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  • #321
  • Oct 30, 2021 9:10am Oct 30, 2021 9:10am
Quoting Fkbsv
Came here by accident but had a laugh reading this rabbit hole https://cryptocassandra.medium.com/w...p-378490ce854d Mr Goat maybe you get good chuckles out of it as well. I promise it is worth reading till the end
Hey bro glad you found us. That Medium article was brought up earlier in the thread -- no, I'm not Elon Musk. Not only am I not Elon, but I think he's the biggest fraud in America today.

The only interesting thing about this thread is that many of us know who invented Bitcoin. I personally have 16,200 coins bet on it.

Quoting Fkbsv
I would love to share puzzle pieces and see if there is knowledge that is new to one of us
You can PM me, or just post it here. Nobody's reading this thread anyway.
  • #322
  • Oct 30, 2021 3:41pm Oct 30, 2021 3:41pm
Haha, yeah I was not really interested in what that medium guy had to say as he seemed a bit mentally unstable but I found it funny that he found all this links to Elon and fabricated all these investments from Apple and so forth

I would be a bit careful with giving personal info here. Not because of the community but as with Satoshi, maybe 5 years later someone googles it and you can be tracked. If you are right about your investment, you gotta protect once these coins become billions. Will pm and post here as well !
  • #323
  • Oct 30, 2021 3:43pm Oct 30, 2021 3:43pm
I read this thread
  • #324
  • Edited 8:50pm Oct 30, 2021 8:39pm | Edited 8:50pm
Quoting Fkbsv
I found it funny that he found all this links to Elon and fabricated all these investments from Apple and so forth
Yeah man the dude is a great conspiracy theorist. My favorite part is how he connected my "Trading is about mastering probabilities..." philosophy to Elon's quote. That actually bothered me.

Quoting Fkbsv
I would be a bit careful with giving personal info here.
Great advice for every crypto whale. Me personally, I got tricked, trapped, and robbed long before I touched a computer. That early beatdown has served me well in the financial arena.

Btw, one reason I love Crypto Craft is they encourage members to obscure their identity. My kind of place.

Quoting Fkbsv
once these coins become billions.
Pretty sure I'll be selling when they're worth a couple hundred milly.
  • #325
  • Oct 30, 2021 10:14pm Oct 30, 2021 10:14pm
What do you guys think is gonna happen? There have been many weighing in lately about the Court case, possible outcomes and what to expect. Also there has been a decent balanced view of a BSV supporter: https://medium.com/@oudekaas3/why-i-...s-c696e821099c

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plenty more coverage once trial starts. What do you guys think will happen to BSV during those first days? Tomorrow Binance can dump BSV. I assume if tether wants to diverge attention it would pump BTC next few days. But I am still on the fence with some of CSWs traits and the lies/forgeries (whichever are his or others).

CSW is so smart at times but then such a liability. Man I wish this court case brings some form of closure with some of the missing puzzle pieces.
And hi everyone
  • #326
  • Nov 1, 2021 1:26pm Nov 1, 2021 1:26pm
Thanks for the video Fkbsv. That kid has the most complete understanding of CW that I've heard. I share his understanding of the big picture, but he has all the details and closely witnessed the history. I learned a lot, much of it encouraging. The Kleinman case could definitely be good for us longs.

Quoting Fkbsv
CSW is so smart at times but then such a liability.
He's such a nutter. His mind is deformed in a way that produces some fascinating results.
  • #327
  • Edited 3:55pm Nov 1, 2021 3:23pm | Edited 3:55pm
Quoting Fkbsv
https://medium.com/@oudekaas3/why-i-...s-c696e821099c
This article is also quite insightful. Thank you bro!!!

Funny how Oudekaas lays out what must be the most complete list of Craig Wright's shady behavior (several I wasn't aware of), yet he still concludes Craig is Satoshi. I've said it a million times: any logical/scientific analysis leads to the same conclusion, that CW is Satoshi. Craig Wright doesn't even have fans -- all he has is a group of logical sociopaths who've done their homework. Exactly the type of people who manage the world's smart money and have the ability to send BSV to four figures.
  • #328
  • Nov 1, 2021 3:31pm Nov 1, 2021 3:31pm
Here's a reporter covering the case: https://twitter.com/CarolinaBolado

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  • #329
  • Nov 1, 2021 6:22pm Nov 1, 2021 6:22pm
CoinGeek will follow the court 5 times a week with streams and recaps:
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I assume if CSW is not Satoshi he at least fooled Calvin Ayre, Kurt Wuckert and others that go all-in on reporting and banking on this. All eggs in one basket kind of thing when it comes to BSV short to mid-term reputation. I am quite excited about the remaining evidence. In the end the verdict will have to be after it is established who owns what portion of the Bitcoin AND if CSW is the owner of those Coins (aka Satoshi).

Will be a few interesting weeks, I will pull long shifts to understand what it all means before the verdict is out.

Goat I sent you a pm I think or was your folder empty?
  • #330
  • Nov 1, 2021 6:43pm Nov 1, 2021 6:43pm
Quoting Fkbsv
What do you guys think is gonna happen? There have been many weighing in lately about the Court case, possible outcomes and what to expect. Also there has been a decent balanced view of a BSV supporter: https://medium.com/@oudekaas3/why-i-...s-c696e821099c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFGN9RE-UA&t=1s plenty more coverage once trial starts. What do you guys think will happen to BSV during those first days? Tomorrow Binance can dump BSV. I assume if tether...
so the time stamped future coin release (supposedly to CW? ) done a decade ago was essentially killed by code? with BSV being the only bitcoin base that has re- implemented this inheritance system? All that talk of 'having his keys stolen' was some kind of metaphor?
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  • #331
  • Nov 1, 2021 6:51pm Nov 1, 2021 6:51pm
Quoting JackJones
{quote} so that the main issue CW has? that the time stamped future coin release (supposedly to CW? ) done a decade ago was essentially killed by code? with BSV being the only bitcoin base that has re- implemented this inheritance system?
Dude! That's some heavy shit right there. Gave me the chills. Did you just crack that yourself or did you hear it somewhere?? This is the first time I've heard anyone make sense of the $50B that CW claims to be stolen. You've also explained why CW wants to prove ownership beyond the possession of keys.
  • #332
  • Nov 1, 2021 6:52pm Nov 1, 2021 6:52pm
Quoting Fkbsv
Goat I sent you a pm I think or was your folder empty?
Replied.
  • #333
  • Nov 1, 2021 7:03pm Nov 1, 2021 7:03pm
Quoting Goat
{quote} Dude! That's some heavy shit right there. Gave me the chills. Did you just crack that yourself or did you hear it somewhere?? This is the first time I've heard anyone make sense of the $50B that CW claims to be stolen. You've also explained why CW wants to prove ownership beyond the possession of keys.
Joshua Henslee talks about it in the video just above, he also alleged Vitalik and ETH crew are possibly modding Core code to benefit themselves!!

Just as apparently Bitcoin Core did (if everything is true) in order screw CW and Klienman of his/their time-stamped release.

copied link to start at 26 mins he starts to talk about it then, n-lock time, and he does claim it is 'just a theory', segwit and bch essentially "nuked" the tx

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  • #334
  • Nov 1, 2021 7:11pm Nov 1, 2021 7:11pm
Quoting JackJones
{quote} Joshua Henslee talks about it in the video just above, he also alleged Vitalik and ETH crew are possibly modding Core code to benefit themselves!! Just as apparently Bitcoin Core did (if everything is true) in order screw CW and Klienman of his/their time-stamped release.
I listened to that video, twice, but didn't pick up on it. I thought he was talking about the time-stamped transaction as a way for the courts to redistribute coins back to their rightful owner. It never occurred to me that code changes rendered useless an earlier time-stamped transaction.

I remember Joshua talking about a theory he had near the end of the video, but I couldn't follow. I think that's the part you're talking about? I'll give it another listen tomorrow.
  • #335
  • Nov 1, 2021 7:15pm Nov 1, 2021 7:15pm
Quoting JackJones
copied link to start at 26 mins he starts to talk about it then, n-lock time, and he does claim it is 'just a theory', segwit and bch essentially "nuked" the tx https://youtu.be/YsFGN9RE-UA?t=1610
I missed your edit before positing. Right on. We have ourselves a theory boys!!!!

Thank you Jack!!
  • #336
  • Edited 8:26pm Nov 1, 2021 7:31pm | Edited 8:26pm
https://bitcoinsv.io/2019/12/20/bitc...specification/

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if the coins have been locked and then nuked because of a software change then the fallout could be massive

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digging for nlocktime and this blog post comes up :

https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin...-for-planning/

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also this blog : https://medium.com/@craig_10243/why-...t-7db4f764c97c

so if his court declaration of "someone broke in and stole my keys" was just the same as saying BTC core nuked my/our locked transaction then why didn't he just say that? will he now? if this is actually true and not just another diversion that is.. 111,000 BTC locked up and he is playing silly buggers
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  • #337
  • Edited 9:29pm Nov 1, 2021 9:10pm | Edited 9:29pm
Quoting JackJones
he also alleged Vitalik and ETH crew are possibly modding Core code to benefit themselves!!
That's no allegation. He's referencing the ETC fork where Vitalik rolled back the blockchain to reverse a $50M hack. How ETH survived such fuckery is beyond my comprehension.

Quoting JackJones
https://bitcoinsv.io/2019/12/20/bitc...specification/ {image}{image} if the coins have been locked and then nuked because of a software change then the fallout could be massive {image} digging for nlocktime and this blog post comes up : https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin...-for-planning/
Yup! I can tell this theory is strong because it answers so many questions. It even explains why Craig isn't moving the Satoshi coins -- he can't! And nobody else can either.

Super excited to be making headway on this puzzle, I've been in a rut since February.

Quoting JackJones
then why didn't he just say that?
I think it's strategic. Put it like this... if you dropped a gold coin in your enemy's back yard, you wouldn't tell him it was there. You'd sneak into the back yard under some other guise.

As Joshua's LockTime Theory goes, Craig will first prove in court that law>code, then he'll use that as legal precedent to enforce his TimeLock transaction. That's how he gets into the back yard.
  • #338
  • Nov 1, 2021 9:36pm Nov 1, 2021 9:36pm
The bad news about the LockTime theory is that it means CW isn't a billionaire. I had dreams of him doing a giant BTC-to-BSV conversion.
  • #339
  • Nov 1, 2021 9:37pm Nov 1, 2021 9:37pm
Quoting Goat
{quote} That's no allegation. He's referencing the ETC fork where Vitalik rolled back the blockchain to reverse a $50M hack. How ETH survived such fuckery is beyond my comprehension.
sure but did Vitalik and his bros pocket the cash? one thing to change the code, but to suit yourselves, wowwww...

{quote} Yup! I can tell this theory is strong because it answers so many questions. It even explains why Craig isn't moving the Satoshi coins -- he can't! And nobody else can either. Super excited to be making headway, I've been stuck in a rut since February. {quote}

yah thinking i might need to go from 5 coins to 50 if any of this obfuscation on the part of CW turns out partly true, and in the possible event that he does force them to give him the coins, then what and where is his hard evidence?

I think you mentioned months ago one possible move would be to crash BTC, but now would the 'popularity' of demand for that coin absorb it? maybe!!


a lot of institutions will be glad to sit on a pile of BTC, even if it is useless


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I think it's strategic. Put it like this... if you dropped a gold coin in your enemy's back yard, you wouldn't tell him it was there. You'd sneak into the back yard under some other guise. As Joshua's LockTime Theory goes, Craig will first prove in court that law>code, then he'll use that as legal precedent to enforce his TimeLock transaction. That's how he gets into the back yard.

opens the door I guess, gets this Tulip co to show their face, but again cw is treating courts as if they are the backbone, but with no respect-- also a case of forging documents?? i mean he either thinks the legal system is pivotal to western democracy or he doesn't, yet he also suggests that it needs to be respected it when it suits him? meh, i don't know much, but If i get some time might be good to see if there is anything public about why btc core thought nlocktime needed to be cut, other than the possible obvious reason of course.
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  • #340
  • Nov 1, 2021 9:41pm Nov 1, 2021 9:41pm
Quoting JackJones
{quote} sure but did Vitalik and his bros pocket the cash?
They compromised the ETH blockchain to get the $50M back from the hacker. A lot of it was probably Vitalik's loot. In hindsight it was a smart decision by the Russian -- Vitalik understood very well that his fans don't give a fuck about integrity.

Quoting JackJones
but again cw is treating courts as if they are the law, but with no respect
Well, he's a lawyer, so I have to assume he knows what he's doing. But he's also a nutter so who knows.

Quoting JackJones
also case of forging documents??
What exactly happened there? I've never understood the context for that accusation. I figured it was some lawyer shit of which I have little understanding.
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