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  • #2,281
  • Jun 17, 2011 2:55pm Jun 17, 2011 2:55pm
Quoting >Apocalypto<
Me personally, I would be more interested in the news feed for MT5 then MT4 as MT4 will be a thing of the past soon than later.

Seriously, FF calendar IMO is all you need for news.
Hi,

Sorry but euro currently is not driven by FF calendar but more by Moody's moves or politics comments. So the news feed is important & MT5 integrated news is more like FF pluggin's that are avaible in MT4 while lacking market news & comments.

Regards
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  • #2,282
  • Jun 17, 2011 2:57pm Jun 17, 2011 2:57pm
Quoting GoMarkets
Hi,

MT5 level II will be added to our MT5 after the roll out, we are at the moment discussing with our feed providers and metaquotes the best way of implementing and showing this data, as MT5 is brand new it takes a little while for IT to develop the correct bridges to show this. In addition to FX it will also help clients with index contracts when they get released aswell.

Thanks

Chris

Any date for when MT5 will be avaible? As currently you support don't have a release date. even for demo.

Do you plan to add other CFD?

Thanks
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  • #2,283
  • Jun 18, 2011 3:20am Jun 18, 2011 3:20am
Quoting nubcake
have you used mt5? i haven't. but if you also haven't then perhaps you are jumping the gun a little?

i hope it does not suck!
metaquotes and vantagefx have mt5 demos available. ibfx also, but had problems installing (it was forcing 64 bit install on 32 bit system)

www.metatrader5.com
http://www.vantagefx.com/vfx5setup.exe
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  • #2,284
  • Jun 18, 2011 3:46am Jun 18, 2011 3:46am
Quoting ybfjax
metaquotes and vantagefx have mt5 demos available. ibfx also, but had problems installing (it was forcing 64 bit install on 32 bit system)

www.metatrader5.com
http://www.vantagefx.com/vfx5setup.exe
oh right, now i remember you saying that earlier. cool cool.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #2,285
  • Jun 19, 2011 8:51pm Jun 19, 2011 8:51pm
Quoting fx13
Any date for when MT5 will be avaible? As currently you support don't have a release date. even for demo.

Do you plan to add other CFD?

Thanks
13
Hi,

Just to clarify our fully working MT5 demo should be available to all clients next Monday the 27th June , we will of course keep everyone posted and will really appreciate feedback.

Thanks

Chris
  • #2,286
  • Jun 20, 2011 12:24am Jun 20, 2011 12:24am
Do you really like MT5 platform?
  • #2,287
  • Jun 20, 2011 2:56am Jun 20, 2011 2:56am
mt5 it is definetly an improvement over mt4 in most areas, especially offsetting multiple positions at once. EAs will run much more efficiently. the downside is no backwards compatibility.

separate question: why cant the mt4 live connection default to DC3 in terminal? I am using vps in san diego, CA. The latency is avg <1ms to DC3, but whenever i restart mt4, it is always defaulting to DC2, which has higher latency. Why is this? cns says it has something to do with recent changes gom has made in server config. i was hoping gom can elaborate.

i can manually select dc3 after restart, but it still doesnt make sense.
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  • #2,288
  • Jun 20, 2011 8:51am Jun 20, 2011 8:51am
Hi Chris,

Go markets open currently 1h later in sunday. That's a bit annoying for watching gaps as gaps may be filled why we don't see that. I have each time to watch other MT4 charts to get the right gap. & understand more sunday interbank opening.

Do you think that Go markets may open one day same time as interbank market opens?

Thanks
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  • #2,289
  • Jun 20, 2011 8:53am Jun 20, 2011 8:53am
Quoting GoMarkets
Hi,

Just to clarify our fully working MT5 demo should be available to all clients next Monday the 27th June , we will of course keep everyone posted and will really appreciate feedback.

Thanks

Chris
Hi,

Cool & when do you expect live to go online? 1 month 2 month's? September?

Thanks
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  • #2,290
  • Jun 20, 2011 9:00am Jun 20, 2011 9:00am
Quoting ybfjax
mt5 it is definetly an improvement over mt4 in most areas, especially offsetting multiple positions at once. EAs will run much more efficiently. the downside is no backwards compatibility.

separate question: why cant the mt4 live connection default to DC3 in terminal? I am using vps in san diego, CA. The latency is avg <1ms to DC3, but whenever i restart mt4, it is always defaulting to DC2, which has higher latency. Why is this? cns says it has something to do with recent changes gom has made in server config. i was hoping gom can elaborate.

i...
Yes offsetting position in one main position mean closing many position ( same pair ) instead of x time per position x number of positions So it will take same time to close one position or 10 good. & I think they they improved the whole speed.

Only hope those bastards didn't improve the virtual dealer plugin!

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  • #2,291
  • Jun 20, 2011 4:21pm Jun 20, 2011 4:21pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting fx13
Yes offsetting position in one main position mean closing many position ( same pair ) instead of x time per position x number of positions So it will take same time to close one position or 10 good. & I think they they improved the whole speed.

Only hope those bastards didn't improve the virtual dealer plugin!

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Since MT4/5 is made for brokers, not for us, the traders, you can be assured the outcome isn't in our favor...
  • #2,292
  • Jun 20, 2011 6:41pm Jun 20, 2011 6:41pm
Quoting fx13
Hi,

Cool & when do you expect live to go online? 1 month 2 month's? September?

Thanks
13
Hi,

That will largely depend on the feedback we get from our clients and those testing it. If everything is running perfectly and we do not find any bugs that MetaQuotes are as yet unaware of, then there is likely to be a quicker launch. We obviously do not want to launch something that is sub standard, so we will wait until we are 100% happy with everything.

Thanks,
Chris
  • #2,293
  • Jun 20, 2011 6:50pm Jun 20, 2011 6:50pm
Quoting ybfjax
separate question: why cant the mt4 live connection default to DC3 in terminal? I am using vps in san diego, CA. The latency is avg <1ms to DC3, but whenever i restart mt4, it is always defaulting to DC2, which has higher latency. Why is this? cns says it has something to do with recent changes gom has made in server config. i was hoping gom can elaborate.

i can manually select dc3 after restart, but it still doesnt make sense.
Hi,

There is a very good reason for this. After some extensive testing from numerous locations around the world it was discovered that regardless of your latency to relevant the data centre, the speed of execution was defined by the latency between the DC and the main server. DC2 is in Melbourne and DC4 is in Sydney. That means they will have a significantly smaller latency than any of the other DCs including DC3. For example, as I write this our server has a latency to DC2 of 17ms, DC4 of 5ms and DC3 of 170ms.

This is the basic chain of events when doing a trade:

1. User connects to DC.
2. Order placed.
3. Order sent from DC to trading server.
4. Trade Executed.

The key point of information is stage 3. The shorter this step, the faster the execution. With that in mind you will benefit from connecting to a DC closer to our main servers (in Sydney). As with any kind of network, as a general rule, the speed comes down to how far you are from the destination, and it makes sense that a connection from Sydney to Sydney is faster than San Diego or London to Sydney.

We normally recommend that you let the platform connect you automatically to the best available DC as it will usually result in the best possible speeds of execution.

I hope that makes sense, but if you want more of an explanation, feel free to give me a call and I will explain over the phone.

Thanks
Chris
  • #2,294
  • Jun 20, 2011 7:06pm Jun 20, 2011 7:06pm
Quoting fx13
Hi Chris,

Go markets open currently 1h later in sunday. That's a bit annoying for watching gaps as gaps may be filled why we don't see that. I have each time to watch other MT4 charts to get the right gap. & understand more sunday interbank opening.

Do you think that Go markets may open one day same time as interbank market opens?

Thanks
13
Hi 13,

I do not know how long you have been a client of ours so maybe you were not around when we last did this, but on two seperate occasions we polled our clients to find their preferred opening time on a Monday morning. Both times the overwhelming majority requested that it stay the same as it curently is and I think the prime reason for that was to have only a five day week (in terms of MT4 charts) whereas the earlier opening would mean a short, one hour long 'day'.

Like everything, we always listen to client feedback so if it gets to a time where lots of clients ask the question, we will look to do another poll and go with the majority.

Thanks,
Chris
  • #2,295
  • Jun 20, 2011 10:27pm Jun 20, 2011 10:27pm
Quoting GoMarkets
Hi,

There is a very good reason for this. After some extensive testing from numerous locations around the world it was discovered that regardless of your latency to relevant the data centre, the speed of execution was defined by the latency between the DC and the main server. DC2 is in Melbourne and DC4 is in Sydney. That means they will have a significantly smaller latency than any of the other DCs including DC3. For example, as I write this our server has a latency to DC2 of 17ms, DC4 of 5ms and DC3 of 170ms.

This is the basic chain of events...
This would mean that getting a vps near to the main server would be the most ideal i.e. one in sidney or at least Australia?

But if we are stuck with cns (for now) Is it better to connect from the london DC? (cns) vs the San Diego DC3 (also cns)?

I can confirm that I did not notice significant difference in execution from dc3 vs dc2. But then again, my strategies are automated.

Perhaps for mt5 implementation, they will allow live clients and their own testers to test live environment first, followed by full rollout once stability is confirmed.
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  • #2,296
  • Jun 20, 2011 10:40pm Jun 20, 2011 10:40pm
Quoting ybfjax
This would mean that getting a vps near to the main server would be the most ideal i.e. one in sidney or at least Australia?
Yes, a VPS nearer the main server would likely result in faster executions.

Quoting ybfjax
But if we are stuck with cns (for now) Is it better to connect from the london DC? (cns) vs the San Diego DC3 (also cns)?
As I write this, the latency to San Diego is 172ms and London is 302ms. With that in mind you would probably be best going through San Diego.

Quoting ybfjax
Perhaps for mt5 implementation, they will allow live clients and their own testers to test live environment first, followed by full rollout once stability is confirmed.
This is why we are doing a proper installation of MetaTrader 5 not just a beta so that the setup and architecture will truly reflect what is going to happen on a live account once that is ready.

Thanks,
Chris
  • #2,297
  • Jun 21, 2011 1:29am Jun 21, 2011 1:29am
Quoting GoMarkets
.....
As I write this, the latency to San Diego is 172ms and London is 302ms. With that in mind you would probably be best going through San Diego.
Can you also give me latency to new york vps? CNS has a "looking glass" tool. I'm guessing about 220ms or so.

Quote
This is why we are doing a proper installation of MetaTrader 5 not just a beta so that the setup and architecture will truly reflect what is going to happen on a live account once that is ready.

Thanks,
Chris
.I know that MBT did the same thing for MT4. For those people who wanted in early, you had to sign a waiver. But their live beta was for quite some time: Like 1 year or so.

Quoting onu
Since MT4/5 is made for brokers, not for us, the traders, you can be assured the outcome isn't in our favor...
believe it or not, MT5 is actually much easier to integrate with all sorts of financial products, not just for forex dealing. MT4 was much more suited for dealing desk. All sorts of bridges and workarounds were required to properly integrate it into ECN/STP environment.

For a shelf/stock program for clients, MT5 will be good. If the licensing is reasonable, we'll see more futures brokers pick it up also. I can see MBT integrating all of their products under MT5, similar to their Desktop client. So outside of MT4/MT5 or proprietary desktop client, you take their API and connect it to your own platform. That's the ultimate step: direct API access with FIX protocol.

but for the cost (free for client), it's not a bad option.
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  • #2,298
  • Jun 21, 2011 7:40am Jun 21, 2011 7:40am
Quoting GoMarkets
Hi 13,

I do not know how long you have been a client of ours so maybe you were not around when we last did this, but on two seperate occasions we polled our clients to find their preferred opening time on a Monday morning. Both times the overwhelming majority requested that it stay the same as it curently is and I think the prime reason for that was to have only a five day week (in terms of MT4 charts) whereas the earlier opening would mean a short, one hour long 'day'.

Like everything, we always listen to client feedback so if it gets to...
Yep agree the 5 days candles are the best for many indicators as the extra day candle may get some indicators crazy. But regarding gaps it's not the best solution & I care for gaps.

Let's see for next poll.

Thanks
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  • #2,299
  • Jun 21, 2011 7:46am Jun 21, 2011 7:46am
Quoting GoMarkets
Yes, a VPS nearer the main server would likely result in faster executions.



As I write this, the latency to San Diego is 172ms and London is 302ms. With that in mind you would probably be best going through San Diego.



This is why we are doing a proper installation of MetaTrader 5 not just a beta so that the setup and architecture will truly reflect what is going to happen on a live account once that is ready.

Thanks,
Chris
Alternative solution to VPS is moving to australia Chris

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  • #2,300
  • Jun 21, 2011 5:38pm Jun 21, 2011 5:38pm
Quoting ybfjax
Can you also give me latency to new york vps? CNS has a "looking glass" tool. I'm guessing about 220ms or so.
Hi,

The latency figures I was giving you were from the DCs we have connected to our main server. Unfortunately we don't have one in New York, so there is nothing for me to test latency to. I would imagine though that if you were using a VPS in New York it would be slower than one in San Diego.

Thanks,
Chris
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