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  • #30,441
  • Dec 14, 2013 1:02pm Dec 14, 2013 1:02pm
Interesting, sooo,
what does it all mean?

I like the "technical tool" the name escapes me, because it is indeed interesting to see how price reacts once inside.

But,
how is a "new moon" going to affect my gold trades?




Quoting amasat
03 December 2013 00:22:21 NEW MOON - Sun (10 sa 59'30") conjunct Moon (10 sa 59'30") 06 December 2013 05:41:35 WAXING CRESCENT - Sun (14 sa 15'42") semi-square Moon (29 cp 15'42") [url=http://serennu.com/astrology/drawchart.php?inday=09&inmonth=12&inyear=2013&inhours=15&inmins=11&insecs=44&insort=type]09...
XAU-XAG/USD_Gold n Silver Trader's Thread = Technicals, Fundamentals & News
  • #30,442
  • Dec 14, 2013 3:18pm Dec 14, 2013 3:18pm
Quoting XTrade
Interesting, sooo, what does it all mean? I like the "technical tool" the name escapes me, because it is indeed interesting to see how price reacts once inside. But, how is a "new moon" going to affect my gold trades? {quote}
this will explain much better
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article33500.html
&
https://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&rct=j...0e0_QU7drQLYLA

i do apologise for my english

this is one of the planetary trades
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  • #30,443
  • Dec 14, 2013 3:32pm Dec 14, 2013 3:32pm
Quoting XTrade
Interesting, sooo, what does it all mean? I like the "technical tool" the name escapes me, because it is indeed interesting to see how price reacts once inside. But, how is a "new moon" going to affect my gold trades? {quote}
Here is the importance of moon cycle and its effectiveness. Second chart is an old one. These charts are not mine, and is picked up from free section of a subscription site (link not provided to the site as I do not want to advertise it).

Obviously, there's no holy grail, but if a bottom/top is formed during a full/no moon (+/- 1 day), then the probability is quite high that it will hold.

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  • #30,444
  • Dec 14, 2013 8:57pm Dec 14, 2013 8:57pm
Quoting XTrade
Even if we hit 15.00 for silver and 1080/50 for gold, the next moves up will likely wipe out the last, if indeed history will repeat itself as it has THUS FAR. from way back when there were no charts.
I was getting the same are on my charts as well. (1080-1050-ish)

Haven't posted in awhile.. but still keeping my eyes open. Been trying to teach myself a bit of webdesign and some other spoken languages along with that. Along with being a language teacher.. Very busy during the school year. So, recently... position trading from the Weekly and daily charts.
Luck has no place in trading. Leave that for the poker table.
  • #30,445
  • Dec 14, 2013 10:17pm Dec 14, 2013 10:17pm
Quoting amasat
03 December 2013 00:22:21 NEW MOON - Sun (10 sa 59'30") conjunct Moon (10 sa 59'30") 06 December 2013 05:41:35 WAXING CRESCENT - Sun (14 sa 15'42") semi-square Moon (29 cp 15'42") [url=http://serennu.com/astrology/drawchart.php?inday=09&inmonth=12&inyear=2013&inhours=15&inmins=11&insecs=44&insort=type]09...
So, what does this mean? Can you give us some clue or your comment??? I would be more appriciate rather than just post like that. Tks
  • #30,446
  • Dec 15, 2013 12:40pm Dec 15, 2013 12:40pm
Quoting namaus
{quote} So, what does this mean? Can you give us some clue or your comment??? I would be more appriciate rather than just post like that. Tks

Further explanation would be nice.
XAU-XAG/USD_Gold n Silver Trader's Thread = Technicals, Fundamentals & News
  • #30,447
  • Dec 15, 2013 12:42pm Dec 15, 2013 12:42pm
"not effective"

and

"questionable outcome"

to me basically means - "well it happened but it failed" and "the expected result is not happening"
please elaborate.
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  • #30,448
  • Dec 15, 2013 2:45pm Dec 15, 2013 2:45pm
Should be an interesting, "semi interesting" open...

I really only trade NY open with London cross session at this point,

when market is dead and I am bored I scalp the AusAsian session.

When SLEEPING patterns are completely disrupted I trade from 2:30 AM to 830 / 9 AM --- EST. "new york time"

If I can accomplish my daily / or for position trading - confirm my direction by 10:30 AM EST I am done for the day.

Here is NY CLOSE FOR ALL PMS----

Oh and L O L

Now the "gossipers" are calling it "DECTAPER" = December Taper - at 40% likelihood.
Who is the FED kidding at this point - Just do it OR SHUT THE %^&* UP already.
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  • #30,449
  • Dec 15, 2013 3:15pm Dec 15, 2013 3:15pm
Quoting XTrade
{quote} Further explanation would be nice.
"follow up to XTrade PM"
Explanation as requested


The most important astronomical relations
Full moon & new moon this relation Determines direction of the pair for 15-days
repeated once every lunar month
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<
the second relation is Moon with any other planet angle is zero
Moon –xxxxx- conjunction


This relationship accelerates the pace of the movement in the markets
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
the third relation is important inverse relationship between the moon and any planet ,The angle between the moon and the planet 180 degrees


Moon-xxxxx- opposition

These relationships often reverse the trend for a period of time

If we saw the pair moves in a certain direction

inter against the trend
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
another important relations wich has nothing to do with the moon


(Retrograde)

When it comes , time to be out of the market because it will fluctuate a lot, but volatility will be in a narrow range​

another very important relation with the appearance
of the word sun next to any sign like Gemini cancer
etc.....
This means out of the market immediately without discussion , Because the movement will be very violent


another relation wich is Direct , And this refers to
the continuation of the trend


and the last three relations , in which less important and frequently repeated
Moon-xxxx square
Moon-xxxxx trine
Moon-xxxx ***tile
usually good for 20 to 30 pips
i do apologise for my bad english

  • #30,450
  • Dec 15, 2013 4:21pm Dec 15, 2013 4:21pm
Quoting amasat
{quote} "follow up to XTrade PM" Explanation as requested
I would be more interested in the mechanism, or how do the moon and planets affect the behaviour of millions of traders as the moon phases obviously do not influence prices directly.
  • #30,451
  • Dec 15, 2013 4:27pm Dec 15, 2013 4:27pm
Quoting amasat
{quote} "follow up to XTrade PM" Explanation as requested The most important astronomical relations Full moon & new moon this relation Determines direction of the pair for 15-days repeated once every lunar month
Very interesting Amasat, I am sure that Lunar cycles affect human behavior. I think we should make record how we trade during different cycles and find out patterns in our behavior... Would be more successful traders.

Good trades to everybody !
  • #30,452
  • Dec 15, 2013 5:14pm Dec 15, 2013 5:14pm
formed a resistance on 15m chart
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  • #30,453
  • Dec 15, 2013 6:10pm Dec 15, 2013 6:10pm
Quoting RabbitWolf
{quote} Very interesting Amasat, I am sure that Lunar cycles affect human behavior. I think we should make record how we trade during different cycles and find out patterns in our behavior... Would be more successful traders. Good trades to everybody !

I SECOND this as a great test idea and even PERHAPS a NEW THREAD!

cause FF needs some............

I am already on the topic. But, Gold and Silver / Cable Kiwi and Aussie are my pairs.
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  • #30,454
  • Dec 15, 2013 6:50pm Dec 15, 2013 6:50pm
ahead of FOMC meeting everything can happen.

please note the green dotted line, rejected 2 times upwards, now we have a consolidating area around this TL,
the upmove last week was rejected fast and strong below the start of the upmove. Currently below the TL.

In my opinion the downsiderisk is still there - 1180 - 1200 would not surprise me.
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  • #30,455
  • Dec 15, 2013 7:10pm Dec 15, 2013 7:10pm
Quoting thodie
ahead of FOMC meeting everything can happen. please note the green dotted line, rejected 2 times upwards, now we have a consolidating area around this TL, the upmove last week was rejected fast and strong below the start of the upmove. Currently below the TL. In my opinion the downsiderisk is still there - 1180 - 1200 would not surprise me. {image}
This is a typical descending triangle, the only thing needed to break into a new low area is a high volume move which is highly possible in this FOMC week.

To me, any price higher than 1250 is good entry for shorts before FOMC.
  • #30,456
  • Dec 15, 2013 8:05pm Dec 15, 2013 8:05pm
those of you interested in my long-running study on a single global currency will be pleased to note that it is now one step closer to that day:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9BE0FG20131215

EU leaders will try on Thursday to reach final agreement on agency for closing down failing banks in the euro zone, a crucial part of efforts to create a single banking framework for the currency bloc that would dampen any future crises.

This is the first step in Europe to a single banking system and then a single currency after UK joins Eurozone...

All eyes, however, will be on the U.S. central bank's policy decision at 2 p.m. (19:00 GMT) on Wednesday, just a week before the Christmas holiday. It is Bernanke's last press conference as Fed chairman and he is expected to stress that interest rates will remain low for a long while irrespective of when the quantitative easing program, or QE, is shelved.

"Right now if you look at the U.S., Europe, China, and Japan, they all look to varying extents okay - but they're not accelerating."

Which means might increase gold price a little?
You win, you lose. All else is history. The future does not exist.
  • #30,457
  • Dec 15, 2013 11:52pm Dec 15, 2013 11:52pm
gold is very2 sick now. almost dying. H&S are everywhere. since touching 61 fibo, gold could hardly penetrate the 0 fibo resistance. gold, RIP.
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  • #30,458
  • Dec 16, 2013 1:00am Dec 16, 2013 1:00am
Quoting thodie
ahead of FOMC meeting everything can happen. please note the green dotted line, rejected 2 times upwards, now we have a consolidating area around this TL, the upmove last week was rejected fast and strong below the start of the upmove. Currently below the TL. In my opinion the downsiderisk is still there - 1180 - 1200 would not surprise me. {image}


on anncmnt, of taper gold will drop,

THEN, that low if below 1200, 1180, 1110, 1080, are ALL GOOD long term position trading entries.

I figure FED is likely to announce this while markets are more quiet due to END of year.
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  • #30,459
  • Dec 16, 2013 1:01am Dec 16, 2013 1:01am
Quoting cheagil
gold is very2 sick now. almost dying. H&S are everywhere. since touching 61 fibo, gold could hardly penetrate the 0 fibo resistance. gold, RIP.{image}
GOLD is a commodity. Paper currency is "fiat'

neither ever dies.

they just range in respected values.
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  • #30,460
  • Dec 16, 2013 1:03am Dec 16, 2013 1:03am
Quoting XTrade
{quote} on anncmnt, of taper gold will drop, THEN, that low if below 1200, 1180, 1110, 1080, are ALL GOOD long term position trading entries. I figure FED is likely to announce this while markets are more quiet due to END of year.

this will be followed daily HERE on this very thread.
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