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  • #42,421
  • Sep 23, 2024 1:47pm Sep 23, 2024 1:47pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Thanks for posting a video from some random nobody on the internet. So what you're saying is APEX is bad so I should use this guy's affiliate link to Tradeify? That definitely makes sense especially since Tradeify has 25 reviews on TrustPilot There's always more to the story which we rarely get from Youtube affiliate pimps {image}
No you should never use any links you highlightened and do not trade at APEX too I would say. You get banned sooner or later after some payouts for sure. I was demonstrating how they tricked very profitable traders. And even the most successful ones like Trader Kane with $2 million payouts overall on APEX are banned forever as their funded accounts are frozen permanently after the payout and they cannot continue to trade at Apex anymore. Trade only your personal broker accounts is my advice to anyone. You can use prop firms for some short term success to get some capital, but that's it. If you need to hedge trade every position at a prop, that is a different story, as can make some guaranteed income, but for any long term success you should focus on a profitable trading strategy suitable for your personality.
  • #42,422
  • Sep 23, 2024 1:51pm Sep 23, 2024 1:51pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} No you should never use any links you highlightened and do not trade at APEX too I would say. You get banned sooner or later after some payouts for sure. I was demonstrating how they tricked very profitable traders. And even the most successful ones like Trader Kane with $2 million payouts overall on APEX are banned forever as their funded accounts are frozen and they cannot continue to trade. Trade only your personal broker accounts is my advice to anyone. You can use prop firms for some short term success to get some capital, but that's...
I wouldn't give two shits if I was banned after $2 million in payouts....that is more than enough for a personal account. So he used the prop firms for what they are designed for.......to fund your personal account faster. Instead of putting 2 million of his own funds in, he probably spent a few thousand on evals and PAs and now he has 2 mil to trade with..........good deal to me.
  • #42,423
  • Sep 23, 2024 1:53pm Sep 23, 2024 1:53pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I wouldn't give two shits if I was banned after $2 million in payouts....that is more than enough for a personal account. So he used the prop firms for what they are designed for.......to fund your personal account faster. Instead of putting 2 million of his own funds in, he probably spent a few thousand on evals and PAs and now he has 2 mil to trade with..........good deal to me.
You are right, but the fact they cannot continue to trade after some success is typical for this industry. And it depends a lot where you trade. Sometimes you get banned for waiting for a >10k payout, sometimes you cannot do more than 50k payouts (like me on Bespoke Funding) and sometimes later. But definitely THERE IS A LIMIT.
  • #42,424
  • Sep 23, 2024 1:55pm Sep 23, 2024 1:55pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}is my advice to anyone
I'll pass on any advice from you

We have no evidence that APEX didn't respond to these traders. We should just take the word of some random affiliate Youtube pimp? Again, there's always more to the story which we will never get from an affiliate whore.

Anyways thanks for flooding the thread with more rubbish. Much appreciated since I'm sure you are busy running a hedge fund. Weren't you also awarded the Nodbel Peace Prize?
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #42,425
  • Sep 23, 2024 1:58pm Sep 23, 2024 1:58pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} You are right, but the fact they cannot continue to trade after some success is typical for this industry. And it depends a lot where you trade. Sometimes you get banned for waiting for a >10k payout, sometimes you cannot do more than 50k payouts (like me on Bespoke Funding) and sometimes later. But definitely THERE IS A LIMIT.
Whats is definition of `SOME SUCCESSS`... he is a legend pulled 2million out and kudos to apex for paying that amount
Comparing Bespoke with APex is pure blasphemy
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #42,426
  • Sep 23, 2024 2:00pm Sep 23, 2024 2:00pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} You are right, but the fact they cannot continue to trade after some success is typical for this industry. And it depends a lot where you trade. Sometimes you get banned for waiting for a >10k payout, sometimes you cannot do more than 50k payouts (like me on Bespoke Funding) and sometimes later. But definitely THERE IS A LIMIT.
Yes, and the others like MFFU and TakeProfit, maybe Topstep??? pass you on to live, which is essentailly the same thing as banning you as you don not need them anymore.......your buffer is not withdrawable and now they are keeping 10%.....so ban me, move me to live, it's all the same....the relationship I NEEDED THEM FOR is over.
  • #42,427
  • Edited 2:13pm Sep 23, 2024 2:02pm | Edited 2:13pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I wouldn't give two shits if I was banned after $2 million in payouts....that is more than enough for a personal account. So he used the prop firms for what they are designed for.......to fund your personal account faster. Instead of putting 2 million of his own funds in, he probably spent a few thousand on evals and PAs and now he has 2 mil to trade with..........good deal to me.
I said some success because it depends where you live and how much you spend and you need for making a good living.

Say you have a big family and needs to expense $80k per year, so if any very legend trader makes like $1 million in payouts he needs to pay like 40% to 55% taxes depending on the country where he resides. Then after that there is max. $600k left and with that money he cannot live comfortable for the rest of his life. So he is forced to take much greater risks on his personal account. And learning skills on a personal broker account is bit different than trading on a prop firm. You are more emotionally involved on a larger drawdown on a personal account. Also you need to have better trading skills as there is no such advantage the prop firms can give.
  • #42,428
  • Sep 23, 2024 2:19pm Sep 23, 2024 2:19pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I said some success because it depends where you live and how much you spend and needs for making a good living. Say you have a big family and needs to expense $80k per year, so if any very legend trader makes like $1 million in payouts he needs to pay like 40% to 55% taxes depending on the country where he resides. Then after that there is max. $600k left and with that money he cannot live comfortable for the rest of his life. So he is forced to take much greater risks on his personal account. And learning skills on a personal broker account...
Show any firm which payed 500K+ in single payout. Topstep ....................thinking............Takeprofittrader............thinking..........Tradefiy........oh yea I am affiliate I know the owner hence proved.
Dude there is always other side of the story. Why would they pay to some traders and why not to others.
Apex is not a scam...they are just bad in defining rules thats it. It is like smoking warning on "Smoking (DCA) is imperious to health"
FTMO was very generous during booming days now try to YOLO they will ban you. Same thing with APEX when there are lot of signups they were lenient but now things are drying up there will be rules. Either take it or leave it.
  • #42,429
  • Sep 23, 2024 6:44pm Sep 23, 2024 6:44pm
Thought I hit tradeify's target of 3k for a 50k account yesterday, but apparently I was looking at the realised profits and not the equity. duh!

Just made up the 130 difference but looks like I will have to wait till EOD for them to reflect on the system. Went for the growth account instead of the instant.
  • #42,430
  • Sep 23, 2024 8:52pm Sep 23, 2024 8:52pm
Just got this email from APEX

But TRANdy said a random nobody on YouTube said you were bad. I'm so confused. Can somebody tell me what to think?
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  • #42,431
  • Edited 11:50pm Sep 23, 2024 9:02pm | Edited 11:50pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Haha, after you got your million dollar payout you are banned forever. Trader Kane said this too in his interview on the link above I posted earlier (after 85 minutes when the video started around). Those funded accounts are frozen forever and they cannot continue to trade. Most of those traders stay silent. Maybe they need to sign a confidential agreement about it. But it is strange that those traders cannot continue to trade on Apex anymore. We all know why, they were never LIVE. That is Apex. {image}
I never believed he could get 1.8 million USD. There’s no evidence so far. He posted his bank statement on Twitter, but I think it’s just fraud. His bank account was empty before. A Con Artist. But for the excitement of the influencer world, OK.

Source: https://x.com/_traderkane/status/183...C5NFUsX_A&s=19
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  • #42,432
  • Sep 23, 2024 9:23pm Sep 23, 2024 9:23pm
Artic Funding

I guess their target market is other 12 year olds?

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  • #42,433
  • Sep 23, 2024 9:28pm Sep 23, 2024 9:28pm
Quoting Expo33
Just got this email from APEX But TRANdy said a random nobody on YouTube said you were bad. I'm so confused. Can somebody tell me what to think? {image}
Its the best time to milk Apex.... now the payout is happening pretty faster......Soon i 'll be moving back to APEX YOLO..... Just need some money for it... Darn MYfundedfutures payout taking longer(I mean getting to a payout )
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  • #42,434
  • Edited 10:48pm Sep 23, 2024 10:36pm | Edited 10:48pm
DARWINEX ZERO UPDATE

Last update was the start of September and I had just received allocations for both of my accounts. Both accounts went into severe drawdown. I decided to cancel one of them that seemed hopeless and try and salvage the other. The one I kept was also in severe drawdown of 8% with the risk factor still sitting at 0.44.

Anyways I switched into semi YOLO mode and starting trading up to 4 lots of Silver. Kind of crazy considering a 10 cent move is like $2000. You can't afford to be wrong. Short story long, I ressurected my account from the depths of despair and ran it all the way back up to +1.7% for the month. Just enough and just in time to get a second allocation for October. D-Leverage spiked up to 60 for a minute and genrally was around 20 for a good portion of last week. BUT, my risk factor only went down to 0.37 which is still enough to keep the ball rolling unless I go insane again which is always a distinct possiblity.

Also, I started up another account but the 20 Euros off "MATCH" promo code does not seem to work anymore. Maybe they ended that when they rolled out their new long term pricing model. Anyways, I found a coupon for 10 Euros off. No big deal.

Also, just thinking out loud here. I didn't realize that you only get paid the performance fee quarterly until pipmaster mentioned it. At first glance that seems annoying but when you consider the long term DZero model it makes sense. It gives them more time to collect subscription money while giving traders more time to blow up. I kind of like it because it mitigates DZeros payout risk and should make them sustainable for years to come. Basically no trader poses any real big payout risk during the Silver phase into the Gold phase regardless if they ABC LBGTQ book your trades. IMHO, a really well thought out model.

See amazing details below. Drum roll please..........
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  • #42,435
  • Sep 23, 2024 11:19pm Sep 23, 2024 11:19pm
Quoting Expo33
DARWINEX ZERO UPDATE Last update was the start of September and I had just received allocations for both of my accounts. Both accounts went into severe drawdown. Drum roll please.......... {image} {image} {image}
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It's ok, I have one with nine and a change..
Already in allocation position for all three, 1 and 2 for the third time in the row, and started number 4 just yesterday.
I stoped updating, makes no sense anymore because it is just slow grind to the gold now and time flies so fast.
I'm still using FTMO, 5ers and Apex, but I trust Darwinex the most. MFF scenario might repeat in Europe...
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  • #42,436
  • Sep 24, 2024 1:01am Sep 24, 2024 1:01am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I never believed he could get 1.8 million USD. There’s no evidence so far. He posted his bank statement on Twitter, but I think it’s just fraud. His bank account was empty before. A Con Artist. But for the excitement of the influencer world, OK. Source: https://x.com/_traderkane/status/183...C5NFUsX_A&s=19 {image}
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  • #42,437
  • Sep 24, 2024 1:03am Sep 24, 2024 1:03am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} its the best time to milk apex.... Now the payout is happening pretty faster......soon i 'll be moving back to apex yolo..... Just need some money for it... Darn myfundedfutures payout taking longer(i mean getting to a payout )
but how you are successful in beating their highest watermark trailling drawdown, it is very hard to do
  • #42,438
  • Sep 24, 2024 1:08am Sep 24, 2024 1:08am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I never believed he could get 1.8 million USD. There’s no evidence so far. He posted his bank statement on Twitter, but I think it’s just fraud. His bank account was empty before. A Con Artist. But for the excitement of the influencer world, OK. Source: https://x.com/_traderkane/status/183...C5NFUsX_A&s=19 {image}
Not taking sides here but if I was going to receive a 1.8 mil payout I would also have an empty bank account, probably opened after speaking to a fiscal lawyer, and the bank would be other than the one I use to buy potatoes, chicken and pay my water bill. This is not like receiving my astonishing 1.8K payouts.
  • #42,439
  • Sep 24, 2024 1:37am Sep 24, 2024 1:37am
Please someone can confirm me that whether Darwinex brings Futures Feed in MT4 or not??
Earlier back in the time I watched some article in which they were talking about bringing futures feed as well in MT4.
  • #42,440
  • Sep 24, 2024 1:48am Sep 24, 2024 1:48am
Quoting genuine007
Please someone can confirm me that whether Darwinex brings Futures Feed in MT4 or not?? Earlier back in the time I watched some article in which they were talking about bringing futures feed as well in MT4.
Yeah, there it is, but of course it incurs extra cost, as futures data is not free at all.
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