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  • #421
  • Jan 9, 2012 8:12am Jan 9, 2012 8:12am
Quoting JR97
Just shorted pound. Scalper looking for 15-20 pipperoooooos.
This is based on price near the Lunar price aspect, the price line from the chart above and also the cycle high.

Charts later tonight maybe.
  • #422
  • Jan 9, 2012 8:39am Jan 9, 2012 8:39am
Quoting JR97
The week's price cycle forecast on GBPUSD including today's trade. No real clear pattern, but the cycle got me in and out with profit.
The price levels are based on applying the Lambert-Gann symbol to price around the circle. Not the same as the square of nine. Just price around a circle with the circle anchored to the low. 120 pips to a circle.

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Other than the references to your method, the thing that caught my attention in this post is the profile of your forecast. I have just started reading some Hurst based material in which compounded sine waves are discussed. Perhaps the methods are different, but the outcome is quite similar. Interesting post!

Cheers

O'
  • #423
  • Jan 9, 2012 8:44am Jan 9, 2012 8:44am
Quoting JR97
Just shorted pound. Scalper looking for 15-20 pipperoooooos.
Aaaaaaaand.... there's 25.
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  • #424
  • Jan 9, 2012 8:51am Jan 9, 2012 8:51am
Quoting One day!
Other than the references to your method, the thing that caught my attention in this post is the profile of your forecast. I have just started reading some Hurst based material in which compounded sine waves are discussed. Perhaps the methods are different, but the outcome is quite similar. Interesting post!

Cheers

O'
Hurst cycles are difficult to determine and then apply. With Hurst, you're basically trying to pull out dominant and sub-cycles. I've done quite a bit with Hurst in the past with spotty results. Part of the problem is that those types of cycles are static and don't last long if you don't get it dialed in right. I got better results NOT using a composite cycle, but just individual cycles. I also got better results shifting those around and finding the right nodal points so to speak.

What I'm doing here has absolutely nothing to do with price history and prior cycles. It's all based on a single number and the cycles spit out by that number.
  • #425
  • Jan 9, 2012 8:52am Jan 9, 2012 8:52am
Quoting JR97
Aaaaaaaand.... there's 25.
Make that 40. Gonna pocket those soon. 1.5415?
  • #426
  • Jan 9, 2012 10:02am Jan 9, 2012 10:02am
Quoting JR97
Hurst cycles are difficult to determine and then apply. With Hurst, you're basically trying to pull out dominant and sub-cycles. I've done quite a bit with Hurst in the past with spotty results. Part of the problem is that those types of cycles are static and don't last long if you don't get it dialed in right. I got better results NOT using a composite cycle, but just individual cycles. I also got better results shifting those around and finding the right nodal points so to speak.

What I'm doing here has absolutely nothing to do with...
Fair enough JR.

The book that I am reading has only been published in the last few months or so and contains code examples for a couple of trading platforms. My aim is to read it through then try and convert the indi's to MT4 and see if they add anything to the toolbox...

O'
  • #427
  • Jan 9, 2012 10:17am Jan 9, 2012 10:17am
Quoting One day!
Fair enough JR.

The book that I am reading has only been published in the last few months or so and contains code examples for a couple of trading platforms. My aim is to read it through then try and convert the indi's to MT4 and see if they add anything to the toolbox...

O'

What book? Link? I've got the books Hurst wrote and then bought the one put out by Trading Fives that comes with some program that isn't worth a damn.
  • #428
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:03am Jan 9, 2012 11:03am
Quoting JR97
What book? Link? I've got the books Hurst wrote and then bought the one put out by Trading Fives that comes with some program that isn't worth a damn.

The book is called: "Mastering Hurst Cycle Analysis: A modern treatment of Hurst's original system of financial market analysis." by Christopher Grafton. I am still on the first chapter, so to early to review. I have learnt a few things already, but I am way behind you on the learning curve....

As for trading 5's - I never bought their book, but that is where I first came across Hurst.
  • #429
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:20am Jan 9, 2012 11:20am
Thanks dude. I'll have to check that one out. Another I've got on the shelf but haven't cracked open is something about Channels and a Tribute to Hurst. Someone gave me that one to program, but I never did anything with it.

Some other good names worth googling for nominal cycles like these is Brenner and also Dewey.
  • #430
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:35am Jan 9, 2012 11:35am
Quoting JR97
Thanks dude. I'll have to check that one out. Another I've got on the shelf but haven't cracked open is something about Channels and a Tribute to Hurst. Someone gave me that one to program, but I never did anything with it.

Some other good names worth googling for nominal cycles like these is Brenner and also Dewey.

Thanks for those names JR. I made a start on Dewey before I picked up the Hurst book - I think it was Orion who first pointed me in his direction.
  • #431
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:42am Jan 9, 2012 11:42am
Quoting bumapatria
hey JR more questions on TP and Sl

have u ever took profits based on time ( on that Gbp cycle chart above i think u did)

how about a stop loss based on time , have u ever used that?

or does it not make sense?

to me it does for takng profit but stop loss is another story.

care to explain?
I have taken profits on time. Usually just a knee jerk reaction out of fear. Most of the time I do that "time" ends up being temporary and I could have made more pips. The stronger play is time but also price. Price can be support/resistance of any type be it trend lines, pivots, fibs, esoteric ethereal ephemeral values, whatever. That GBP short was based on time, but also price. Actually, it was based on price primarily but time was up so why not.

My stop losses and profit targets are based totally on price. 2:1 r/r or better. Time is just where I look to enter/exit. If I had to trade without time, I'd still be fine because 2:1 is all that matters to me in the end. Time just makes it easier. Not just but where but when kinda stuff.
  • #432
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:43am Jan 9, 2012 11:43am
Quoting bumapatria
JR have u tried using fractal geometrybut as cycles? i am not sure if they are possible but htere are popular fractals such as the mandelbrot set, the sierpinski triangle etc.






anyways ill just share this with u as i research its "validity" with price movements with time using this sequence and post charts later
Never looked at it that way. Nice work. I'll have to play around with that.
  • #433
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:46am Jan 9, 2012 11:46am
Quoting saeidhidari
tanks for answer
My question is: What book should I start for cycle analysis?
Draw a triangle on the chart on the principles and rules they want to see what the book?
How to derive support and strength of the Gann Square of Nine to see what my book?
I don't know. Most of the stuff I've learned and developed, I did on my own through google searches and just experimenting. I have bought quite a few books, but don't use much from them.
  • #434
  • Jan 9, 2012 2:26pm Jan 9, 2012 2:26pm
The exit on the GBPUSD short was a confluence of Gann Square fan line/time intersection and Price Forecast time line and ephemeral price level:

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40 pips. I wanted to add on at the pullback , but I'm at work.
  • #435
  • Jan 9, 2012 3:00pm Jan 9, 2012 3:00pm
bumpa is long euro JR

h4 view
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just lame ol bumpa trying to trade time hehehe
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  • #436
  • Jan 9, 2012 3:11pm Jan 9, 2012 3:11pm
very nice. I'd be holding my longs, but I need a better reversal pattern setup than what I saw this morning/last night. Good job, though! Looks like you got it right. I kept my trades to medium scalpers/smaller swings today compared to last week where I held on all week and piled it on.
  • #437
  • Jan 9, 2012 3:23pm Jan 9, 2012 3:23pm
i was away while gold was ranging - sad i didnt bank a nice 10 buck jump.
i went long at the time which was right but didnt close yet due to the possible assymetrical triangle to go up

but heres the setup it was a pretty easy fib bar counts stuff
and some natural gold vibration harmonic numbers



PS for the euro trade - we got full moon today - so i mean thats a lot of confluence and on that 4h chart i posted - price was wiggling at 161.8 ratio of previous retracemnent upswing . so the price was right to go long
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  • #438
  • Jan 9, 2012 10:51pm Jan 9, 2012 10:51pm
Quoting JR97
Below is one that i worked out on the dow earlier this year. It's been to the bar accurate if going back the last 2 years.

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Here is an update to the above chart I posted towards the end of Oct. Still to the bar accurate on the cycle lines. I adjusted the mirror forecast to a more recent reflection point.

One of the keys on this chart I didn't mention before and was hoping someone would notice is the action between the various colors. Magenta to aqua has been very strong. Magenta is coming up as is a turn on the mirror cycle.

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  • #439
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:03pm Jan 9, 2012 11:03pm
Quoting JR97
Here is an update to the above chart I posted towards the end of Oct. Still to the bar accurate on the cycle lines. I adjusted the mirror forecast to a more recent reflection point.

One of the keys on this chart I didn't mention before and was hoping someone would notice is the action between the various colors. Magenta to aqua has been very strong. Magenta is coming up as is a turn on the mirror cycle.
lets say ur cycle is correct - that would probably mean from a fundi view a europe crash or something IF price rises towards ur timeline.

well i got my multi-cycles too on the dow here
- and im hating this uptrend. i use a line graph to really tell if price rises or fall into the timeline as the bars give me illusions at times.

i think mine gives a buy signal.

i think my next cycle coincides with urs how many days is urs away from now?mine is at 11 days from todays bar count.

im going to start doing some mandelbrot fractal coutns -fib bar counts and other techs that could confirm a drop in somewhere in that time.
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  • #440
  • Jan 9, 2012 11:10pm Jan 9, 2012 11:10pm
update eu longs - added long on the rise back up to supply - to remove resistance from sellers.

and now its freezone to fly - i think..
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