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  • #441
  • Edited 9:28am Feb 9, 2022 9:18am | Edited 9:28am
Quoting heispark
{quote} Thank you for the details. By the way, does ryuryu have any meaningful drawdown? I think swing low/high is the SL...... ? {image}
I'm not using SL for the first trade. If it goes opposite I add more on next setup. Or just close. It depends on context. For example today I made 8.47% on forex. One trade was +5.58%. So next trade, if it was wrong, can be closed in -5% for example. Or I can reverse the position. For example check KEEPUSDT 5m chart today. It was impossible unstoppable move. So averaging here is a killer. Better just reverse the trade and wait until new profit will cover the loss.

Example:

Here we have
1. Three positive delta is a row and 2 of 3 > "secret" delta level and 1 even > secret level * 2
2. Stoch > 80
3. Reverse candle
4. Distance X2 ADR using EU as master pair

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  • #442
  • Feb 9, 2022 10:02am Feb 9, 2022 10:02am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} I'm not using SL for the first trade. If it goes opposite I add more on next setup. Or just close. It depends on context. For example today I made 8.47% on forex. One trade was +5.58%. So next trade, if it was wrong, can be closed in -5% for example. Or I can reverse the position. For example check KEEPUSDT 5m chart today. It was impossible unstoppable move. So averaging here is a killer. Better just reverse the trade and wait until new profit will cover the loss. Example: Here we have 1. Three positive delta is a row and 2 of 3 > "secret"...
Do you really need delta volume? Reading your details, I think you can trade even without delta volume using the other indicators in your chart and context. In my view, delta volume is not the key in your trading..... People who only focus on delta volume when they attempt to learn your strategy will fail miserably I think......
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #443
  • Feb 9, 2022 11:27am Feb 9, 2022 11:27am
Quoting heispark
{quote} Do you really need delta volume? Reading your details, I think you can trade even without delta volume using the other indicators in your chart and context. In my view, delta volume is not the key in your trading..... People who only focus on delta volume when they attempt to learn your strategy will fail miserably I think......
But delta is the heart... With no delta data it is like running thou the forest at night with closed eyes trying not to smash your head.
What is imbalance? How it works? First you have to read about order types. There are 2: limit and market. Limit orders can be IOC, FOK and many others. But stop losses are always market. That how market works. Next you have to read what cascade stops are and how it works. Then you can understand what market imbalance is, who making it, how and why. And then you can think how you, small trader, can exploit imbalance vulnerability. The only way to win on that market is to jump on the whales back. They don't care what we do. We are just a some kind of statistical error for them.

That's why delta (imbalance) is the key here. We can measure everything, but all we have is OCHL values. ONLY. So we need more data - volume. Because only real volume can tell us what big players are doing. If we have volume we can calculate the delta.
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  • #444
  • Feb 9, 2022 5:06pm Feb 9, 2022 5:06pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} But delta is the heart... With no delta data it is like running thou the forest at night with closed eyes trying not to smash your head. What is imbalance? How it works? First you have to read about order types. There are 2: limit and market. Limit orders can be IOC, FOK and many others. But stop losses are always market. That how market works. Next you have to read what cascade stops are and how it works. Then you can understand what market imbalance is, who making it, how and why. And then you can think how you, small trader, can exploit...
Sounds very complicated.... Have you tried Bookmap? Bookmap may can give more information you are looking for such as delta, imbalance, stop runs, iceberg orders, ... etc.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #445
  • Feb 10, 2022 12:41am Feb 10, 2022 12:41am
Quoting heispark
{quote} Sounds very complicated.... Have you tried Bookmap? Bookmap may can give more information you are looking for such as delta, imbalance, stop runs, iceberg orders, ... etc.
No, never tried.
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  • #446
  • Feb 10, 2022 6:24am Feb 10, 2022 6:24am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Não estou usando SL para a primeira negociação. Se for o oposto, adiciono mais na próxima configuração. Ou apenas perto. Depende do contexto. Por exemplo, hoje eu fiz 8,47% em forex. Uma negociação foi de +5,58%. Portanto, a próxima negociação, se estiver errada, pode ser fechada em -5%, por exemplo. Ou posso inverter a posição. Por exemplo, verifique o gráfico KEEPUSDT 5m hoje. Era movimento imparável impossível. Então a média aqui é um assassino. Melhor apenas reverter a negociação e esperar até que o novo lucro cubra a perda. Exemplo:...

could you share your template?
  • #447
  • Feb 10, 2022 9:02am Feb 10, 2022 9:02am
Quoting cristianocr
{quote} could you share your template?
My template is simple. To understand how everything works it is better if you make template for yourself.
The settings are:
1. EMA60 close
2. EMA120 close
3. EMA240 close
4. EMA6 low
5. EMA6 high
6. Stoch 5/3/3
7. Delta
8. Envelopes based on ADR (optional)
9. OHCL signals (filtered by trend, stoch, distance etc) (optional)
10. Reverse candle (optional)

In fact you don't need 8, 9 and 10


Stats for today:
Forex +13.09% - all XAU trades
Crypto +7.47%

All the trades based on volume delta imbalance.
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  • #448
  • Feb 10, 2022 3:10pm Feb 10, 2022 3:10pm
UPD: I must say that there are already 13 members in my discord trading room. So no more space left. Please don't ask me to add you - 13 is max allowed
maybe someone will leave the group and then the place will be vacated, but now the box is full
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  • #449
  • Feb 10, 2022 6:27pm Feb 10, 2022 6:27pm
Hello @ryuryu,
Thanks for sharing us your method of trading.

I am just started to try pine scripting and tried to recreate your tradingview script, see below image. So far I have a great results on my paper trading will share some trades later.

Hope i can join your private discord
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  • #450
  • Feb 10, 2022 11:35pm Feb 10, 2022 11:35pm
Quoting tuugii0313
Hello @ryuryu, Thanks for sharing us your method of trading. I am just started to try pine scripting and tried to recreate your tradingview script, see below image. So far I have a great results on my paper trading will share some trades later. Hope i can join your private discord {image}


Looks good! And it is also good because you made it yourself, so now you understand the logic.
Most people want to have some kind of black box, fully automated money earning system. But this doesn't exist Only hard work and a lot of practice

Since you can code pine script you are welcome, so pm me I'll give you invite link
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  • #451
  • Feb 10, 2022 11:46pm Feb 10, 2022 11:46pm
I'll try to start new day with some quick analysis of the market.
Today I picked these coins to trade
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So I'll watch closely to them. As you know I trade only 1 coin at once, so I must be careful with my choice.
(in fact I'm trading all with my bot haha )
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  • #452
  • Edited 2:30pm Feb 11, 2022 7:59am | Edited 2:30pm
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Candle No. 1 - relatively large volume, large bearish candle but not a small positive delta ... the guys are absorbing the orders probably SL, -waiting
Candle No. 2 - still a large volume, a small candle, and a small positive delta ... are breaking through the orders - waiting
Candle No. 3 - big volume, big candle, and reasonable positive delta ... it looks like they couldn't handle all SL orders and probably other buy orders that appeared ... it could be a buy signal, but we are still far from the Envelope level… pullback - waiting
Candle No. 4 - smaller volume, candles large but still medium-sized and the delta positive, but smaller than before, SL absorption and all incoming buy orders, the price is approaching the Envelope level ... from Candle No. 1 Stochastic is "oversold" - waiting
Candle No. 5 - Large bearish candle, breaks the Envelope level, large volume and Flip Delta to negative - waiting, getting warm
Candle No. 6 - a small candle, smaller but still large volume, still negative Delta, but declining significantly - waiting , getting hot
Candle No. 7 - a large bullish candle, Flip Delta to positive and of considerable value. Breaking back Envelope level - action
The close of the candle is the level for position taking ...

We have Stoch in the “oversold” zone
Delta Flip
Positive Delta has good value
We have large volumes
Envelope level broken ...
After entry,all the time the delta is positive until the exit shown by the stochastic in the “overbought” zone, just before the next delta flip ...

Does this story make sense? Am I just making up?
Guys, have nice weekend
  • #453
  • Feb 11, 2022 8:20am Feb 11, 2022 8:20am
Looks like you nailed it! Especially "stoch exit" rule
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  • #454
  • Feb 11, 2022 8:44am Feb 11, 2022 8:44am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} But delta is the heart... With no delta data it is like running thou the forest at night with closed eyes trying not to smash your head. What is imbalance? How it works? First you have to read about order types. There are 2: limit and market. Limit orders can be IOC, FOK and many others. But stop losses are always market. That how market works. Next you have to read what cascade stops are and how it works. Then you can understand what market imbalance is, who making it, how and why. And then you can think how you, small trader, can exploit...
Yes you nail it. All this bid info what we get is imagination values and not based on real trades.

If you trade using IC markets, you must seen lot of gaps with EU, space where is no LP's imagniation numbers or wide bars. it just bull shit numbers what they give retailers. How to same time less traded EJ dont have those and they have been moving past days together.

I have been trading past month ej, eu , without non stop. 24/5, sleeping just couple hours like a sailor alone around world.

I dont know is IC presenting real values, because they show those gaps. but candles are missleading.
These movements has been take out Short retailers, same time fx street analizers, are talking different directions everyday. so dont belive talking heads. specially forexlive, fxstreet.
people will loosing they money, same as all bankers publish they statments, when they try to get rid off they positions, and let retailers, pay for that, and companies which follow them.

Have been not in fxfucktory and wont, and sorry about your channel, i try to explain something, but i was little bit drunk, and couldnt remove all bullshit from, me even something was ok stuff. So apologies from me deep from my heart.

Soon we are end of this chaotic period, which every year happend jan-feb, and march we are back to bussiness and generate revenue.

I dont understand why ECB la grande fiasco lady, dont understan give clear message, because so many times draghi have to explain what he meant, they earn enough money to persons, who dont shake wrong way markets.

Have a nice weekend, and rest of 2022, keep rocking.
  • #455
  • Feb 11, 2022 8:55am Feb 11, 2022 8:55am
It was nice to see how market profile worked, so well with EJ. and price swing back to POC, even i like to trade LOD.
  • #456
  • Edited 10:29am Feb 11, 2022 10:14am | Edited 10:29am
Quoting kk100
It was nice to see how market profile worked, so well with EJ. and price swing back to POC, even i like to trade LOD.

everytime when major bank tell you sell, or buy, they have opposite direction.
thats why cant use those information.

following is not for you directly, but for education forum where i wont touch.

Predictability stops , only 1 min or 5 min can use, and 5 mins , use for situations when atr 5 min is less than 5.
these who babble, 1 min or 5 min you can predict next movement, other timeframes kills your stops.

these are easy spot also, check which time frame behave like a sin wave. it change all the time, but when you spot them, they are good entries. symmetrical waves. because those are machine generated.

I just saw FXEZ put you and me , ignore list. Good for him. I would use scisorss for his tie. Rule number one, in any respetcfull dealing desk. dont use tie.
  • #457
  • Feb 11, 2022 1:08pm Feb 11, 2022 1:08pm
Quoting kk100
If you trade using IC markets, you must seen lot of gaps with EU


Yeah, that's why we are using CME volume data, but not that bullshit tick-volume-no-one-ever-know-and-seen-what-the-fuc-it-is

Please don't apologize for your
You are always welcome my friend!



We are the champions!!! And We Will Rock!
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  • #458
  • Edited 2:56pm Feb 11, 2022 1:59pm | Edited 2:56pm
Don't waste your time here. The OP has personality issues. You won't learn anything of value from such a person.
Update: edited out some content.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #459
  • Feb 11, 2022 2:20pm Feb 11, 2022 2:20pm
Quoting here2there
Don't waste your time here. The OP has personality issues. You won't learn anything of value from such a person. I asked a simple question, and this is the response I got. {image}
What is your credibility when you make your/his private correspondence public?
  • #460
  • Feb 11, 2022 2:32pm Feb 11, 2022 2:32pm
Quoting BlackNapkins
{quote} What is your credibility when you make your/his private correspondence public?
This has nothing to do with credibility. My question did not deserve a response like that.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
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