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  • #1,901
  • Nov 11, 2023 12:39pm Nov 11, 2023 12:39pm
A lot of people ask me why I don't have students following me.
The answer is: I'm a greedy bastard

I've spent thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars on what I have now. And I don't want to teach anyone for free. And I don't even want to teach for money either, because it just doesn't make any sense.
I have servers, I have GPU, neural networks. I'm doing research that you've never even dreamed of. I know more than all of you put together.
And please tell me why and for what I will share this level of knowledge with strangers on the forum?

All I have for you: follow me on my discord trading room. Who knows, may be you will change your status from average degen gambler for trader haha
Observer effect
  • #1,902
  • Nov 11, 2023 12:43pm Nov 11, 2023 12:43pm
Quoting ryuryu
A lot of people ask me why I don't have students following me. The answer is: I'm a greedy bastard I've spent thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars on what I have now. And I don't want to teach anyone for free. And I don't even want to teach for money either, because it just doesn't make any sense. I have servers, I have GPU, neural networks. I'm doing research that you've never even dreamed of. I know more than all of you put together. And please tell me why and for what I will share this level of knowledge with...
The answer is: I'm a greedy bastard
  • #1,903
  • Nov 11, 2023 1:10pm Nov 11, 2023 1:10pm
Quoting ryuryu
A lot of people ask me why I don't have students following me. The answer is: I'm a greedy bastard I've spent thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars on what I have now. And I don't want to teach anyone for free. And I don't even want to teach for money either, because it just doesn't make any sense. I have servers, I have GPU, neural networks. I'm doing research that you've never even dreamed of. I know more than all of you put together. And please tell me why and for what I will share this level of knowledge with...
Arrogance at its PEAK.
  • #1,904
  • Nov 11, 2023 4:11pm Nov 11, 2023 4:11pm
Quoting ryuryu
A lot of people ask me why I don't have students following me. The answer is: I'm a greedy bastard I've spent thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars on what I have now. And I don't want to teach anyone for free. And I don't even want to teach for money either, because it just doesn't make any sense. I have servers, I have GPU, neural networks. I'm doing research that you've never even dreamed of. I know more than all of you put together. And please tell me why and for what I will share this level of knowledge with...

but would also stupid to follow you until you did necessary homework.

nobody will know if you make win or just talk big before someone see real account.
how many millions did you win already, or follow you would be useless?
how many decades you are in good consistent win, or follow you is useless.
how big account size you trade, i hope 7 figure account minimum or follow you is useless.

so maybe you are good, maybe you are worst trader, nobody knows. so follow someone , who did not show in real account personal that he earned very big over long time in thousand of trades is most stupid to do.
so of course useless when you offer before you are ready and have established such a basic and total useless to follow you until you are a good proven trader.

but did you grow up and grow to a good trader in last years, some years ago i did see you still wrote beginner questions? so maybe you write this as joke or ?
  • #1,905
  • Nov 11, 2023 5:03pm Nov 11, 2023 5:03pm
nope no arrogance just pure talent. I been following Ryu since i became a member here.
You have an IQ lower than 90 if you interact with this user.
  • #1,906
  • Nov 12, 2023 5:43am Nov 12, 2023 5:43am
@ryuryu,post 1,897 . Thats a interesting post care to go into why a candle is 'fake' i would like to know your view on it please
  • #1,907
  • Nov 18, 2023 3:18am Nov 18, 2023 3:18am
Quoting nozzer
@ryuryu,post 1,897 . Thats a interesting post care to go into why a candle is 'fake' i would like to know your view on it please
What candle is? Candle is an agreement, that for example within 1 hour interval first trade will be marked as Open, last trade as Close, highest vale as High ans Lowest as Low.

So if there will be no volatility at all and the orderbook will be almost empty then you can see good big candle.
Observer effect
  • #1,908
  • Jan 7, 2024 4:14pm Jan 7, 2024 4:14pm
2024 huh

still not +3% daily?

Then listen to me.

The first chapter in 2024 named as: what STOPS are

L E A RN THE F U C I N B A S I C S first
STOP thinking you are not like others, stop that bullshit about "trading mood" and "I feel the market". It don't care about your idiotic dreams.
You are against the smartest, fastest and richest guys. Think about it
And LEARN MATH! If you want to survive - LEARN THE MATH!

The task for you: If you have 10% stop and it will trigger every day how many days you need to get your deposit to about a zero?
p.s. if you don't know the answer already YOU ARE NOT A TRADER
Observer effect
  • #1,909
  • Jan 23, 2024 10:39am Jan 23, 2024 10:39am
Dear Ryuryu and RickM,

I have been following you for at least the past 2 years and I am grateful and thankful for sharing your knowledge with us selflessly. I value your contribution greatly.

I am doing my best to understand the markets and to find a profitable way of trading. But without a mentor by my side I find it quite difficult.

I have been looking at market and limit orders in regards to the price for a few months now (I have made my own charts), but without major progress.

Now I am faced with a dilemma: Should I continue in searching and trying to find a missing piece (which may never happen) or should I put this part of my life behind and start with some different projects? My main question is: How can I determine if this profession is for me?

I know, you can not answer this question for me, but maybe you have some wisdom and advice for this particular situation.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

Best regards.
  • #1,910
  • Jan 23, 2024 7:12pm Jan 23, 2024 7:12pm
Quoting Mihajlou
Dear Ryuryu and RickM, I have been following you for at least the past 2 years and I am grateful and thankful for sharing your knowledge with us selflessly. I value your contribution greatly. I am doing my best to understand the markets and to find a profitable way of trading. But without a mentor by my side I find it quite difficult. I have been looking at market and limit orders in regards to the price for a few months now (I have made my own charts), but without major progress. Now I am faced with a dilemma: Should I continue in searching and...
Hi Mihajlou

Can I ask if you really enjoy trading with a passion regardless of profits, or are you just after a dollar.

Also what markets do you trade, and what platform and tools do you use when trading.

Cheers Rick
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #1,911
  • Jan 23, 2024 10:57pm Jan 23, 2024 10:57pm
Currently I am not trading with real money. I am just doing backtest and paper trading.

I do like trading, and I would like to be a good at it (Money will come automatically).

My goal is:
Don't go bankrupt.
Don't lose capital.
Execute all trading rules without hesitation and flawlessly.

I am looking at crypto market. I am gathering data (via Bybit) into txt data and analyse them in excel.
Data: Executed market orders + what was the situation at that time in regards to limit orders.
  • #1,912
  • Edited 7:36am Jan 24, 2024 6:43am | Edited 7:36am
Quoting Mihajlou
Currently I am not trading with real money. I am just doing backtest and paper trading. I do like trading, and I would like to be a good at it (Money will come automatically). My goal is: Don't go bankrupt. Don't lose capital. Execute all trading rules without hesitation and flawlessly. I am looking at crypto market. I am gathering data (via Bybit) into txt data and analyse them in excel. Data: Executed market orders + what was the situation at that time in regards to limit orders.
Paper Trading is an excellent way of establishing a trading edge, don't let anyone give you some bullshit excuse where you need to feel emotions to be able to trade.

The issue you have with studying Executed Market Orders / Limit Order book situation is every market has its own rules. For example I trade NQ Futures a lot and in this market, HFT Algorithms actually trade against the rules. Here if the Order book is stacked with Sellers - HFT Algo's Buy.
On the Oil Futures Market, if the Order book is stacked with Sellers, HFT Algorithm's will also Sell.


What the Fuck?

That's the issue studying the Order Book - Its only valid for that particular market and your skillsets are not transferable to other markets.

What you are trading against in Futures & Crypto is these Algorithm's that are coded to trade generally like this example. They place a Buy & Sell order around the spread, then wait for one of these orders to be executed. If the order above price is executed, they start to load the book with Buy orders quicker than any other market trader / Algorithm program can copy because they are given private access directly inside the execution program.

For a fee
We are screwed - well not quite.

At least we know what to look for now - extremely fast Market Orders.

Automate or Die

Unfortunately

Therefore, what are you waiting for?

PS. If you are going to study the Order Book, you need at least a basic level of automation. Therefore you need to define the process on how you will achieve some level of automation before you can be profitable trading the Order book. Get the process right and become part of the Algorithm Hunters.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #1,913
  • Jan 25, 2024 4:59am Jan 25, 2024 4:59am
Quoting Mihajlou
Dear Ryuryu and RickM, I have been following you for at least the past 2 years and I am grateful and thankful for sharing your knowledge with us selflessly. I value your contribution greatly. I am doing my best to understand the markets and to find a profitable way of trading. But without a mentor by my side I find it quite difficult. I have been looking at market and limit orders in regards to the price for a few months now (I have made my own charts), but without major progress. Now I am faced with a dilemma: Should I continue in searching and...
It is hard to determine is trading is good for you or not. As I understand you are checking the orderbook. But I can say that I failed myself using it in trading same as stops. As for me orderbook is easy to spoof and create fake data. Same for stops: there are no math under that. So I use orderbook data only for exit purpose and never use it for entry. In fact you can enter the market at random place in random time and it doesn't matter.

I'm using only volume, distance and volume delta in my trading. And price of course. I don't use timeframes, open and close values. Only highs and lows and volume.
So if you want to be a trader you should understand how market works. Remember that only market orders move the price. And stops since they are always market orders too. In fact only that knowledge will let you win this game. Also you should forget all the bullshit you have ever read about support, resistance, bulls, bears, trading mood and other fairy tales
Observer effect
  • #1,914
  • Apr 1, 2024 2:32pm Apr 1, 2024 2:32pm
Using different indicators and time frames allows you to gain insight into different aspects of the market and make informed decisions. Setting a daily profit target helps you navigate and manage risk. It is also valuable that you share your knowledge and experience with other traders on the forum. Your approach to cryptocurrency trading also seems reasonable given its features. I wish you success and prosperity in your trading!
  • #1,915
  • May 3, 2024 5:29am May 3, 2024 5:29am
I'm terribly sorry, but your post is purest bullshit
Quoting Arthurn23
Using different indicators and time frames allows you to gain insight into different aspects of the market and make informed decisions.
There are no timeframes. Timeframe is fake that exist only in your head. it make no sense at all to compare the "candle" with 2 trades worth 100$ and next "candle" with 100m$ inside. So the indicators are also useless in this case too. Because who cares what average price (price? really?) was for those 2 "candles"?

Quoting Arthurn23
Setting a daily profit target helps you navigate and manage risk.
This also make no sense. Market don't care what daily profit you want. If there are a lot of trades then you can earn. If there are no - even if you set your daily profit target it will be not achievable.
Quoting Arthurn23
I wish you success and prosperity in your trading!
I wish you the same too. But to achieve the success in trading first you have to forget all the bullshit you have ever read, then learn math. Clear head and math - that is all you need my friend.
Observer effect
  • #1,916
  • May 3, 2024 7:46am May 3, 2024 7:46am
who really cares about Ryuryu opinions on trawing World Affaurs ?
  • #1,917
  • May 3, 2024 8:12am May 3, 2024 8:12am
Quoting parisboy
who really cares about Ryuryu opinions on trawing World Affaurs ?

Observer effect
  • #1,918
  • Jul 10, 2024 8:23am Jul 10, 2024 8:23am
Hi

How to Join the Discard Trading Room the above link is expired
Trade what's happening… Not what you think is gonna happen.
  • #1,919
  • Nov 25, 2024 10:42am Nov 25, 2024 10:42am
Quoting ryuryu
Hi! My name is Ryan. Welcome to my interactive trading journal! I'm trading forex and crypto for a while. Have created several custom indicators and EAs. In most cases I'm trading London and NY sessions on forex, and NY+ on crypto. Timeframes are: 1m, 15m, 1h, 4, 6h and 12h. Indicators used: 1. Moving average. This is great indicator. I'm using 8 low, 8 high, 50 / 100 / 200 EMAs on every timeframe. 2. Stochastic. Great to find exits. You can use RSI if you don't like Stoch. I'm using Stoch because it has 2 lines and...
ˇHola, Amigo! Thanks for your signals. Use them for a year, ˇthe results are great!!!
  • #1,920
  • Edited Dec 2, 2024 3:56pm Dec 1, 2024 6:25pm | Edited Dec 2, 2024 3:56pm
Quoting kk100
Think thank, some easy way to start trading with delta. image below is one proposal. Soon I will take these kind of entries, the ask x bid and delta,volume gives excellent confirmations. the ema is only for ring bells. Absolutely will join delta volume forex gang. My aim is just add couple trades more per day. Good news is if you ask from CD about order book kind of stuff. {image}
Hi kk100, RickM, Ryuryu and everyone else. Sorry to reach out like this but I would like to ask you a few questions directly regarding DoM, order book, delta vol and vols. I trade using mt4 and wanted to know what platforms you use to analyze such data. I trade xau/usd and some currency pairs in mt4. I read sierra and jigsaw are good. I see there are some indicators for mt4 e.g. cluster delta, fxssi with similar info but mostly stale data. I am not a coder but desire the approach you guys are taking as the proof is in the pudding. Are there any quickly updated indicators or EA's feeds with Dom data for mt4. What do you suggest regarding my trading in mt4. Appreciated.
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