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  • #42,441
  • Sep 24, 2024 2:27am Sep 24, 2024 2:27am
Update from Darrel in Apex
https://support.atf.com/hc/en-us/art...September-2024

Seems that Discord will go on being closed for the time being (4:45)
  • #42,442
  • Sep 24, 2024 2:50am Sep 24, 2024 2:50am
Quoting Capablanca
Update from Darrel in Apex https://support.atf.com/hc/en-us/art...September-2024 Seems that Discord will go on being closed for the time being (4:45)
Why Apex closed its Discord ? Too many complaints all days or what ? They do not payout to many of their traders, is that the reason ?
  • #42,443
  • Sep 24, 2024 2:58am Sep 24, 2024 2:58am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Why Apex closed its Discord ? Too many complaints all days or what ? They do not payout to many of their traders, is that the reason ?
When they started to have troubles with payouts delays and systems freezes Discord was on fire with thousands of messages. That was impossible to manage, even with slow mode. If they will reopen it one day they need to have a big support team there.
  • #42,444
  • Sep 24, 2024 2:59am Sep 24, 2024 2:59am
So, apparently people were taking advantage from T's in Apex simulation
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  • #42,445
  • Sep 24, 2024 3:14am Sep 24, 2024 3:14am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} is static not a fixed dollar value daily/over all dd?
I haven't replied last night because I thought my brain was already dead asleep but still don't see the relation after a good night rest.
  • #42,446
  • Edited 3:51am Sep 24, 2024 3:23am | Edited 3:51am
Quoting Capablanca
So, apparently people were taking advantage from T's in Apex simulation {image}
Do not really understand that. So they are saying the Futures market for one of the most liquid contracts on earth like the 10 year T-Note has been wrong priced ???
Or are they complaining that Rithmic could not provide proper realtime quotes for the most liquid futures contracts, really ? I did not hear of any problems on that.

Apex also says that SOME TRADERS did exploit this mispricing, especially those ones who requested large 6-digits payouts, we heard yesterday from my first youtube video I posted yesterday. I do not believe this. That one is doing all the calculations between spot and futures market and then do arbitrage for 1 tick maybe mispricing in the futures quote, this is dogshit. They take this just as an excuse that at this time some traders had a position opened in those interest rate futures markets, to not payout anything. This is outright fraud and nothing else. It seems like APEX are asking market makers how on earth they had a successful trader in their own books.
  • #42,447
  • Sep 24, 2024 3:54am Sep 24, 2024 3:54am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I haven't replied last night because I thought my brain was already dead asleep but still don't see the relation after a good night rest.
% balance equity = daily balance/equity * % = dd
% balance = daily balance * % = dd
Static = daily balance - fixed value (Lets use 5k on 100k as example.)

If balance is 102,000 at start of day, your balance/equity cannot go below 97000. = 5k static
If balance is 102,000 at start of day your balance/equity cannot go below 96900 = 5% balance dd

Am I wrong on what static DD is ?
  • #42,448
  • Sep 24, 2024 4:45am Sep 24, 2024 4:45am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Do not really understand that. So they are saying the Futures market for one of the most liquid contracts on earth like the 10 year T-Note has been wrong priced ??? Or are they complaining that Rithmic could not provide proper realtime quotes for the most liquid futures contracts, really ? I did not hear of any problems on that. Apex also says that SOME TRADERS did exploit this mispricing, especially those ones who requested large 6-digits payouts, we heard yesterday from my first youtube video I posted yesterday. I do not believe this....
so many people use latency arbitrage to not trade (it is used in so many in props, you will not believe it .. why do you think that many bad traders are in prop??, because there works a lot of bullshit that is not working in real trading), just cheat around against the broker. its inside any broker rules that latency arbitrage is never aloud, because any broker you destroy by this , because you get prices that are not there and sure wins.

i talked a day with some prop owner on a forex fair, and they was so proud they had some winners inside to present for marketing and the funny part was he did say, that near all winners he could present was doing latency arbitrage, but they had to accept this to even present some winners or would be near no winner at all they could show for marketing (this was some years ago). so many try this cheat even in real brokerage ... many bad reviews often come by try to cheat like this and complain later by get not paid (without any success of course).
  • #42,449
  • Edited 5:46am Sep 24, 2024 5:31am | Edited 5:46am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Not taking sides here but if I was going to receive a 1.8 mil payout I would also have an empty bank account, probably opened after speaking to a fiscal lawyer, and the bank would be other than the one I use to buy potatoes, chicken and pay my water bill. This is not like receiving my astonishing 1.8K payouts.
Yes, that is the benefit of the doubt. However, throughout his trading journey, many of his posts have been successfully challenged by netizens, and he hasn’t succeeded in his math either. It doesn’t need to be complicated to take on a double job as an influencer. Well, it's great for him if he can really profit 1M USD; it's the ultimate dream of many traders.

1.8k payout a month is a very good number here on Indonesia . Already able to live comfortably, above 98% of the population.
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  • #42,450
  • Sep 24, 2024 5:41am Sep 24, 2024 5:41am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I never believed he could get 1.8 million USD. There’s no evidence so far. He posted his bank statement on Twitter, but I think it’s just fraud. His bank account was empty before. A Con Artist. But for the excitement of the influencer world, OK. Source: https://x.com/_traderkane/status/183...C5NFUsX_A&s=19 {image}
thats often the problem with prop account traders and real stories vs fake stories (very hard to see what is real and what is fake, because they cant provide any real trading account evidence of a trustful broker).
they maybe fake win payments ....
they maybe get a contract with prop company and get marketing payments for look like have big wins and then use this as influencer (never got money but the fame)
they maybe get some money paid for telling they got very big money paid and showed on webpages , but never happened in real...

prop need to feed the machine with stories of winners to convince other to pay for new rounds, same time this winner should not cost a lot. so use this influencer or people who want to be influencer or people who want to be famous.... get for cheap so marketing. just normal standard way of business.
  • #42,451
  • Sep 24, 2024 6:52am Sep 24, 2024 6:52am
Quoting genuine007
Please someone can confirm me that whether Darwinex brings Futures Feed in MT4 or not?? Earlier back in the time I watched some article in which they were talking about bringing futures feed as well in MT4.
MT5 only, just like any futures broker offering Meta....no MT4 exists for futures.
  • #42,452
  • Sep 24, 2024 6:58am Sep 24, 2024 6:58am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Why Apex closed its Discord ? Too many complaints all days or what ? They do not payout to many of their traders, is that the reason ?
TBH, Discord is the worst thing any firm can offer. It gets filled with spam from competitors, affiliates, the "I can pass for you" crowd, etc, etc.....and have probably a ton of complaints , most of which have another side to the story (which of course, we never hear about).
Once again, this thread is THE SOURCE. Period. I have been paid by Apex, multiple others have been paid in here. To date, no denied payouts, no video interview requests.
Watching all this bullshit on YouTube is exactly like the half of the USA watching mainstream media and having no actual clue what is really going on.
Example: Kamala just got endorsed by some make believe police support group. Of course, it's in response to Trump support from FOP. The new organization has 24 members and was just formed 2 months ago.....half the country will be like see, look, the police support her. Yeah, OK.
You cannot listen to people with an agenda or bias.
  • #42,453
  • Sep 24, 2024 7:05am Sep 24, 2024 7:05am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Do not really understand that. So they are saying the Futures market for one of the most liquid contracts on earth like the 10 year T-Note has been wrong priced ??? Or are they complaining that Rithmic could not provide proper realtime quotes for the most liquid futures contracts, really ? I did not hear of any problems on that. Apex also says that SOME TRADERS did exploit this mispricing, especially those ones who requested large 6-digits payouts, we heard yesterday from my first youtube video I posted yesterday. I do not believe this....
Then don't use them.....enough already. When you have FIRST HAND experience with Apex......please do let us know.
  • #42,454
  • Edited 8:26am Sep 24, 2024 7:06am | Edited 8:26am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} but how you are successful in beating their highest watermark trailling drawdown, it is very hard to do
Practise, plan and execution..... Failed so many challenges and Fundedaccounts to get to this point.... Learn from mistakes and improve.... Thats how you keep yourself Profitable in ever changing Trading GAME
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  • #42,455
  • Sep 24, 2024 7:12am Sep 24, 2024 7:12am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Its the best time to milk Apex.... now the payout is happening pretty faster......Soon i 'll be moving back to APEX YOLO..... Just need some money for it... Darn MYfundedfutures payout taking longer(I mean getting to a payout )
Yes, will verify the payout on the next request. Today add 1 more $50k.
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If Apex extend the $85 lifetime fee I will get more.
  • #42,456
  • Edited 7:59am Sep 24, 2024 7:44am | Edited 7:59am
As previously disclosed, I am pure manual trader, no EAs, I push buttons all day. This corelation is strange. I know there is no way for anyone to see and/or copy my trades, but damn......

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  • #42,457
  • Sep 24, 2024 7:50am Sep 24, 2024 7:50am
Quoting pipmaster77
As previously disclosed, I am pure manual trader, no EAs, I push buttons all day. This corelation is strange. I know there is no way for anyone to see and/or copy my trades, but damn...... {image}
It is P&L not trades So two traders can have same P&L. You might have traded 2 times and other might have 1000 times as long as P&L matches it is correlated irrespective of trades size or instrument.
  • #42,458
  • Sep 24, 2024 7:57am Sep 24, 2024 7:57am
Quoting sampat
{quote} It is P&L not trades So two traders can have same P&L. You might have traded 2 times and other might have 1000 times as long as P&L matches it is correlated irrespective of trades size or instrument.
Anyway, it's a dam coincidence that P&L is a copy. Weird.
  • #42,459
  • Sep 24, 2024 7:59am Sep 24, 2024 7:59am
Guys, is microscalping allowed to pass the MFF evaluation?
  • #42,460
  • Sep 24, 2024 7:59am Sep 24, 2024 7:59am
Quoting pipmaster77
As previously disclosed, I am pure manual trader, no EAs, I push buttons all day. This corelation is strange. I know there is no way for anyone to see and/or copy my trades, but damn...... {image}

So, did some research, JOQE is not participating due to being corelated above 0.95 with someone else. The other Darwin corelated at 0.91 with me is not participating as his score is below 75.....not clear on how that can be when my score is 82 this month.
There is always something.........with Darwin I don't need to worry about rules, trailing DD, denied payouts, etc.......but have to watch corelation.
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