grind down a couple of cents per day, but they will go up 30 cents in 2 hours sometimes. Gas prices are based on the future oil price.
  • #48,007
  • Apr 9, 2025 7:43am Apr 9, 2025 7:43am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i dont have issues passing the evals…. Stf just increases the cost too much…. 50k is the best for me… this year i have passed 80-% evals in first try and rest 20% in 2nd try…… Plus stf doesnot gurantee a payout…
yes that makes sense indeed
will check rules on tradeify evaluations
I just want 2 accounts on 2 different props and summing apex + tradeify looks a good combo atm x me.

the initial v
cost of a sts block me btw.
is the growth really no activation fee?
or is there a gosth fee somewhere?
just trying to monetize the best I can

with the 500$ of an stf I could buy 3 evals.. go slowly, 1/2 k x day and on may go for payouts
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,008
  • Apr 9, 2025 7:44am Apr 9, 2025 7:44am
Quoting navk
yes, 50k account eval with EOD and No DLL best suits me. Even if the fees are slightly higher than normal it is ok.
yes the EOD is much better. i hate Apex thing with trailing intraday !
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,009
  • Apr 9, 2025 7:49am Apr 9, 2025 7:49am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, gas prices have always drove me insane. They grind down a couple of cents per day, but they will go up 30 cents in 2 hours sometimes. Gas prices are based on the future oil price.
yes natural gas is not a simple one to trade x me.
anyway I meant “fuel stations” but wrote gas stations.
The place where you go with car for the gasoline
Fuel here in italy is a lot expensive. We pay lot of tax on that.
and the most disturbing thing is that all tax are applied in % so when price goes up it burns out. What a complete non sense…
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,010
  • Edited 8:22am Apr 9, 2025 8:09am | Edited 8:22am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} yes the EOD is much better. i hate Apex thing with trailing intraday !
long ago i passed intraday plan with tradeify.

After that, i never passed.

I was doing like this :

300 per day on intraday 50k account.

Patiently traded and met 3k target.

Thereafter in funded, some 4 to 5 days, i met my daily target. Then gone.

This intraday plan needs to be approached with different mindset.

Now, my spouse is doing with tradeify 50k account intraday. Let me see how it works out.
Intraday only.
  • #48,011
  • Apr 9, 2025 8:44am Apr 9, 2025 8:44am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} yes natural gas is not a simple one to trade x me. anyway I meant “fuel stations” but wrote gas stations. The place where you go with car for the gasoline Fuel here in italy is a lot expensive. We pay lot of tax on that. and the most disturbing thing is that all tax are applied in % so when price goes up it burns out. What a complete non sense…
Oh yes, I am speaking of the stations where I fill up my car as well.
  • #48,012
  • Apr 9, 2025 8:57am Apr 9, 2025 8:57am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} yes that makes sense indeed will check rules on tradeify evaluations I just want 2 accounts on 2 different props and summing apex + tradeify looks a good combo atm x me. the initial v cost of a sts block me btw. is the growth really no activation fee? or is there a gosth fee somewhere? just trying to monetize the best I can with the 500$ of an stf I could buy 3 evals.. go slowly, 1/2 k x day and on may go for payouts
Growth is the best.... no activation fees.......
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #48,013
  • Apr 9, 2025 9:35am Apr 9, 2025 9:35am
Tradeify does not want my money
refused both bank card and pre paid card
LOL
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,014
  • Apr 9, 2025 9:37am Apr 9, 2025 9:37am
will wait for an Apex offer and buy accounts on them.
already restored an evaluation for 40$ up 2,5k.
can pass in 1 day but I get it slow. Have no hurry!
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,015
  • Apr 9, 2025 9:47am Apr 9, 2025 9:47am
Quoting _BBKing_
will wait for an Apex offer and buy accounts on them. already restored an evaluation for 40$ up 2,5k. can pass in 1 day but I get it slow. Have no hurry!
Apex promotion : 16.7

Code : TBM

Having said, even if i pass on yolo method, I will loose out on funded stage.

So, I will not buy eval with Apex until they make drawdown rules attractive
Intraday only.
  • #48,016
  • Apr 9, 2025 9:50am Apr 9, 2025 9:50am
Quoting _BBKing_
will wait for an Apex offer and buy accounts on them. already restored an evaluation for 40$ up 2,5k. can pass in 1 day but I get it slow. Have no hurry!
Try bluguardian instead. Or Topstep
Intraday only.
  • #48,017
  • Apr 9, 2025 10:02am Apr 9, 2025 10:02am
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  • #48,018
  • Apr 9, 2025 10:08am Apr 9, 2025 10:08am
Quoting navk
{quote} Apex promotion : 16.7 Code : TBM Having said, even if i pass on yolo method, I will loose out on funded stage. So, I will not buy eval with Apex until they make drawdown rules attractive
on funded account drawdown stops @safety net level
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,019
  • Apr 9, 2025 10:28am Apr 9, 2025 10:28am
Quoting navk
{quote} Try bluguardian instead. Or Topstep
topstep will probably be next.
atm got another apex eval.
now I have 2x150k.
Spent 70$ instead of planned 300$+

will treat them as my own live account and copy trades on each using tradesyncer.
already got 1st trade for some 150$ on each.

done for the day
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #48,020
  • Apr 9, 2025 10:39am Apr 9, 2025 10:39am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} topstep will probably be next. atm got another apex eval. now I have 2x150k. Spent 70$ instead of planned 300$+ will treat them as my own live account and copy trades on each using tradesyncer. already got 1st trade for some 150$ on each. done for the day
I suggest BG as well.......$50 on promo no activation fee....trading live sim now...run you $150 to pull $4500.
Obvioulsy, there are 4-5 very reputable ones I would rank above this, but for $150 for 3......can't beat it.
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