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  • #621
  • Edited 12:17pm Mar 15, 2022 11:58am | Edited 12:17pm
Quoting ryuryu
Short XAU +2.46% {image} That one was a little risky. As you see there were no arrow in the sequence. But the price bounce from 100 EMA (yellow line) and the orderbook was full of sell orders. If was >26 lots So I have decided to open fast short here. Also if you check it was strong Delta. So strong Delta + big Candle size + EMA100 + a lot of lots waiting for sell in the orderblock (I call it "walls") = open the position.
Do you have the MT4 delta/volume indictor that you can post please, or is that only for Tradeview charts ??
  • #622
  • Mar 15, 2022 2:41pm Mar 15, 2022 2:41pm
Quoting Ihlas
{quote} Always glad to read and test new ideas. Even Peter's real life thing. Good luck!!!
As example:
Today with one of my teammates in discord group we discussed how to implement real-time buy/sell imbalance using order flow for our crypto trading (tradingview/python). And many other cool things.
One has idea and share it. Another one who is capable to code, or to test, trying to make it and discuss.
That I call good team play. Even great. Because we make our brains work, we look for options and ways to achieve results.

But talking about drawing lines from previous high and think that price must hit it because you drew it - that is not good. It called magical thinking - mental disorder (disorder of thought content) - the belief that one's thoughts by themselves can bring about effects in the world or that thinking something corresponds with doing it.

I don't want to play that game, because I know the rules.

But let's return to our trading. Look at that beauty:

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Today was a good profitable day as usual. Winrate still 100%.

A lot of people asking me about stop loss. I said that many times: personally I don't use stop loss for the first position. And yes, I'm using averaging.
What I don't use now is hedging. Have no time to create math formula for it, but trading using "feelings" is not my style and it leads to loss.

Stay green!
Observer effect
  • #623
  • Mar 15, 2022 3:02pm Mar 15, 2022 3:02pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} As example: Today with one of my teammates in discord group we discussed how to implement real-time buy/sell imbalance using order flow for our crypto trading (tradingview/python). And many other cool things. One has idea and share it. Another one who is capable to code, or to test, trying to make it and discuss. That I call good team play. Even great. Because we make our brains work, we look for options and ways to achieve results. But talking about drawing lines from previous high and think that price must hit it because you drew it -...
hello, trading with delta should be one shot one kill, it is razor sharp. If it requires averaging then it is as good as guessing/gambling.
I will be starting a new MFF challenge when I get my refund tomorrow, hope you can join me for the fun.
It is simple math finished one challenge you get the fee refunded hence the live account is almost 100% risk free (85% profit sharing for 4 100k live account - you do the math).

yes btw
+5% GBPUSD
+3% US30
+1.5% BTCUSD
  • #624
  • Mar 15, 2022 3:12pm Mar 15, 2022 3:12pm
python - powerful language. I used it to develop an AI to identify all the flowers in my garden just for fun. A florist friend love it so much when I give it to her.
  • #625
  • Mar 15, 2022 3:42pm Mar 15, 2022 3:42pm
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Example of one shot one kill - razor sharp, anytime of the day.
But I have my preferred trading time.
  • #626
  • Mar 15, 2022 5:27pm Mar 15, 2022 5:27pm
Quoting mixedbags
{quote} hello, trading with delta should be one shot one kill, it is razor sharp. If it requires averaging then it is as good as guessing/gambling. I will be starting a new MFF challenge when I get my refund tomorrow, hope you can join me for the fun. It is simple math finished one challenge you get the fee refunded hence the live account is almost 100% risk free (85% profit sharing for 4 100k live account - you do the math). yes btw +5% GBPUSD +3% US30 +1.5% BTCUSD
If you want to get serious about trading, you need to control your own equity and have it secured.
Without a safe and secure access to your equity, you have no chance in surviving in this game long term.

Prop firm money can disappear overnight and your’e left with nothing. This isn’t a game, better to talk to your accountant rather than a fake prop firm in a industry where most don’t have the appropriate credentials.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #627
  • Edited 5:52pm Mar 15, 2022 5:28pm | Edited 5:52pm
Quoting mixedbags
hello, trading with delta should be one shot one kill, it is razor sharp. If it requires averaging then it is as good as guessing/gambling. I will be starting a new MFF challenge when I get my refund tomorrow, hope you can join me for the fun. It is simple math finished one challenge you get the fee refunded hence the live account is almost 100% risk free (85% profit sharing for 4 100k live account - you do the math). yes btw +5% GBPUSD +3% US30 +1.5% BTCUSD
Depends on what sharp means. Volume delta is not sharp enough.
Quoting mixedbags
{image} Example of one shot one kill - razor sharp, anytime of the day. But I have my preferred trading time.
Well done MB!

And you should also say that you did that with math. Like in anything, there's real and fake math. Your coloured lines is the real deal. What's weird is I use the same lines.
Know what you trade
  • #628
  • Mar 15, 2022 5:57pm Mar 15, 2022 5:57pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} If you want to get serious about trading, you need to control your own equity and have it secured. Without a safe and secure access to your equity, you have no chance in surviving in this game long term. Prop firm money can disappear overnight and your’e left with nothing. This isn’t a game, better to talk to your accountant rather than a fake prop firm in a industry where most don’t have the appropriate credentials.
noted with thanks. if mff fold up now I have already taken my share in all my live accounts.
For example, I'll be withdrawing 75% plus my fee for this fresh live account today.
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so far FTMO and MFF still in business.
I would have join profitfarmer in the Axiselect but they don't recognize my trading credential with FTMO.
  • #629
  • Mar 15, 2022 5:57pm Mar 15, 2022 5:57pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Depends on what sharp means. Volume delta is not sharp enough. {quote} Well done MB! And you should also say that you did that with math. Like in anything, there's real and fake math. Your coloured lines is the real deal. What's weird is I use the same lines.
nothing special about those lines - they are based on ROC (percentage).
  • #630
  • Mar 15, 2022 6:01pm Mar 15, 2022 6:01pm
Quoting mixedbags
nothing special about those lines - they are based on ROC (percentage).
Yup, it's simple roc.
Know what you trade
  • #631
  • Mar 15, 2022 6:01pm Mar 15, 2022 6:01pm
What is the best time to trade Gold?
  • #632
  • Mar 15, 2022 6:04pm Mar 15, 2022 6:04pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Depends on what sharp means. Volume delta is not sharp enough. {quote} Well done MB! And you should also say that you did that with math. Like in anything, there's real and fake math. Your coloured lines is the real deal. What's weird is I use the same lines.
What’s weird BWilliams is you have told me and Zoltan in numerous private messages that you DO NOT TRADE with live accounts. You told us you are a demo trader only.

You then got all upset with us and told us you were starting another demo account up with FTMO because in your words, you were going to embarrass us with your great results.

You then disappeared for months.

What happened!?

I see you as a fake guru who doesn’t have the balls to trade their own strategy with a live account.

Please enlighten me.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #633
  • Mar 15, 2022 6:14pm Mar 15, 2022 6:14pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} What’s weird BWilliams is you have told me and Zoltan in numerous private messages that you DO NOT TRADE with live accounts. You told us you are a demo trader only. You then got all upset with us and told us you were starting another demo account up with FTMO because in your words, you were going to embarrass us with your great results. You then disappeared for months. What happened!? I see you as a fake guru who doesn’t have the balls to trade their own strategy with a live account. Please enlighten me.
My final message to profitfarmer dated 21 Sep 2021.

"Zoltan, I have delivered my message. I won't waste any more time on this. I am moving on. This series of pms with you ends with this last one."

I put you on ignore before. I don't wish to interact with you. I also don't want to put anyone on ignore. Pls put me on ignore or ignore my posts.

And unlike you and Zoltan who act like Gurus on forum, I'm not a guru, never will be. I just post my ideas and opinions on Andy's discussion thread. That's not a crime, right?
Know what you trade
  • #634
  • Edited 6:47pm Mar 15, 2022 6:25pm | Edited 6:47pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} My final message to profitfarmer dated 21 Sep 2021. "Zoltan, I have delivered my message. I won't waste any more time on this. I am moving on. This series of pms with you ends with this last one." I put you on ignore before. I don't wish to interact with you. I also don't want to put anyone on ignore. Pls put me on ignore or ignore my posts. And unlike you and Zoltan who act like Gurus on forum, I'm not a guru, never will be. I just post my ideas and opinions on Andy's discussion thread. That's not a crime, right?
You seemed to have forgotten the numerous other private messages you send Zoltan, some were disgusting.

You haven’t answered the question.

Mr Demo trader, how did the FTMO trial go?

I think we know the answer to that don’t we, but please show us your trading results from the trial.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #635
  • Mar 15, 2022 8:36pm Mar 15, 2022 8:36pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Great, but how you determine top for example? Let me guess. You draw the line from previous high. But this is not good. It is like to say that your car speed limit is 48km/h because it is the average speed in your town for last year. It is not. Your car can do 180km/h for sure. And do it for hours. But, how to determine how long it can do 180km/h? Using average speed? Nope. Using data how many fuel you have in your tank (at least). {quote} Very strange statement. On forex you have NO data, only OHCL. What are you trying to compare? No data...


Again you're hyper-focusing on one area alone. "Top" refers to nothing on a chart. All you here need an attitude adjustment, or a truck to run you over so you can step back into reality. Right now, this very minute, I can think of more than 5 different "types" of data that I can extract from any market..... not a "service" but me. If you can only govern your trading by what's in your head - you're screwed. If that's how you think and process information ... That's not remotely trading, it's fantasy stuff. EVERY market offers data. But most don't know what to do with it ... so they "blame" the data. Hihihi jeez. Don't "agree"? Go over to crypto or mainstream stocks etc. Take a pick.

I'll say it this way for you - trading done well, is about taking BACK control, not giving it all. Tradingview is no different IF you look at it realistically. NOT the sales spiel but merely the basics.

Re: your car eg ..... if the person behind the wheel is an idiot and refuses to learn anything, then clearly they shouldn't be driving anything on the roads, therefore it won't matter what dashboard you put in front of them. EVER. It'll be groundhog day for the person forever.

I'll give you an eg of just how silly all this is - years ago there was talk about changing over from jap candlesticks to point and figure because a concern was raised about the efficiency of the candlestick way. This was to do with tech changes and the impact it would/may have on the markets. As we see today, the change never happened, however, let's say that it was mandated that a worldwide change happened like that tomorrow 17th March 2022. There's nothing you can do about it AND P&F will change the way data is seen, used and distributed. Unfortunately here, all the people who say "that won't change orderbook use etc". My arse it won't !!! Every tool or viewpoint accessed and used changes what you think is necessary and important. Regardless of EA's used or not, your MM or LQ will look at P&F as something you don't.

As I've said, you are listening to people who are using you Ryan. People who can't figure it for themselves (on sites like these) always seem to go suck up to those who do and who know because they cannot do it. So now tell me that your level of seriousness matches that of a real trader who is "All In". Many I've met who have traded for years have lives to lead and so do not have time to yak on "trading websites". I however do see value in people so I place some time to it.

A fixated trader cannot process data well, cannot see the opportunity.

There, done.


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #636
  • Edited 9:54pm Mar 15, 2022 9:31pm | Edited 9:54pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
EVERY market offers data. But most don't know what to do with it ... so they "blame" the data.
This is not true. For example forex brokers do not provide volume data at all. But CME provides.
If you look at crypto there are about the same situation. Some exchanges use same approach - data feeds from many sources to draw "tick data" charts.
It is a part of trader hard work to find good volume data source. But you are talking only about proprietary commercial software you are using. It doesn't matter. Data source and its quality matter.

The "problem" (it is not in fact), is that 99% "traders" here don't even know how the market works, how orderbook works, what is the difference between market and limit orders, what type of order types we have and how they act. Also they don't understand that average forex "trader" has no volume, no orderflow, to orderbook data at all.

Anyway, my approach called "tactical advantage". Algo helps to improve speed, data helps to improve winrate. Remember, here I don't have advanced drawing skills, great news interpretation and medal for the greatest predictions of the future

Quoting mixedbags
{quote} noted with thanks. if mff fold up now I have already taken my share in all my live accounts. For example, I'll be withdrawing 75% plus my fee for this fresh live account today. {image} so far FTMO and MFF still in business. I would have join profitfarmer in the Axiselect but they don't recognize my trading credential with FTMO.
This thread is not for advertising FTMO scam. This thread is not to post your charts and incredible trading results. This thread is about volume delta trading.
Please follow house rules.

Quoting Nesgraphix
What is the best time to trade Gold?
About middle of IX century I guess. And early XX also good

Quoting mixedbags
hello, trading with delta should be one shot one kill, it is razor sharp. If it requires averaging then it is as good as guessing/gambling.
There is nothing to discuss. Keep your thoughts private. It is too dumb to limit/restrict your trades with any stupid rule. Why the world I can't average my trade? Because what? Stupid FTMO rules? Or what? Who said that? Where are math evidence? Show you calculations first.
Observer effect
  • #637
  • Mar 15, 2022 10:42pm Mar 15, 2022 10:42pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} This is not true. For example forex brokers do not provide volume data at all. But CME provides. If you look at crypto there are about the same situation. Some exchanges use same approach - data feeds from many sources to draw "tick data" charts. It is a part of trader hard work to find good volume data source. But you are talking only about proprietary commercial software you are using. It doesn't matter. Data source and its quality matter. The "problem" (it is not in fact), is that 99% "traders" here don't even know how the market works,...



....... A one track mind it is then. OK good luck.


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #640
  • Mar 15, 2022 11:52pm Mar 15, 2022 11:52pm
Mixed ouchbag

what is this your mystery forex broker traders global something. You told you have a live account.

you have blacked your trading account number, the black small area looks they have under 10 imagination clients
or is your account number 0001

top left corner.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post13933476


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