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  • #1
  • First Post: May 14, 2019 10:28am May 14, 2019 10:28am
If you look at the COT report for guidance in your trading, do you consider just futures contracts or do you look at the futures and options combined? Why?
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  • #2
  • May 27, 2019 3:42am May 27, 2019 3:42am
I think it would be best to look at both and maybe to have a look at the options only data as well

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  • #3
  • Jun 8, 2019 5:40pm Jun 8, 2019 5:40pm
Aye! Nice thread and TY... tryna get in on all dis risk... any calls for Gold?! Where da yield at?
  • #4
  • Jun 8, 2019 9:55pm Jun 8, 2019 9:55pm
Quoting mjbarr
If you look at the COT report for guidance in your trading, do you consider just futures contracts or do you look at the futures and options combined? Why? {image}
The open interest and changes to open interest are the real "tell" for this report. It implies confidence of large commercial concerns as to what/when they think the next cycle will begin.

When you see open interest increasing but at smaller and smaller rates from one week to the next it means the participation is getting saturated and large concerns are going to start exiting open positions.

Whether those are futures or options is mostly irrelevant. Everyone who holds and open positions is going to want to exit in profit.
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  • #5
  • Jun 9, 2019 1:09am Jun 9, 2019 1:09am
Quoting DonPato
{quote} The open interest and changes to open interest are the real "tell" for this report. It implies confidence of large commercial concerns as to what/when they think the next cycle will begin. When you see open interest increasing but at smaller and smaller rates from one week to the next it means the participation is getting saturated and large concerns are going to start exiting open positions. Whether those are futures or options is mostly irrelevant. Everyone who holds and open positions is going to want to exit in profit.
so .... institutions always need their options to finish ITM?
  • #6
  • Jun 9, 2019 7:11am Jun 9, 2019 7:11am
Quoting Cools81
{quote} so .... institutions always need their options to finish ITM?
Not necessarily...they can also sell the option at a profit before it expires. Exiting positions in options doesn't mean the always finish in the money...(this from someone who has never traded options). In addition, option positions is "implied commitment" it isn't an actual position until the option expires in the money.

Point being that the COT report (imo) is of better value when evaluating open interest and the rate of change in that interest.
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  • #7
  • Jan 2, 2020 5:29pm Jan 2, 2020 5:29pm
I've actually been wondering about this myself. I look at Futures and Options since its all-inclusive, but I'm not 100% sure that's superior to Futures only.
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  • #8
  • Aug 1, 2024 5:22am Aug 1, 2024 5:22am
cot report really work if you know how open interest works ,
  • #9
  • Mar 29, 2026 5:44am Mar 29, 2026 5:44am
Quoting Zee1021
cot report really work if you know how open interest works ,
how does open interest work?
  • #10
  • Apr 4, 2026 4:21pm Apr 4, 2026 4:21pm
Quoting chaxo
{quote} how does open interest work?
Open Interest showed pending orders but not executed yet, of last end-of-period. Example: if today you view D1 timeframe, OI showed you yesterday, not today you view the chart.
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  • #11
  • Apr 5, 2026 3:02am Apr 5, 2026 3:02am
Quoting etrade360
{quote} Open Interest showed pending orders but not executed yet, of last end-of-period. Example: if today you view D1 timeframe, OI showed you yesterday, not today you view the chart.
Thanks.... How can I look it up? or rather how do you look it up?
  • #12
  • Last Post: Apr 5, 2026 10:55am Apr 5, 2026 10:55am
Quoting chaxo
{quote} Thanks.... How can I look it up? or rather how do you look it up?
It's market sentiment, help you more to make your own decisions.
Example: You go to the restaurant, you see customers getting in the long or short line to get indoor, but some of them can leave because they think wasting their time. So at the time you've arrived, you can see how many people are interesting that restaurant at the last minute/30min/1hr... in waiting list. It's Open Interest numbers.
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