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  • #581
  • Dec 22, 2014 2:20am Dec 22, 2014 2:20am
Quoting Thepipster
{image} {quote} The EA only closes trades when the equity profit target is reached. Until then, all your trades will float around until the market moves far enough to add up to net profit. This is an unusual outcome after FOMC, you can see other currencies moved a lot, especially usdjpy. But, gold will make a move sometime. As mentioned by others, the EA doesn't add more orders to the ones already placed. It sounds like we need 60 orders to overcome weird ranges like this post-FOMC. This EA has had much higher than expected returns for some of you,...
Well, I was asking, just want to check that the logic in your EA is really up and running, coz seen nothing from there (no closed trades) and have idea in detail how your EA is working. Currently only 2 of 3 demo acct of mine has already closed order. So I guess it is running and up. Anyway, I am keeping it running, we'll see till end of this year.
If you ask me to code/fix your EA... it's probably not for free...
  • #582
  • Dec 22, 2014 4:27am Dec 22, 2014 4:27am
Still stuck to 1197 like sh!t to a shovel...
  • #583
  • Dec 22, 2014 7:33am Dec 22, 2014 7:33am
http://www.kitco.com/images/live/nyg...07787682455684


Quoting dgodfrey
@Pipster: Just wondering if it would be possible to stop out the trades instead of hedging them. The reason would be to save the double hit on spreads that a hedge imposes once the hedge is closed, as compared to simply closing the trade and not hedging. The effect would be to hollow out the center of the grid as the market wallowed around the middle of the grid. When I closed out that boxed grid I paid around an extra $280 on spreads that could have been avoided. ($20 x 0.5 x 28). For instance, if the price action hit a buy limit order then the...
You can do that by making a setting in SL and turning SLs on. The reason I don't use it is a hedge effectively closes one trade, so one loss...but if you hit a SL, than the other trade could possibly hit it's SL, too, which will make you lose twice as much money. I believe the equity target gets changed to a bad number, too.
Too close for pips, switching to points.
  • #584
  • Dec 22, 2014 7:45am Dec 22, 2014 7:45am
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You can do that by making a setting in SL and turning SLs on. The reason I don't use it is a hedge effectively closes one trade, so one loss...but if you hit a SL, than the other trade could possibly hit it's SL, too, which will make you lose twice as much money. I believe the equity target gets changed to a bad number, too.

In the scenario I was talking about, once you hit the trade on one side the other one would be cancelled, so there wouldn't be the "other trade" to get hit. A hedge is effectively a locked profit or loss, it really doesn't matter when you get out unless you deconstruct it. Which we don't do here.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #585
  • Dec 22, 2014 7:56am Dec 22, 2014 7:56am
Quoting dgodfrey
{quote} In the scenario I was talking about, once you hit the trade on one side the other one would be cancelled, so there wouldn't be the "other trade" to get hit. A hedge is effectively a locked profit or loss, it really doesn't matter when you get out unless you deconstruct it. Which we don't do here.
That's possible, but not in the scenario I was mentioning. I'm assuming both trades have already opened.
Your scenario has been mentioned, but is part of the advanced programming someone would have to step in and do. I'm not versed enough to do that complicated of coding.
Too close for pips, switching to points.
  • #586
  • Dec 22, 2014 10:50am Dec 22, 2014 10:50am
This EA still is full of surprises (read: imperfections)... again, it unexpectedly closed a cycle in negative, around 3 a.m. GMT.
There was no price movement to push it to the target; the closing price was arond $1199 - a level that price had visited at least 6 times since the cycle opened - still within the post-FOMC range.
The Experts and Journal tabs are showing nothing that could cause the closure, no account disconnections either... Am I missing anything??

Now that the price finally broke out to the downside, the balance is recovering slowly, but that's beside the point...

Pipster, have you considered/tried taking the bot to the Platform Tech forum? There must be someone knowledgeable and kind enough out there to help us...

All I can see in this thread is some well known coders just lurking and moving on...

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mind over matter
  • #587
  • Dec 22, 2014 11:07am Dec 22, 2014 11:07am
Mine did similar even after not changing timeframes and not touching anything

Oh well, back to letting the trade manager take control once the EA has set it's grid

Hopefully this can get sorted out soon
  • #588
  • Dec 22, 2014 11:09am Dec 22, 2014 11:09am
Quoting kosmo
This EA still is full of surprises (read: imperfections)... again, it unexpectedly closed a cycle in negative, around 3 a.m. GMT. There was no price movement to push it to the target; the closing price was arond $1199 - a level that price had visited at least 6 times since the cycle opened - still within the post-FOMC range. The Experts and Journal tabs are showing nothing that could cause the closure, no account disconnections either... Am I missing anything?? Now that the price finally broke out to the downside, the balance is recovering slowly,...
I really don't know what's going on. I haven't had any inadvertent closings like that, and haven't seen anybody else with that problem, besides dambuster, as long as they're not changing their TF, or settings.

I have decided that price is going to continue down, and have closed all but one buy trade, leaving 30 sells open. The EA is still going, so it will only close trades when the original equity target is reached. Since it didn't close everything on me, this leaves open the possibility to use the SL function, mentioned by dgodfrey, I just would recommend a high setting, maybe $20, so that the market doesn't leave you behind in the wrong direction.
Too close for pips, switching to points.
  • #589
  • Dec 22, 2014 11:14am Dec 22, 2014 11:14am
I'll work on the coding for doing the SL scenario I mentioned, it would be good to avoid getting hit twice on spreads and commissions. It shouldn't really change any other behavior or performance - just a different way to skin the cat to save a little money.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #590
  • Dec 22, 2014 11:28am Dec 22, 2014 11:28am
Just a little more and it should recycle. BE for me is just over 1177, the recycle should occur around 1175-1176
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #591
  • Dec 22, 2014 11:32am Dec 22, 2014 11:32am
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I have decided that price is going to continue down, and have closed all but one buy trade, leaving 30 sells open. The EA is still going, so it will only close trades when the original equity target is reached. Since it didn't close everything on me, this leaves open the possibility to use the SL function, mentioned by dgodfrey, I just would recommend a high setting, maybe $20, so that the market doesn't leave you behind in the wrong direction.

This will repair it pretty fast if you're right, hope you are. I wasn't thinking this was part of the system though. I guess it's one way out of the hedge box.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #592
  • Dec 22, 2014 11:40am Dec 22, 2014 11:40am
Quoting Thepipster
{quote} I really don't know what's going on. I haven't had any inadvertent closings like that, and haven't seen anybody else with that problem, besides dambuster, as long as they're not changing their TF, or settings.
Dambuster is with a different broker, so at least we know it's not a broker related issue. I didn't touch anything either (I know its usual limitations by now).

I understand the use of SL is an option, but I'd rather see the existing problem solved than have to go around it with the SL in play. There must be something in the code that makes the EA unstable. As long as the EA is unstable at its very roots, there is no guarantee that using SL will make any difference.
mind over matter
  • #593
  • Dec 22, 2014 12:48pm Dec 22, 2014 12:48pm
Mines up a lot ATM, but not closing as it should by the money management I put in it. I had it closing at 1% equity increase, it's already well past that. I'm not home to fix it now, sure hope it doesn't bounce back up before it takes the profit.
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #594
  • Dec 22, 2014 12:57pm Dec 22, 2014 12:57pm
Quoting kosmo
{quote} I'm looking for a dip to $1175-1170; wanna bet?
UPDATE: target reached

Imagine riding it all the way down from $1200, scaling in along the way... Now, I wouldn't dare do it live (just yet), with the EA as unstable as it is, but I'm sure you get the idea of its potential once it's 'healed'... the rest is just a little awareness of pure and simple PA.
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  • #595
  • Dec 22, 2014 1:08pm Dec 22, 2014 1:08pm
Quoting kosmo
{quote} UPDATE: target reached Imagine riding it all the way down from $1200, scaling in along the way... Now, I wouldn't dare do it live (just yet), with the EA as unstable as it is, but I'm sure you get the idea of its potential once it's 'healed'... the rest is just a little awareness of pure and simple PA. {image}
YAY gold is doing what is was "supposed" to after FOMC. (why did it wait so long?)
You can see my explorer simulates what trades would have looked like with a perfect scale in, now 100% PROFIT.

But, there is no way of know when it will happen ( thelast 7 trading days is good case in point).

We just have to wait and snipe them.
Too close for pips, switching to points.
  • #596
  • Dec 22, 2014 1:25pm Dec 22, 2014 1:25pm
Very nice drop, finally away from that damned 1197!

TM closed all EA trades at +1% and have just reset
  • #597
  • Dec 22, 2014 1:28pm Dec 22, 2014 1:28pm
Quoting Thepipster
{quote} YAY gold is doing what is was "supposed" to after FOMC. (why did it wait so long?)
Why sell low (right after FOMC), when you can sell high... There was the channel support line in the way that price perfectly respected and bounced off of, resulting in the second failed rally. Then, it was romancing with $1200 for a while, confirming resistance, and then - hey ho, down we go!
mind over matter
  • #598
  • Dec 22, 2014 2:01pm Dec 22, 2014 2:01pm
Mine just closed and reopened with around 1.2% profit : )

@ Kosmo Nice Call!!
A good man knows his limitations ~ Clint Eastwood
  • #599
  • Dec 22, 2014 2:34pm Dec 22, 2014 2:34pm
Quoting dgodfrey
@ Kosmo Nice Call!!
Thanks, dgodfrey. Armed with the chart as shown, the strong dollar and falling oil prices, it was a no-brainer.

Glad to see your new settings keeping you in the green.
mind over matter
  • #600
  • Dec 22, 2014 3:20pm Dec 22, 2014 3:20pm
Quoting kosmo
{quote} Thanks, dgodfrey. Armed with the chart as shown, the strong dollar and falling oil prices, it was a no-brainer. Glad to see your new settings keeping you in the green.
gas is $1.96 a gallon here...
Too close for pips, switching to points.
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