NinjaTrader screwed up with Zen-Fire data feed | Page 4 | Crypto Craft

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

there is 100% free data feed for Ninjatrader or not? 67 replies

IBFX -VS- FXDD *Are we getting screwed? 25 replies

Problem with NinjaTrader and Gain feed! 2 replies

CMS Screwed me 35 replies

Beware - Order fill glitch screwed me 7 replies

Attachments: NinjaTrader screwed up with Zen-Fire data feed
Exit Attachments

NinjaTrader screwed up with Zen-Fire data feed

  • #61
  • Feb 21, 2014 6:52pm Feb 21, 2014 6:52pm
Quoting srt
I won't get into the cat fight you're having here but I've read a few of the posts lately. I've had Ninja for a few years (lifetime license). I've never had spikes when I'm viewing futures or forex charts but when watching ETFs (only very liquid ones like SPY, QQQ) large spikes happen all the time. It creates a crazy looking charts since it auto-scales so you need to wait until enough time moves the spike off the chart. I don't know if the problem is with the data provider or Ninja.
That is a well known issue with ETF data - I have seen that on Esignal and other platforms when ETF trading. What datafeed are you using for ETF trading?
  • #62
  • Feb 21, 2014 6:54pm Feb 21, 2014 6:54pm
Quoting COGnizant
{quote} That is a well known issue with ETF data - I have seen that on Esignal and other platforms when ETF trading. What datafeed are you using for ETF trading?
Interactive Brokers
  • #63
  • Edited 10:24pm Feb 21, 2014 7:33pm | Edited 10:24pm
Quoting srt
{quote} Interactive Brokers
Hahaha LOL IB is EXACTLY my broker who provided the feed to Ninja. And they used to blame IB all the time for the bad spikes that I was getting daily first claiming it's IB who gave them bad data and then blaming on the API but at the same time they refuse to fix the bad data except they just want me to buy 3rd-party data from Kinetics. And it's Forex data NOT ETF data that I was trying to get through Ninja. And like I said in my original post (Post 39 in this thread), as soon as I moved to other platform providers which also used Interactive Broker's data and I never EVER got bad spikes EVER except on 2 occasions which my new platform providers fixed right away.

That "catfight" with Bank Robber (who were temporarily suspended at one point but now reinstate but formally labelled as Commercial Member. Thanks FF admin!) was TOTALLY unproductive, wasted so much of my time but I felt I needed to do that so us traders can have a fair chance to get unbiased data. That BankRobber shouldn't have been here in the first place. FF used to vet these kind of stuff lot better. He, as I correctly guessed by his very first post, is a Partner of Ninja Trader. He designs exclusively Ninja Trader indicators (totally useless ones) and sells them ($200 per indicator) on his website. His company name is actually listed on the Partners page of the Ninja Trader website and he had the gall to list his own lame website on his FF profile. I had been telling him to stop posting and leave FF as soon as I suspected him but he just kept on posting blindly and pathetically defending Ninja Trader until I really called him out and shouted for him to go away and he finally got the message therefore resulting in those "catfight" posts, a total waste of FF's server space.

Anyway his posts and probably mine along with them will all be extracted. I already reported him to the admin. of FF. So this thread will be cleaner in 24 hours.
Make your losses in demo. Earn your profits live.
  • #64
  • Feb 21, 2014 10:57pm Feb 21, 2014 10:57pm
Quoting srt
{quote} Interactive Brokers
I had a feeling you might be on IB with their "snapshot" data feed. They don't send you all the price ticks and they take quick snapshots of the data flow and send that to you as data. That of course can cause issues since the feed is not true unfiltered data. To this day, I have no idea why IB can't just utilize normal unfiltered data.
  • #65
  • Mar 10, 2014 7:48am Mar 10, 2014 7:48am
And new problems today. Deja vu all over again!

If you moved from the non-working disaster that was Zenfire and settled on CQG you'll find that historical data for several instruments from crude to the S&P are not working today.

NT says they'll put the historical data back up next weekend.

This time it doesn't look like a third party data problem but a NinjaTrader local problem.
  • #66
  • Edited 8:59am Mar 10, 2014 7:52am | Edited 8:59am
If you trade with NT then go with Rithmic feed - that is by far the most reliable option for data feed. I have never had serious issues with Rithmic through two brokers.
  • #67
  • Mar 10, 2014 8:13am Mar 10, 2014 8:13am
Mirus/Zenfire used what data feed again?

The fault then wasn't at Rithmic. But people were still unable to trade for several weeks.

Rithmic knew it was terminating the arrangement it had with Zenfire on Dec 31st. Mirus / Zenfire knew this as well. The only ones who discovered the hard way .... were those mugs like me who were customers of those organisations.

(BTW, I have had connection problems with Rithmic. On several occasions. Each time ISP or DNS' routing or something else was blamed. I can't for sure say whether the fault really was elsewhere or was with Rithmic servers)
  • #68
  • Mar 10, 2014 8:58am Mar 10, 2014 8:58am
I am very familiar what took place during that time period and the broker was definitely the problem in that transition. Rithmic servers (not the servers Zenfire was using for the rebranded Rithmic feed) are the best by far as long as you have a competent broker. I have never traded with Mirus but I know of their frequent issues with various data feed providors.

As far as CQG goes, that whole data feed provider program was never set up right from the start. There were many aspects of that data service at the onset that looked problematic. It appears those initial problems have continued for some traders through some brokers - that is another feed I would not use. In 6 years I have had two days of data feed issues with Rithmic so I would never go to any other data source for my trading.
  • #69
  • Mar 10, 2014 9:05am Mar 10, 2014 9:05am
I use Rithmic and Kinetick and it works just fine.
  • #70
  • Mar 10, 2014 9:10am Mar 10, 2014 9:10am
Quoting fido
I use Rithmic and Kinetick and it works just fine.
Good to hear. It really sucks when traders have to go through all these damn data feed issues. Trading is tough enough but then data feed issues on top of that can make for some frustrating days.
  • #71
  • Mar 10, 2014 10:26am Mar 10, 2014 10:26am
Quoting COGnizant
I am very familiar what took place during that time period and the broker was definitely the problem in that transition.
We may be talking about different things.

I said:
Quote
BTW, I have had connection problems with Rithmic. On several occasions. Each time ISP or DNS' routing or something else was blamed

These Rithmic connections problems I had were discussed at great length via email. You couldn't possibly have been privy to those conversations.

Quote
Rithmic servers (not the servers Zenfire was using for the rebranded Rithmic feed) are the best by far as long as you have a competent broker.
That's entirely possible and I have no reason to contest it.
  • #72
  • Mar 10, 2014 10:39am Mar 10, 2014 10:39am
I was talking about the issues Mirus had with data feeds which many traders were discussing on various forums in the past - not about you and your situation specifically.

Also, The Rithmic "rebranded" feed Zenfire always ran on separate servers from all the main Rithmic feeds. Rithmic reps discussed this in a few webinars I attended in the past.
  • #73
  • Mar 10, 2014 10:44am Mar 10, 2014 10:44am
Quoting COGnizant
Also, The Rithmic "rebranded" feed Zenfire always ran on separate servers from all the main Rithmic feeds. Rithmic reps discussed this in a few webinars I attended in the past.
I'm not so sure.

I've screenshots of numerous tracert and other reports I ran when I was having trouble. They resolved to Rithmic IPs. There's no ping response, of course, for security reasons, but I have logs from my router as well. If the servers didn't belong to Rithmic, that's possible, but they were running from Rithmic's DC.
  • #74
  • Mar 11, 2014 5:46am Mar 11, 2014 5:46am
NinjaTrader have still not worked out a solution other than telling traders to wait for next weekend. Obviously with a big chunk of missing data indicators are going to be skewed and give out wrong signals so it's dangerous to trade with that gap in historical data from Sunday night/ Monday morning.

NinjaTrader are doing a better job than Mirus did of keeping customers up-to-date, and this data loss may be something that is entirely out of their control, but making traders wait a week to get that missing chunk of data is just not acceptable in my view. That is a NinjaTrader customer service issue and I'm not happy that their solution is a recommendation for me to take a week off trading.
  • #75
  • Feb 8, 2015 1:31pm Feb 8, 2015 1:31pm
I can't get on to the ninjatrader website or kinetick, is everything ok?

Any info on what is going on?
All Assets NAS100 GLD BTC AUS JPY GBP All Time Return: 19.6%
  • #76
  • Feb 8, 2015 1:57pm Feb 8, 2015 1:57pm
Quoting Forexia
{quote} Bankrobber, LEAVE!!!!! Nobody wants your pathetic useless third-grade indicators here!!! Take your snake oil business elsewhere!!! And thanks for telling us that Ninja Trader crashes too on top of other problems. At least when I was using it, it actually didn't crash on me that much except maybe only once. LOL NOW GET OUT OF HERE!!!
@Bankrobber
You don't know that Forexia don't trade, he just write. Forexia is a very angry troll.
Forexia be calm and catch a mouse.
  • #77
  • Feb 8, 2015 3:31pm Feb 8, 2015 3:31pm
Quoting Phil_GMT
I can't get on to the ninjatrader website or kinetick, is everything ok? Any info on what is going on?
NinjaTrader 8 Release Announcement being added to site right now?


Speculation in the nation!
  • #78
  • Feb 8, 2015 6:55pm Feb 8, 2015 6:55pm
NT made an announcement - server issue and site will be back up tonight or tomorrow morning.
  • #79
  • Feb 8, 2015 7:12pm Feb 8, 2015 7:12pm
cheers
All Assets NAS100 GLD BTC AUS JPY GBP All Time Return: 19.6%
  • #80
  • Feb 8, 2015 7:19pm Feb 8, 2015 7:19pm
Quoting Phil_GMT
cheers

MetaQuotes did it! LOL!
0 traders viewing now