DislikedWhat? You think they picked on you because you were profitable?
That's externalization.. bad newbie, bad!
Dude, I withdrawal my profits on a near monthly basis from Oanda... My net withdrawals have far surpassed my initial deposit, so if they had any reason to play tricks it would be on accounts like mine.
Only, they haven't been playing ticks, not at all. They are providing a service that they clearly defined to their users and haven't stepped out of bounds of that while I've been with them.
I've used said service based on what they...Ignored
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- Edited 3:49pm Feb 3, 2012 3:34pm | Edited 3:49pm
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it was about you being a nasty human being in wishing people would go out of business for not meeting your needs.
It's just that YOUR needs are limited and you want to impose those limitations on everybody else and if they don't like it then nobody cares, Oanda surely doesn't, all while singing about being such a unique bröker that is fair and transparent and where all traders get what they truly deserve (even selling a book on amazon about forex traders' rights), things that the "other brökers" don't give.
Not saying this bröker is a scammer but its arrogance, deaf ears and rigid business model stink, and it's marketing strategy is pure hypocritical bullshit. Sure, it works and doesn't run away with your funds. But there definitely is better out there in my experience.
PS. I was not in loss by the time I left Oanda, so no need to give me the "you just don't like it because you lost" argument.
Newbie, LOL!
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- Feb 3, 2012 4:34pm Feb 3, 2012 4:34pm
- | Commercial User | Joined Nov 2011 | 1,267 Posts
No. It's not just his need.
It's just that YOUR needs are limited and you want to impose those limitations on everybody else and if they don't like it then nobody cares, Oanda surely doesn't, all while singing about being such a unique bröker that is fair and transparent and where all traders get what they truly deserve (even selling a book on amazon about forex traders' rights), things that the "other brökers" don't give.
Not saying this bröker is a scammer but its arrogance, deaf ears and rigid business model stink, and it's marketing...
Really? Did you really miss the whole point?
I'm not imposing my needs on anyone... you can simply chose not to do business with Oanda, and that's it, you're done.
The comment about the other poster's human nature relates to a very out of balance sense of justice where by he wants Oanda to go under (where by people lose their jobs) because they didn't fit his requirements as a trader.
That's all I cared to really focus on, that I found his remarks 'chilling' and very out of touch with a balanced sense of justice. It could have been about any broker (assuming the broker was otherwise not cheating their clients.)
Any further talk on my part was only in reference to QuadrupleX claiming that Oanda plays games with his account once he became profitable. That is a very serious accusation and since my own personal experience directly countered his claim, I countered his claim with my own positive experience running a consistently profitable account with Oanda.
Blaming the broker in cases like this (for personal mistakes, or forgetting about trade conditions that are a known factor) is a classic example of externalization. It's the hall mark of non-professional traders, because when you blame anyone/thing else besides yourself you'll never learn from the mistakes. Even if that mistake was picking a broker who doesn't offer you what you need... it's still your mistake, fix it, and move on. The more you blame others and the more you let the mistake keep happening the longer your trade performance will suffer.
But if you really think I was "blindly defending Oanda"... and you're so stuck in defensive mode that you didn't even grasp exactly what I was saying.. then that's just sad and I think this conversation is over.
If you, as well as the other poster, moved on because Oanda didn't fit your needs, cool, whatever, good luck trading wherever you trade at now...
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- Edited 6:10pm Feb 3, 2012 6:00pm | Edited 6:10pm
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I don't know about the "unbalanced sense of justice" thing. The way I see it he was just expressing a certain feeling for a certain reason. Like saying "I wish you the best of luck", doesn't mean it's gonna happen (i.e. getting the BEST of luck). Same here, people say stuff, and I tend to just focus on the reason.
But the way you just put it, well, you have a good point. I do notice this nonobjective "externalization" thing all the time and did stand against it before (even in defense of this bröker and even though I no longer like it). I guess I just didn't really care about that particular statement of his as much as for the REASON he said it.
Oh and I also somehow missed the fact that it's HIM who made the "newbie" post above, I thought it was someone else defending Oanda hence my reply. My bad!
Anyway, good trading to you too.
But the way you just put it, well, you have a good point. I do notice this nonobjective "externalization" thing all the time and did stand against it before (even in defense of this bröker and even though I no longer like it). I guess I just didn't really care about that particular statement of his as much as for the REASON he said it.
Oh and I also somehow missed the fact that it's HIM who made the "newbie" post above, I thought it was someone else defending Oanda hence my reply. My bad!
Anyway, good trading to you too.
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- Feb 7, 2012 3:40pm Feb 7, 2012 3:40pm
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just joined oanda today lets see how it works out 
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- Feb 7, 2012 3:42pm Feb 7, 2012 3:42pm
- | Commercial User | Joined Nov 2011 | 1,267 Posts
just joined oanda today lets see how it works out
be sure to check out Oanda's FXLabs:
http://fxtrade.oanda.com/analysis/labs/
Aside from all the normal great stuff Oanda offers, this is one resource full of interesting little bits of info thanks to the work done at Oanda.
FXGears.com
- #2,832
- Feb 7, 2012 4:44pm Feb 7, 2012 4:44pm
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- Feb 8, 2012 12:56pm Feb 8, 2012 12:56pm
- | Commercial User | Joined Nov 2011 | 1,267 Posts
Hey Jack.
I would like to apologize for my last posts. I really believe in what I said and I'm not gonna change my mind but who am I to try to force my beliefs on somebody else.
I can't say that I'm here on FF to make friends but I'm definitely not here to make enemies.
People usually use PMs to apologize, but I think that if you offend somebody in public, you should also be man enough to come in public and fix it.
So,again my apologies.
FXGears.com
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- Feb 16, 2012 4:23am Feb 16, 2012 4:23am
- | Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Trader | 1,152 Posts
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