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  • #3,541
  • Feb 10, 2025 11:26am Feb 10, 2025 11:26am
Quoting heispark
I purchased a Daytraders.com account instead of Topstep's. It charges one time fee of $57 (%70 discounted using a promo code) with additional activation fee of $130 once passing the eval. Daytraders.com is a new kid on the block which was founded by former partners and employees of Apex. Although they limit the max payout to $75,000 per user at the moment, it's dirt cheap anyway (perhaps the cheapest in this industry) and no 10% profit share. Good for beginners like me. Let me give a try from next Monday. It will be fun. {image} {image}
It's first day of trading using daytraders.com and its server is down (actually it's a Rithmic issue). I have a position stuck in the middle... Not very good start.
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  • #3,542
  • Feb 12, 2025 4:10am Feb 12, 2025 4:10am
CFD vs. Futures

IC Market CFD Nat Gas chart vs. Tradingview Futures chart:

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CFD is not real market and that's why U.S. gov banned it.
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  • #3,543
  • Feb 12, 2025 10:32am Feb 12, 2025 10:32am
DOM Imbalance

ChatGPT says:
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From early pre-market session today, nat gas has a big bid/ask volume imbalance. Actually, we had relatively quite bigger bidders for days.... Interesting.
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  • #3,544
  • Feb 12, 2025 10:39am Feb 12, 2025 10:39am
Quoting heispark
...By the way, I am back to MT4. Quantower didn't meet my demand quite well. More specifically, longer period indicators didn't render properly on 1H and higher time frames due to the limitation of Futures charting. Perhaps I am already too much addicted to MT4.....
I finally said goodbye to Metatrader platforms. Charting is fully replaced by Quantower. CFD charting in MT4/5 is not accurate. Glad I finally ditched this a million years old platform.
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  • #3,545
  • Feb 14, 2025 5:12am Feb 14, 2025 5:12am
Quoting heispark
{quote} It's first day of trading using daytraders.com and its server is down (actually it's a Rithmic issue). I have a position stuck in the middle... Not very good start. {image}
First day I lost $600 and then I make $100 each day. It will take a million years before I pass the eval. Fortunately, daytraders.com charges one time fee. That's great for slow easy going traders like me.
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I made the following trade right before. It's early pre-market session and it started gathering some volatility. Anyway, quick scalping using VWAP and 50 EMAs.
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First day big loss was silly one. I was testing DOM imbalance. My founding is DOM imbalance doesn't tell you the price direction. It may work as a choppy condition filter but still not sure about that. Scalping around VWAP is easier. Rediscovering the value of VWAP......
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  • #3,546
  • Feb 14, 2025 8:42am Feb 14, 2025 8:42am
Quoting heispark
{quote} First day I lost $600 and then I make $100 each day. It will take a million years before I pass the eval. Fortunately, daytraders.com charges one time fee. That's great for slow easy going traders like me. {image} I made the following trade right before. It's early pre-market session and it started gathering some volatility. Anyway, quick scalping using VWAP and 50 EMAs.{image} First day big loss was silly one. I was testing DOM imbalance. My founding is DOM imbalance doesn't tell you the price direction. It may work as a choppy...
Another VWAP scalping. Nearly recovered the loss.
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  • #3,547
  • Feb 14, 2025 9:05am Feb 14, 2025 9:05am
Although I don't follow and take any signal service, some free live signal streamings are interesting indeed. Coincidentally, their entries are similar to mine. It's just for fun and never take it seriously as you know.

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  • #3,548
  • Feb 14, 2025 9:24am Feb 14, 2025 9:24am
Quoting heispark
{quote} After he lost $450 during his live session yesterday he decided to limit his live videos only for members. Unlike Patrick, I think he is not really honest person. {image}
He almost always lose on his live streaming and now he insists he have made $80K from Apex. What a hilarious! Such a liar.... That money must be given by Apex for advertisement.
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  • #3,549
  • Edited 6:24pm Feb 14, 2025 10:31am | Edited 6:24pm
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Patick doesn't do well with Live funded accounts for some reason.... He's most happy when he trades using SIM accounts. Also he makes most from Apex especially. When regulation comes in finally, we would be mostly pushed into live accounts and the max number of account will be very limited. CME group is also watching closely a free ride of prop firms. The climate will be changed dramatically sooner or later.

The following video is one stupid gambling trade (adding to losers) he made recently which turned in losing several accounts. (1:11:03)
https://www.youtube.com/live/1Qp-Mjj...Kzy5yoi&t=4263
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  • #3,550
  • Feb 14, 2025 12:57pm Feb 14, 2025 12:57pm
Topstep becomes picky... And Alpine Trader got the email too.....

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  • #3,551
  • Feb 16, 2025 3:57am Feb 16, 2025 3:57am
Quoting heispark
{image} Patick doesn't do well with Live funded accounts for some reason.... He's most happy when he trades using SIM accounts. Also he makes most from Apex especially. When regulation comes in finally, we would be mostly pushed into live accounts and the max number of account will be very limited. CME group is also watching closely a free ride of prop firms. The climate will be changed dramatically sooner or later. The following video is one stupid gambling trade (adding to losers) he made recently which turned in losing several accounts. (1:11:03)...
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I am doubt if he can make money consistently with real money with real market......
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  • #3,552
  • Feb 17, 2025 7:46am Feb 17, 2025 7:46am
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Obviously, prop firm industry needs a regulation, and it's urgent.....
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  • #3,553
  • Feb 17, 2025 8:41am Feb 17, 2025 8:41am
Another VWAP scalping. Except the first big loss, I haven't had any loss so far....
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The following stat is not yet updated reflecting today's trading.
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  • #3,554
  • Feb 18, 2025 8:50am Feb 18, 2025 8:50am
Unlike AMP Futures' free version of Quantower, Daytraders' version allows connections from other brokers and copy trading between multiple Rithmic logins. That means you have a complete All-In-One license for free which otherwise costs you $1590 for life time. (If you only want copy trading feature, you may purchase Advanced feature license which is still $650 for life time. As far as I know, only Quantower supports multiple Rithmic logins at time time.)
As Daytraders frequently provides 70% discount, in theory, you can use full version of Quantower for as low as one time fee of $33 (25K account) unless you blow your account. That's quite a super cost effective deal especially when you want to copy trade between multiple prop firms.
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  • #3,555
  • Feb 18, 2025 5:33pm Feb 18, 2025 5:33pm
I have purchased 4 more eval accounts at 80% discounted price. 5 is max. When I made the purchase I made a mistake and selected a wrong platform. As a result, I requested to cancel my purchase and had to do it again. Fortunately, they agreed to cancel my previous purchase. Their system is not very intuitive and they have too many account types... Anyway, it will be more exciting. I will be using Quantower's trade copier from now on.

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  • #3,556
  • Feb 19, 2025 5:53am Feb 19, 2025 5:53am
VWAP scalping looks the easiest. I missed this opportunity. The problem is such a good easy opportunity often comes 2-4 hours before the regular market open. Sometimes I miss it as a result. I think I wouldn't have a better opportunity today anymore. When price moves far away from VWAP, price movement stability and momentum decrease and as a result, the overall risk increases significantly.
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  • #3,557
  • Feb 19, 2025 5:59am Feb 19, 2025 5:59am
Winter is already over in the futures market. Do not chases the market. That's the best way to blow your account especially in nat gas trading.
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  • #3,558
  • Edited 7:03am Feb 21, 2025 6:45am | Edited 7:03am
First copy trading using Quantower. Another quick VWAP scalping with about 10 ticks. Made it quick due to 200 and 50 EMAs on 5M and 15M charts, which are major resistances. I had no trading for last two days due to high volatility.

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  • #3,559
  • Feb 22, 2025 6:44am Feb 22, 2025 6:44am
Quoting heispark
First copy trading using Quantower. Another quick VWAP scalping with about 10 ticks. Made it quick due to 200 and 50 EMAs on 5M and 15M charts, which are major resistances. I had no trading for last two days due to high volatility. {image} {image}
It will take a million years before I can pass this eval. I don't want to force myself but definitely, I need some big wins....
Daytraders.com is very similar to Apex. This is no wonder because they are former co-founder and employees of Apex. Behavioral pattern (such as 80% discount joke) is also similar. Daytraders and Apex have a legal battle now for the ownership of the operating software. At this time, Daytraders system has some flaws or bugs here and there and their documentation is relatively weak. For example, I have 4 canceled accounts but they are still in my account list.
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  • #3,560
  • Feb 25, 2025 5:27pm Feb 25, 2025 5:27pm
Damn... I was caught by two consecutive choppy days and had to suffer another set back. DOM imbalance as a choppy indicator didn't work as I expected. Nothing worse than choppy conditions to breakout day traders....

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