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  • #701
  • Mar 16, 2012 1:49pm Mar 16, 2012 1:49pm
Hey Jur (say JR but as a word) Jurr...

http://www.wave59.com/Home/UnifiedTheory.aspx

A preview concept of Earik's $3k book.
note on the 1st paragraph that it doesnt miss a turn or invert which is extremely hard to believe. or i just never seen such wonder.

pretty scaary forecasts on the ES down below on the charts. maybe its sorta gann-ish concepts of sniperlike accuracy but less messier charts

does such thing exist?
well i didnt know JR's wavy line existed...

thought it might spark a cool discussion.
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  • #702
  • Mar 16, 2012 3:25pm Mar 16, 2012 3:25pm
Quoting bumapatria
Hey Jur (say JR but as a word) Jurr...

http://www.wave59.com/Home/UnifiedTheory.aspx

A preview concept of Earik's $3k book.
note on the 1st paragraph that it doesnt miss a turn or invert which is extremely hard to believe. or i just never seen such wonder.

pretty scaary forecasts on the ES down below on the charts. maybe its sorta gann-ish concepts of sniperlike accuracy but less messier charts

does such thing exist?
well i didnt know JR's wavy line existed...

thought it might spark a cool discussion.
I have the book. Pretty expensive. I can't believe I forked out that much money for it. Anywho...

Unified Theory (Big Bertha) isn't based on time cycles but a general pattern or framework. X amount of waves in X amount of time. Like saying 3 tops and 3 bottoms in a 36 hour time period. The method doesn't exactly try and nail the 3 tops/bottoms ahead of time but you can follow a general guide line and then as they come in you use typical price/time cycle forecast methods to figure out the next high/low. It's pretty simple but also very elegent in it's simplicity. Sort of like Delta but actually works. Delta inverts because it's based on lunar cycles fit to trading time. Big Bertha doesn't invert because it's based on trading time.

You can read more about it here:

http://forum.wave59.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=5912
  • #703
  • Mar 16, 2012 3:29pm Mar 16, 2012 3:29pm
I've been combining my fancy wavy line forecast with Big Bertha to really dial in the major highs/lows. As I stated above, the Big Bertha framework gives a very general idea on where to expert the turns ahead of time. I use my fancy wave to be more specific. The two combined also help me identify possible inversions in my wavy line.
  • #704
  • Edited 3:58pm Mar 16, 2012 3:45pm | Edited 3:58pm
Quoting JR97
I've been combining my fancy wavy line forecast with Big Bertha to really dial in the major highs/lows. As I stated above, the Big Bertha framework gives a very general idea on where to expert the turns ahead of time. I use my fancy wave to be more specific. The two combined also help me identify possible inversions in my wavy line.
awesome.. must be nice to know how to code .. and study price and tiem for over 5 years.. gimme ur brain ill suck it with a straw

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btw do you make forecasts on price and time both?
like example: pound hits 1.6200 at march 1st.

well i guess u do with ur wavy line i think


thats what im working on now, trying to forecast prices at the times as i am looking at sensitive areas of the market based on price and time as sort of the magnet to attract that price to the certain time. i think the market does have gravitational energies to attract prices here and there, also somewhat relating to the path of least resistance. what do you think?


lets give it a shot... Guppy 134.66-135 by March 23rd. not a wild punt but ill post a chart if it does prove true.
if its one thing i need to imporve its price really, time hasnt been that hard so far.

ADD:
another thought.... i think u told me before something about time past present future something something ... and what i usually do is project time extensions to the future sometimes, but i thought hey u could do it backwards, and if u get a hit a turn can be happenng. i also thought of trading INTO the price and time, before the ball bounces on the wall it needs to move to the wall first, and i thought we can go to the wall and bounce as well, what do you think? or is that not 'orthodox' price and time?
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  • #705
  • Mar 16, 2012 4:04pm Mar 16, 2012 4:04pm
I really don't pay much attention to price. Mostly time. Well, that's not entirely accurate... I mean I don't try and forecast exact prices. I just look for when the market is expected to turn and see what obvious price levels are around and where I want to get in and set stops. There are so many good and easy ways to find price levels. I don't bother getting too complicated with price forecasts.
  • #706
  • Mar 16, 2012 4:16pm Mar 16, 2012 4:16pm
im exposed to time since october 2011 , started trading in august 2011 aug 20th precisely and first discovery of cycles/time in october 28th. impossible....

89 days .. 89 is a fib number.
89 days from my inception as a trader to finding time.

f-cak
that is so cool.
unreal.
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  • #707
  • Mar 29, 2012 6:50pm Mar 29, 2012 6:50pm
Someone PM'd me basically saying my indicators are a rip off and that I'm misleading with my work. For the record, my mirror moving average has been in use going back to 2007 and was inspired by something I saw in a Michael Jenkins book. Long before some other mirror moving average for mt4 showed up. In fact, I think there's a post in this thread where someone points to a link or posts that other version. I made a few vids showing how it worked and pointed out in that vid that I've seen other software packages with mirrored price lines but not mirrored moving averages.

The wavy line indicator I've been showing the past few months is NOT a mirrored moving average and, as I've described before, has nothing to do with historic price whatsoever. I'll show some screen shots later tonight showing how they are not the same thing.

So before people PM me accusing me of being a ripoff, ask me where my ideas and inspiration come from. Or read this thread and most of the time I've already spelled it out.

And no... as I've stated... I don't hand my work out. I'll answer questions the best I can without just giving away my hard work and research for free. If your feelings are hurt because I wont' collab with you, deal with it. I don't collab with anyone. Been ripped off too many times.

Besides, the best results will come from within you. Bumpa is the best example. I haven't spoon fed him a damn thing but he finally gets it and is tearing it up.

Anywho.. back to my vacation from trading.
  • #708
  • Mar 29, 2012 8:52pm Mar 29, 2012 8:52pm
Quoting JR97
Someone PM'd me basically saying my indicators are a rip off and that I'm misleading with my work. For the record, my mirror moving average has been in use going back to 2007 and was inspired by something I saw in a Michael Jenkins book. Long before some other mirror moving average for mt4 showed up. In fact, I think there's a post in this thread where someone points to a link or posts that other version. I made a few vids showing how it worked and pointed out in that vid that I've seen other software packages with mirrored price lines but...
which fugga said that??
jealousy i bet no other reason. or some usual "oh that cant work " kind of person. man if its anything its those long timers like JR that inspires me a LOT to do this kind of work. no free lunch from him, no free indies bla bla NOTHING. if someone is misleaded because of MISinterpreting his information its their own fault. if they cant get his indicators that HE WORKED HARD TO MAKE for free?? their fault. man people think everything is for free.

i cant say thank u enoguh for the continous posts regarding PRICE=TIME. that really set me free big time and explorations and discoveries were all over the place.

dont feel bad JR.
Btw what a vid on my thread u posted lol

itss ttiiiiime forrrrrr
SUPERMASSIVe ultra- enormously exageratted uber facepalm time..
http://fotozup.com/wp-content/upload...facepalm06.jpg
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  • #709
  • Mar 30, 2012 1:30am Mar 30, 2012 1:30am
Quoting JR97
Someone PM'd me basically saying my indicators are a rip off and....
They'll be asking for copies of your statements next...

Personally, I'm glad that you post in the manner in which you do. Often I get frustrated by not fully understanding what you do and how so. Your grid is a prime example, but rather than direct that frustration at you as the pm'er did, I use it to spur my research. Often it runs up dead ends, but only recently I think that I may have had my first "breakthrough" into the inner workings of time

I look forward to more of your frustrating posts in future
  • #710
  • Mar 30, 2012 2:00am Mar 30, 2012 2:00am
I didn't mean for my post to sound angry or annoyed. I just needed to point out a few things that probably got lost and set the record straight.

Hopefully I'll be back in the swing of things in the next month or so.
  • #711
  • Apr 20, 2012 9:05am Apr 20, 2012 9:05am
i wanna keep your thread alive. heres "fancy wavy line indicator "from my end.

still in testing period

if we move out into the future we caught some major turns with it.
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  • #712
  • Apr 20, 2012 9:23am Apr 20, 2012 9:23am
heres a 1min chart
that showed a live - call i made (to myself)

level was right - time was a little bit late
a little lag

hoping The Great JR gets back
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  • #713
  • Apr 24, 2012 8:38am Apr 24, 2012 8:38am
fancy poop there bumpa. i finally opened a chart last night. first time in weeks. i then closed it. exciting, eh? i'll probably start getting back into in the next week or so. summer's kicking in and I need to pull some spending money out of the ether...errrrr I mean market.
  • #714
  • Apr 26, 2012 8:02am Apr 26, 2012 8:02am
Wasn't planning on trading for another week or so but opened up a chart, set up a couple of squares for poops and giggles and whadda ya know.... a multi-time frame setup. So why not. I mean, if you came out of the house and there was a $20 bill sitting would you not pick it up?

1st chart is a 4h. Price showing osci divergence. On the square, price was right at the intersection of the 1x1 and 1x2. Might as well be pocket A's.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...26%2006.49.gif

The next chart is a 1h. Again, osci divergence. Price is also at the 6th time division line and 3x1. Price meeting time.. change inevitable blah blah blah.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...26%2006.49.gif
  • #715
  • Apr 26, 2012 8:40am Apr 26, 2012 8:40am
I'll retrace the steps on the 4h square so you can see how I 'walk' the dog.

First up is the square I had set a while back. It played out well and the end of square (EoS) was spot on.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...26%2000.28.gif

Then it's just a matter of walking it to the next price/time range. Another good looking EoS there, too.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...26%2000.29.gif

And here's what I was looking at when I setup the trades:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...26%2000.31.gif


I've mentioned it before and I know it comes across as cryptic, but it really isn't. Chart time <> price time. Or if you're a techno geek chart time != price time. If price and time are equivalent, and ranges of price are always changing then units of price time must always be changing. One way to get around that is squaring the range of price. Then the unit of time is related to price directly.

You can then go further than that and apply harmonic ratios or multipliers or divisors or whatever. That's what I did with the 4h chart. I came up with a good ratio involving Pi and it worked and then continued to work. I use that same ratio in astro things and works well there, too.

But as Bumpa has come to realize, it's not so important what the time periods are or magic ratios or whatever. It's about looking for where price and time meet and risking accordingly.

You could literally throw a dart at a dart board and use whatever number came up as the square period and you'll get results. It's not the period that matters as much as it is relating that period to price so that price and time are equivalent.
  • #716
  • Apr 26, 2012 1:36pm Apr 26, 2012 1:36pm
good too see ya posting, been lurking your thread and blog for some time now


always an interesting read
  • #717
  • May 2, 2012 7:44am May 2, 2012 7:44am
I'll be sticking to longer time frames for now. I'm just not really feeling it yet to be watching intraday. Anywho, I waited for the following setups to form on the EU Daily and 4H chart. Got in on Monday night/Tuesday morning and finally seeing the fruit.

1st chart is the 4h. An intersection of diagonals. 1st target is EoS. 2nd chart is Daily. EoS and intersection of trendlines. Not the cleanest EoS but still in the vicinity of a major downward trend line.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...01%2000.03.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...01%2004.15.gif

Here's the payoff for patience.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02%2006.16.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02%2006.17.gif

The 4H EoS is hit and would be a good take profit area since the smaller time frames are showing divergence. However, the Daily shows a lot more room to go. So any pullbacks here will be add-on opportunities. Locked in profit on all entries.

Here's my Cable entry. Nothing to write home about yet but it's in profit none-the-less.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02%2006.24.gif

The Cable entry was a tad bit trickier. I was waiting for price to rise into the time line, but instead, price rose right next to it and then dropped into it. I chalk that up to an inaccurate square. Because of where price is in the square I set a buy stop and let price fall into it rather than get to caught up in precision timing.
  • #718
  • May 7, 2012 6:45am May 7, 2012 6:45am
Quoting JR97
I'll be sticking to longer time frames for now. I'm just not really feeling it yet to be watching intraday. Anywho, I waited for the following setups to form on the EU Daily and 4H chart. Got in on Monday night/Tuesday morning and finally seeing the fruit.

1st chart is the 4h. An intersection of diagonals. 1st target is EoS. 2nd chart is Daily. EoS and intersection of trendlines. Not the cleanest EoS but still in the vicinity of a major downward trend line.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...01%2000.03.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...01%2004.15.gif

Here's...


hi Sir Jr.. you know cycle analysis is make me so crazy.. I was learning was so hard.
especially to memorize all aspects..what do ypu say.. please
I hope you still remember me... respect!!
  • #719
  • May 7, 2012 6:47am May 7, 2012 6:47am
Quoting arqish


hi Jr.. u know cycle analysis is make me so crazy.. I was learning was so hard.
especially to memorize all aspects..
I need your guidance Mr. Jr.. any advices or tips to recommend how to make it easily and fast to learn? plz
  • #720
  • Jun 3, 2012 8:29am Jun 3, 2012 8:29am
arqish, if it were easy it, it wouldn't be worth it.

"We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard."~John F. Kennedy.

But once you understand it, it couldn't be easier. Like reading music or learning a new language.

I suggest not learning the stuff in terms of trading. Learn it in terms of nature, music, art, mathematics. And then apply it to trading.

There isn't a single book on trading in Gann's suggested reading list. Why is that?
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