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Quoting RickM
{quote} Looks good Ryan, I need to find time to investigate this strategy
You know I just don't like all that "average the average" things. That's why instead of using BB channel (in fact it is moving average) why not just use high and low values?
Highest high and lowest low are more accurate.

I'm very suspicious . So all that shit about "close" values make no sense for me. Why we all are using candle close value? Why?
In fact what close is? It is the value of the price at the 60 second (if we are talking about 1m tf). So what? Why not the value of every 43 second? This make no sense. But highest value of the period is really highest value. Same as lowest.

if I have no direct answer on the question I will not use that instrument. Example questions:
1. What are the source of forex tick volume data? - No answer.
2. Why use period of 14 for RSI? What it 14? - No answer.
3. Why use exponential moving average, not simple? Why period 200? What is 200? What for we need to average the average?
4. Why min lot size on forex is 0.01 only? Their databases not allow to have more than 2 decimals? It is too hard to program?
5. Why TFs are 1,3,5,15? Where are 2 and 10? Why we can't go deeper than 1 min?
6. And so on and so on.
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How to make +25% in one day?

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Easy.

First check what to trade using my free dashboard:

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Then go and check 3-in-a-row sequence:

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Each trade can earn 1%, with 10x leverage it is 10%, so 3 trades = +30% - fees. That is your +25%.

You ask me why miss first trade? Because MA order was mixed. Too dangerous to trade.

Of course YOU MUST REALIZE that it is IMPOSSIBLE to earn 25% daily. It can be achieved only with 5$ deposit and with 500$ waiting on sub-account to recover.
DO not trade like that. Never. Your daily goal must be 0.1 - 0.25% max. That is achievable for sure.
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It seems the pattern has changed today, the cable falls with the dollar instead of strengthening.
Have you seen similiar correlation before 2023?
#IDDQD Return Today: 53.1%
Quoting Ferna
It seems the pattern has changed today, the cable falls with the dollar instead of strengthening. Have you seen similiar correlation before 2023?
Men, I think you should forget words like "pattern". There are no patterns. They exist only in your imaginations. If cable falls then someone was selling it hard. That's all. No patterns, no predictions. Just a lot of sales. More people sell -> lower the price. Lower the price -> more stops triggered. More stops triggered - more and more limit orders filled -> price become lower and lower. That's all.
If you want to earn -> jump in and ride it. If you want to dream and find "patterns" then it is another task.
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1. Vol = ok
2. Distance = ok
3. MA order = ok
4. Distance from average = extreme = ok
5. 3-in-a-row delta = found
6. Even Stochastic is ok (red rombs) - for people who love OHLC indicators

what are you waiting for?
jump in!

and boom

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+39%

P.S. Now please tell me what for I need to draw stupid colored lines on my chart and talk with serious face about support and resistance levels because of banks blah-blah-blah Only VOLUME, only HARDCORE! We don't need any bullshit data, all we need is ORDERFLOW!
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Quoting ryuryu
{image} 1. Vol = ok 2. Distance = ok 3. MA order = ok 4. Distance from average = extreme = ok 5. 3-in-a-row delta = found 6. Even Stochastic is ok (red rombs) - for people who love OHLC indicators what are you waiting for? jump in! and boom {image} +39% P.S. Now please tell me what for I need to draw stupid colored lines on my chart and talk with serious face about support and resistance levels because of banks blah-blah-blah Only VOLUME, only HARDCORE!...
hehehe, i went long, now i am 100%+ wonder where this will end
#IDDQD Return Today: 53.1%
Quoting Ferna
{quote} hehehe, i went long, now i am 100%+ wonder where this will end
Great!

You asked something about why cable has fallen and something about patterns and so on.

Now look at that beauty:

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Do you see OP with 0.8% and 800000$ vol per minute? Do you see SOL, APT?
What cable with 0.02% you are talking about? Why I should even get my ass off the sofa for that? It make no sense. There are no money for me in cable. It is too risky, too dangerous to trade and just not profitable at all.
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Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Great! You asked something about why cable has fallen and something about patterns and so on. Now look at that beauty: {image} Do you see OP with 0.8% and 800000$ vol per minute? Do you see SOL, APT? What cable with 0.02% you are talking about? Why I should even get my ass off the sofa for that? It make no sense. There are no money for me in cable. It is too risky, too dangerous to trade and just not profitable at all.
They say u should start with one asset. Im not a professional trader, so i'm trying to get good with one asset.

I don't wanna start trade crypto, commodity, options or stocks.
Did only good trades wtih currency and index.
But proably bonds and commodities is the most safe and reliable asset classes.

What is that dist %? distance from where?
#IDDQD Return Today: 53.1%
Ryan

Looks like your mate over in the “Algo or Real” thread Andypants just started attacking Dave.

I know, great friend.

Maybe I got my wires crossed as well but both Dave and myself thought Andy was having another meltdown and attacking Dave himself instead of you

Who needs enemies ah!

Strange guy, who even can’t be bothered posting any charts on his own thread. If it wasn’t for Timetells, his thread would be dead. I think Andy not supporting his own thread is fuckin weird, disappointing and maybe points his lack of profitability

Andy just is missing mostly and offering little, you Ryan on the other hand spend countless hours a week helping traders in your group for no charge. Also let’s not forget you give away much of your work for free.

Now 39% return on a trade - I have seen Ryan do that many times during countless trading sessions together.

Its real, and anyone can achieve those results as well if they apply themselves and basically put in the bloody hours.

We are Intraday traders here and we aggressively trade moderate size accounts using Volume for high daily returns. We DO NOT compound.our returns, rather we withdraw and pay ourselves a wage.

Therefore we will not earn millions a year but do pay ourself a nice wage.

Last thing about Ryans returns - Crypto offers profits that are 4 to 5 times higher than Forex markets because the point movement is bigger. Strangely the risk is far less than trading Forex Markets so everyone should get their bloody head out of the sand (Andy just have a look instead of snapping) and check it out.

Ryan doesn’t bite, he is a very generous guy.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
Quoting Ferna
{quote} They say u should start with one asset. Im not a professional trader, so i'm trying to get good with one asset. I don't wanna start trade crypto, commodity, options or stocks. Did only good trades wtih currency and index. But proably bonds and commodities is the most safe and reliable asset classes. What is that dist %? distance from where?
Who the fuck said that, some trading teacher?.

One asset, you don’t need one asset to learn to become profitable.

You need to master one playbook setup.

A setup you can practice and master, then you can let the hand break off and throttle up.

Go big, master that one setup you have taken 10,000 times and know it as intermittently as your ………

Ryan shows his setup above and trades it a lot, works on most markets very well.

You can become a professional trader trading just one setup on any market you like, or develop one just for a particular market.

I trade the S&P E Mini trading a setup I call the “Razor” at the moment where it’s the only setup I have traded this year. It’s based on a strategy we talk here a lot about trading Market Order Executions but with a twist.
I ‘m attempting to front run HFT’s Algo’s operating out of Quant trading company’s directly from the US stock markets.

And winning, fuck’n take that you bastards.
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Quoting Ferna
{quote} They say u should start with one asset. Im not a professional trader, so i'm trying to get good with one asset. I don't wanna start trade crypto, commodity, options or stocks. Did only good trades wtih currency and index. But proably bonds and commodities is the most safe and reliable asset classes. What is that dist %? distance from where?
Sorry but your statement make no sense for me.

Who "they" are? Who told you to start with one asset and why? For example 3 amigos were trading XRP hard in Summer, but now there are no vol and no good distance on it. So if you have chosen 1 asset then you must have half-a-year vacations? Or what? You should trade not one asset, you should trade what it tradable.

Next question. Why "they" didn't told you to use calculator? It is too complicated? Too hard? Or what? You said "bonds and commodities is the most safe and reliable asset classes". What you mean when you said "probably"? Why guesswork? Calculate it.

For example you like trading GBP. Ok.
Forex leverage is 500, crypto is 100, but let's pick 50x coins. So it is 10 times the difference.
1 lot size is 100000$, min lot size is 0.01, so it is 1 000$, so /10 = 100$. Forex min lot size is 100$.

Now let's check what crypto has.
doge = 0.09$
apt = 0.18$
atom (I made 100% on it yesterday) = 1.48$

100 / 1.48$ = 67. Trading GBP is 67 times more risky.

Let's calculate the profits then.
Average distance on GBP is 0.03%, 0.03 * 10 = 0.3%, where yesterday OP was 0.8%, so about 3x times more profitable as well.

So what we have here? Trading GBP is 67 times more risky and 3 times less profitable. Great. Let's go and draw few fancy colored lines on the chart and find repainting 3-bar formations to show how good we are at picking tops and bottoms. Who they want to cheat and impress? Guys with IQ < 30?

Trading is a hard job. Trading is math. No shit, no cheat. Only calculations.
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Quoting RickM
Ryan Looks like your mate over in the “Algo or Real” thread Andypants just started attacking Dave. I know, great friend. Maybe I got my wires crossed as well but both Dave and myself thought Andy was having another meltdown and attacking Dave himself instead of you Who needs enemies ah!
I'm a little bit stuck with all that "mates" around. And I forgot who Andypants is and who Dave is. Who is good and who is bad here?
Let me re-read it, I just don't remember all that FF shit, my head is full of numbers you know

In general I think all that complainers around they're just jealous.

They see how much we have already achieved, how far we have gone and compare it with their results. And all they see is that all they have is lies. Stupid lines on charts, idiotic stories about the philosophy of trading and other nonsense. And we have robots, indicators, dashboards, scripts and we are head and shoulders above them. And most importantly, they see that we really earn, so they attack us.

If they spit in your back, then you are ahead.

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Who wants +55% daily in 2 trades?

Here we go

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The logic is the same:
1. Check what to trade
2. Trade!

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Quoting ryuryu
Who wants +55% daily in 2 trades? Here we go {image} The logic is the same: 1. Check what to trade 2. Trade!
Please can you check your PM? My TV name is aahmad29. Thanks
Love for all; Hatred for none.
Quoting aahmad29
{quote} Please can you check your PM? My TV name is aahmad29. Thanks
Sure my friend, answered.

Btw check what logo for my bot Midjourney AI made

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it looks pretty angry, like is say " What? Colored lines? Trading using drawing tools? Whaaat?"
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Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Sure my friend, answered. Btw check what logo for my bot Midjourney AI made {image} it looks pretty angry, like is say " What? Colored lines? Trading using drawing tools? Whaaat?"
Cool and thanks
Love for all; Hatred for none.
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Sure my friend, answered. Btw check what logo for my bot Midjourney AI made {image} it looks pretty angry, like is say " What? Colored lines? Trading using drawing tools? Whaaat?"
Please can you check PM?
Love for all; Hatred for none.
I have visualized my math and want to share that with you guys and girls.

The idea is that we are trading 3-in-arow.

But, look here

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Here we have a lot of 3-in-a-row, and we can use it like IN-OUT (here we in and here we out). But let's check the best "green" signals and mark them once more time:

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Now let's think... why first one is not good for short?

Easy in fact. Do you see yellow lines? They are 240 high and 240 low.

Now, see that all next "good" signals are close to it? And the first one not?

That is the ANSWER.

I'm too tired today to post why and al the math behind, but if you smart enough you understand why.

Remember my MA order rule? If not - re-read the thread. Or join discord trading room. And re-read it from the stretch.

Remember: math matter! Trading is math!
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How to use distance in trading?

I said many times that you can trade successfully with any strategy you like if you are using volume data. For example it can be MA cross, or MACD. Or whatever you like (I don't suggest to use RSI or Stochastic, because they are oscillators and they has fixed range, but in fact you can it em too).

Let me show you example how to use just distance and be profitable.

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It doesn't matter what trading approach you will use. The key is to have rules and follow them. And volume of course. Remember no honey no money. No vol = too risky and zero profits.

Today I have created another bot for Bybit exchange to trade BTCUSD perpetual contract. It use Redis database to cache the trades data. I want to learn how to use Redis, so this was just "another' try. Bot collects trades from Bybit websocket and calculates high, low and average values for the last 6 minutes. It opens the trade always at higher price and adds more if average price higher the entry.

As you see there are no moving averages, no stochastic, nothing. It is just HIGHEST value of the selected period, LOWEST value and MIDDLE value.
And it works just great. It is profitable. Of course you have to check volume and distance and not to trade low vol assets. But in general no indicator needed.

p.s. all my trading bots are totally free of charge as usual. I can't post links here, but you can google it.
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+43.63% today in 2 trades. You?

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How it is possible. Easy. Remember most powerful 3-in-a-row approach?
Yes. But you MUST think too. Why I have picked these 2 entries only? Why I missed other?

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Because the close on signal candle was higher ma6 high.

Now, the setup it that: 5$ account, 500$ more waiting to support if needed, 2 entries with about 45x leverage (where max is 50x), minus fees = +43%

And of course the MAIN thing is that I have picked CORRECT coin to trade. Because all day long it was nothing to trade, but only APT that has abnormal volume and distance.
Initial filtering of what to trade is the key! Pick only high volume and big distance assets. No volume = no trade. Hardcoded rule painted with blood!
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