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  • Trump wants a deal with Iran but success of talks unlikely, Israeli officials say

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    US President Donald Trump appears to be determined to reach a deal with Iran aimed at ending hostilities in the Middle East, three senior Israeli officials said on Tuesday. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that they viewed it is unlikely that Iran would agree to US demands in any new round of negotiations, which broke down on February 28 with the launch of the US-Israeli war on Iran. Those US demands were likely to include curbs on Iran’s nuclear and ballistic missile programmes. Trump wrote on social media on Monday that the US and Iran had held “very good and productive” conversations ... (full story)

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rens7
Mar 24, 2026 5:44am
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You are dirty disgusting little anti-Semite looser
not only they are only max 16 million (compare to Muslim with over 2 billion) they contributed to the world economy, invention ,and every thing else far more then their percentages in the world population
just take forex trading and research how many of the most successful forex traders are Jewish
and regarding the current problem with Iran Israel has no problem with Iran its the other way around its the terrorist Iran regime and its proxies Hamas Hezbollah that want to wipe Israel and the USA the small and big Satan off the earth (and in long term the all west )
as the other guy in this forums mention Israel is in peace with most its arab neighbors and want to make peace with all of them and most Iranians want the same peace with Israel
its Iran and its proxies that try (and will fail ) do destroy any peace in the region
the whole oct 7 brutel hamas attack on Israel was mainly for that as Israel was in middle of closing a peace deal with the Saudis they tried to destroy it but they will fail big time Israel is still in peace with most of its arab neighbors
and peace will win
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The Doji
Mar 24, 2026 5:12am
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Quoting Marbas
fucking jews, all the problems in the world are because of them
List the top 5 problems you think were caused by the Jewish. They total a global population of c. 16 million (less than some cities); do you really believe your bile?
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Trader#2148
Mar 24, 2026 5:08am
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Lack of cash ? Congress did not approve 200B $ for Trum's war ? Or the banksters and capital funds get angry ? China clearly shows that not believe in quick war ending. This is a disaster for USA. Iran has nothing to loose and knows that lost, but this doesn't mean that they don't know that they drag Trump down and that's heir goal.
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OnlineAddict
Mar 24, 2026 6:46am
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Well, at least we know who is the boss...and it definitely isn't anyone in the US.
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W0lfram
Mar 24, 2026 7:24am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Well!!!!! Technically Israel as a nation shouldn’t even exist in the first place. Both in the Torah and Bible, it is commanded by the God of Abraham that Israelites must never rule themselves or have a land they call their nation due to their consistent disobedience & malignant nature. They were commanded to live in other lands under the rule of other nations and to be “good neighbours”. Their God told them they will never reach the promised land as they kept breaking their oath & spiritual contract. I mean it’s exactly why the Nazis...
A lot of horse shit in your head.

Btw is that you traveling on boat from Somali to UK?
W0lfram
Mar 24, 2026 8:22am — Edited
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} “No effort - no value” Hmm I see makes so much sense cos wisdom is seeking you but you are too fast. Go put some effort into using your brain then maybe you’ll have value and not be a racist
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Israelites must never rule themselves or have a land they call their nation due to their consistent disobedience & malignant nature
"this piece isn't in any known textual stream of the Hebrew Bible/Torah, including Jewish ones", - Google
https://www.openbible.info/topics/promised_land
Compare it with your 'unmodified' secret/original Bible. please report your findings.
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You are quoting the Old Testament from a version of the bible that has been modified to fit the narrative of the church.

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Their God told them they will never reach the promised land as they kept breaking their oath & spiritual contract. I mean it’s exactly why the Nazis got pissed and targeted them cos they were spread across Europe & the Middle East doing Jew stuff which made them targets of the evil of the Nazis.
Doing Jew stuff? Interesting. Can we name other groups doing their stuff or it will be too racist?
You idiot distort the nature of Nazi antisemitism... They defined Jews as a racial enemy and pursued their elimination regardless of behavior not as a reaction to specific "stuff 'they' did"

I;ll tell you smth you probably didn't know:
Hitler read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the notorious antisemitic forgery alleging a Jewish conspiracy for world domination. He was introduced to it in the early 1920s by Rosenberg and referenced it explicitly in Mein Kampf, calling it a revelation of Jewish aims despite knowing or suspecting it was fabricated

"Protocls" originated as a 1903 ruzzian hoax, plagiarized from earlier satirical fiction, but gained traction in post-WWI Europe amid economic chaos and conspiracy theories blaming Jews for communism and defeat
It influenced early Nazi circles but played a limited role in propaganda after 1933

Pseudohistory can be dangerous
W0lfram
Mar 24, 2026 8:49am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} 30k of their own people is crazy numbers ngl where is your verifiable document showing the number of people the Iranian government killed?
What's make you laugh?
https://www.iranmonitor.org/memorial
There are sources when you click on pictures

*Mr. Researcher ignored me already, please show him the link*
Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 7:31am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Well!!!!! Technically Israel as a nation shouldn’t even exist in the first place. Both in the Torah and Bible, it is commanded by the God of Abraham that Israelites must never rule themselves or have a land they call their nation due to their consistent disobedience & malignant nature. They were commanded to live in other lands under the rule of other nations and to be “good neighbours”. Their God told them they will never reach the promised land as they kept breaking their oath & spiritual contract. I mean it’s exactly why the Nazis...


That’s the most long winded load of absolute rubbish I’ve read in here for a while.

Here, check out what the bible actually says:

Ezekiel 36:24: "For I will take you from among the nations and gather you out of all the countries, and I will bring you back into your own land".

Isaiah 11:11-12: God will "extend His hand a second time" to recover the remnant of His people from the "four corners of the earth".

Ezekiel 37:21-22: Describes the "dry bones" vision, where God gathers Israel into one nation in their own land.

Jeremiah 30:3: "I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their ancestors".

Amos 9:14-15: Predicts Israel will be restored and "never again to be uprooted".

Deuteronomy 30:3-5: God promises to gather them from all nations where they were scattered.

Zechariah 8:7-8: Mentions bringing people back from the east and west to live in Jerusalem.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 7:40am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} You are quoting the Old Testament from a version of the bible that has been modified to fit the narrative of the church. Yeah no thanks
lol, it’s all in the Dead Sea scrolls dated 3rd century before Christ.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 7:56am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} And have you read the Dead Sea scrolls yourself, or you’re quoting text that was translated & released by an organisation? I’m not saying the text are false cos that’s all we as the public have in terms of accessibility, but you gotta ask yourself why are there so many different versions of the bible but only one Quran & one Torah? Why is the Book of Enoch not included in every bible but the Ethiopian bible that is probably the oldest complete version in the world, has said texts. Why are there omissions? Shouldn’t the truth of the...
The Dead Sea scrolls authenticity have been verified by secular archaeologists, Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars.

Do a little research instead of wasting my time by expressing some warped sense of reality you seem to be clinging to to hide your ignorance.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 8:00am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} And have you read the Dead Sea scrolls yourself, or you’re quoting text that was translated & released by an organisation? I’m not saying the text are false cos that’s all we as the public have in terms of accessibility, but you gotta ask yourself why are there so many different versions of the bible but only one Quran & one Torah? Why is the Book of Enoch not included in every bible but the Ethiopian bible that is probably the oldest complete version in the world, has said texts. Why are there omissions? Shouldn’t the truth of the...
If you had read the various versions of the bible, you would know there differences are mainly in their method of expression, not the content.

Some read as older text, while others are written in a more contemporary fashion.

In any case, the message is the same and mirror the ancient text found in the scrolls.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 8:06am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} And have you read the Dead Sea scrolls yourself, or you’re quoting text that was translated & released by an organisation? I’m not saying the text are false cos that’s all we as the public have in terms of accessibility, but you gotta ask yourself why are there so many different versions of the bible but only one Quran & one Torah? Why is the Book of Enoch not included in every bible but the Ethiopian bible that is probably the oldest complete version in the world, has said texts. Why are there omissions? Shouldn’t the truth of the...
Unwavering obedience??
You don’t know a thing do you.

You want to see unwavering obedience? Go to Iran, then see what happens to those who don’t display unwavering obedience to the regime’s interpretation of Islam.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 8:23am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} We all have some level of ignorance cos that’s the beauty of seeking knowledge. If we all already knew everything there is, then there would be no space for growth or to learn, it would just be stagnation. So I don’t claim to know it all, I do have my level of ignorance just like you too. But doesn’t mean that I’m lying or speaking with a warped reality. Cos it doesn’t fit into your reality doesn’t mean it’s false. Most importantly, I’m not wasting your time, you choose how to use your time by deciding to engage in this conversation ...
Well yes, what you’re saying is right. I got frustrated.

But compelling evidence was presented to refute your claim the bible says nothing about the Jewish return to their homeland, and squashes your idea that it just came from an altered version of the bible.

When you then still tried to discredit the evidence through nothing more than conjecture, and wandered off track by resorted to framing Christianity as a tool for demanding unwavering obedience, then yeah, I really felt like I was wasting my time speaking with you on the original topic of the Jewish return to their homeland, and reacted in my own way.

Sorry for that…
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 8:34am
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Quoting Trader#B915
Do not give in to their crocodile tears. Let them beg and suffer as they deserve for displacing and killing millions of people. Now they are bombing Lebanon, displacing another million people. They are starving the Cuban people, who pose no threat to them. Evil bastards. They are playing games with people's lives for legacy and scoring political points.
I totally agree with you on Cuba.

As for Lebanon, the Lebanese can thank Hezbollah for that.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 8:40am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Haha I don’t doubt that Iran has its flaws just like how America is the most flaw nation in the world every nation, every organisation/institution, every religion, every culture, every tradition, every single person and the entirety of humanity is FLAWED!!!! Listen my friend, I’m enjoying our conversation cos you are the most civil of those that I’ve responded to me on this thread. I’m not trolling you, I’m just enjoying speaking with someone that actually knows a thing or two. I don’t doubt that what you say is true, but your truth...
I’m not questioning everyone has flaws,(that’s a strawman), I’m just bring very specific in how I respond to what you have said.

If you want to broaden the topic, then that’s a much deeper (and very, very long conversation that may or may not go anywhere depending on our points of view).
It is 12.40am here, so I’m not really up for that right now, I hope you understand

I do appreciate the chat though.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 8:56am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} My apologies, I do digress sometimes off topic. I’m not gonna lie to you, I don’t use the bible as my only source of credible information, after all it is a diary let’s be honest, the bible is a notepad used by different people to jot down their thoughts & vision over 2000yrs ago. Same as if you and I wrote down stuff then people turn it into a religious relic & a religion thousands of years from now. It’s not false but it’s not a to-do list for how to live in modern society. It’s meant to be a guidance to relate to, the way...
I’m not going to discuss the value of the bible or its relevance with you as that is also a very long conversation.
Suffice to say, no I don’t agree with your notepad analogy.

The first exile of the Jews to Babylon happened before the Scrolls were written.
A number of the scriptures quote a return from many nations around around the world, not just one.
They were dispersed again by the Romans, but the return was in dribs and drabs and they never got established until the modern times Israel formed a state.

Discussing their rights to what they are doing is a very long topic.

Discussing the original idea their return is not mentioned in the bible took a lot longer than it should have IMO.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 9:38am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} 12:40am damn! Where you at Australia? My bad man, I understand you. I get that you are being specific about Iran and I’ll be specific about America & Israel as well. How many wars has USA started that has ended well? America doesn’t even treat its own people well but condemns Iran. America has one of the worse healthcare system in the so called developed countries even countries like Singapore & Malaysia that are considered developing nations are doing far better for their citizens. America fought a war in Vietnam for 30yrs...
Again, I never said we weren’t flawed, (you’re straw manning again). I was simply responding to your idea about Christianity being a tool of total obedience.

Don’t think I have delusions of some kind of western/US idealistic purity, I’ve never said anything of the sort.
You seem to be plastering me with all kinds of presumptions on topics I haven’t even discussed with you.

The only time I have mentioned Israel being at peace with its neighbours is in another thread (not in here). The reason I gave was that they realised how formidable the Jews are with US hardware. So on that, we sort of agree.

From memory, this is the first time the US and Israel have directly joined military forces in war in the Middle East. In the other major conflicts Israel have faced with its multiple neighbours, they have managed to look after themselves.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 9:48am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} 12:40am damn! Where you at Australia? My bad man, I understand you. I get that you are being specific about Iran and I’ll be specific about America & Israel as well. How many wars has USA started that has ended well? America doesn’t even treat its own people well but condemns Iran. America has one of the worse healthcare system in the so called developed countries even countries like Singapore & Malaysia that are considered developing nations are doing far better for their citizens. America fought a war in Vietnam for 30yrs...
On the topic of Nukes, the reason is Iran fund multiple militant groups declaring death and destruction to Israel. Hamas has it proclaimed in their founding documents.

As such, I would prefer they don’t have access to Nukes, but that’s just me….

Anyway, it’s 1.46am here now, I really must be off.
I hope you have a good day, it’s been good
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 10:22am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Firstly, I’ll quote you below; “Unwavering obedience?? You don’t know a thing do you. You want to see unwavering obedience? Go to Iran, then see what happens to those who don’t display unwavering obedience to the regime’s interpretation of Islam.” I know what a strawman argument is, and this is not it! I responded to your above comment about going to Iran to see unwavering obedience, which insinuates to me that you believe Iran practices an extreme culture that makes their people subservient to the government demands. And I responded by...
Are you serious??
You are the one who first labelled Christianity as a tool for “unwavering obedience” (I see you conveniently left that critical aspect out). I simply responded to this claim of yours with Iranian religious example. (In other words, I stayed on the topic that you brought up).
It was You who then broadened the topic to us all having flaws, and insinuated I thought otherwise, when I said nothing of the sort.

Please check your facts and the history of our conversation.
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Forgediron
Mar 24, 2026 10:26am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Firstly, I’ll quote you below; “Unwavering obedience?? You don’t know a thing do you. You want to see unwavering obedience? Go to Iran, then see what happens to those who don’t display unwavering obedience to the regime’s interpretation of Islam.” I know what a strawman argument is, and this is not it! I responded to your above comment about going to Iran to see unwavering obedience, which insinuates to me that you believe Iran practices an extreme culture that makes their people subservient to the government demands. And I responded by...
I’m quite sure you know Iran is a theocracy, so the Iranian example IS a religious example by definition.

i just assumed you would connect those dots
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 6:57am
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Quoting The Doji
"If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel." - Golda Meir
Well!!!!! Technically Israel as a nation shouldn’t even exist in the first place. Both in the Torah and Bible, it is commanded by the God of Abraham that Israelites must never rule themselves or have a land they call their nation due to their consistent disobedience & malignant nature. They were commanded to live in other lands under the rule of other nations and to be “good neighbours”. Their God told them they will never reach the promised land as they kept breaking their oath & spiritual contract. I mean it’s exactly why the Nazis got pissed and targeted them cos they were spread across Europe & the Middle East doing Jew stuff which made them targets of the evil of the Nazis.

So don’t let us sit here and lie to ourselves that Israel should even exist in the first place, given that they were commanded not to, and they literally killed & stole their current occupation from fellow semites (Palestine). If you don’t know being Jew is not a nationality, it’s like being Hindu or Buddhist, it’s a culture. The people residing in the land called Isreal today, and Europeans & American descendants that have mixed with other races & cultures, so they are not even as pure semites as Palestines that are being murdered.

Just saying!!!!! I’m not Anti-Semite, I’m just Anti-Bullshit
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 7:30am
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Quoting The Doji
{quote} Think your clever? Listen to somene who knows a thing or two. Ramallah, Mosab Hassan Yousef (aka The Green Prince) is the son of a Hamas Terrorist. He was captured by the Israeli's (whilst trying to plant bombs) and put in jail. There he realised that his own people were far more savage to one another than his captors. Try reading up on him, you might even learn something about Palestine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2CJ3DkRxo&t=2s
Yeah no thanks, I don’t do podcasts. Not gonna listen to some random person speaking about shit that probably can’t be verified. Being the son of a Palestine native doesn’t mean he knows best. I mean even Americans or Brits don’t know their own history well. Living and being from a place doesn’t automatically mean they know the history of said place.
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 7:33am
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Quoting W0lfram
{quote} A lot of horse shit in your head. Btw is that you traveling on boat from Somali to UK?
“No effort - no value”

Hmm I see makes so much sense cos wisdom is seeking you but you are too fast.

Go put some effort into using your brain then maybe you’ll have value and not be a racist
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 7:35am
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote} That’s the most long winded load of absolute rubbish I’ve read in here for a while. Here, check out what the bible actually says: Ezekiel 36:24: "For I will take you from among the nations and gather you out of all the countries, and I will bring you back into your own land". Isaiah 11:11-12: God will "extend His hand a second time" to recover the remnant of His people from the "four corners of the earth". Ezekiel 37:21-22:...
You are quoting the Old Testament from a version of the bible that has been modified to fit the narrative of the church. Yeah no thanks
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 7:50am
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote} lol, it’s all in the Dead Sea scrolls dated 3rd century before Christ.
And have you read the Dead Sea scrolls yourself, or you’re quoting text that was translated & released by an organisation?

I’m not saying the text are false cos that’s all we as the public have in terms of accessibility, but you gotta ask yourself why are there so many different versions of the bible but only one Quran & one Torah?

Why is the Book of Enoch not included in every bible but the Ethiopian bible that is probably the oldest complete version in the world, has said texts. Why are there omissions? Shouldn’t the truth of the word of God be available to all? Why is the church controlling what people can see & read, but ask for unwavering obedience?
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:01am
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Quoting The Doji
{quote} Ingnorance is bliss eh? That same "random speaker" has had more TV appearances than most, and spoken at many leading Universities including Oxford, but you wallow in your denial.
It’s not ignorance, it’s choosing not to listen to adulterated content. Podcasts are not my source of knowledge. I’m a research scientist at the highest level of knowledge (PhD), I do my own research my reading peer reviewed articles, documents that are verifiable and documentaries that have credible sources, not “trust me bro”.

Plus I don’t know if you’ve noticed of recent years podcasts have got a bad reputation of just inviting everybody & anybody to speak on topics that can affect many people especially the young which are the next generation of leaders & societal members.

Having millions of people listen to the likes of Joe rogan or Andrew Tate has done more harm to society than good. I’m not gonna join that herd of people that listen to trash from podcasts. Even if it was my supervisor, I still won’t listen, haha

Also being invited to speak at a university don’t mean shit I’ve been in the university system for the past 7-10yrs now with two BSc & about to complete my PhD, there isn’t anything special about giving a talk, we do it all the time. Oral presentation is part of the training to become an independent researcher.

I would rather go on scopus or Google scholar to seek the knowledge that is unadulterated than listen to a podcast.
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:09am
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote} The Dead Sea scrolls authenticity have been verified by secular archaeologists, Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars. Do a little research instead of wasting my time by expressing some warped sense of reality you seem to be clinging to to hide your ignorance.
We all have some level of ignorance cos that’s the beauty of seeking knowledge. If we all already knew everything there is, then there would be no space for growth or to learn, it would just be stagnation. So I don’t claim to know it all, I do have my level of ignorance just like you too. But doesn’t mean that I’m lying or speaking with a warped reality. Cos it doesn’t fit into your reality doesn’t mean it’s false.

Most importantly, I’m not wasting your time, you choose how to use your time by deciding to engage in this conversation don’t get all heated up my friend. If you noticed I haven’t uttered a single negative or derogatory term towards you, I don’t need to

Let’s just have a civil conversation, I don’t know it all so do you.
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:11am
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Quoting Trader#41F4
{quote} Now I see you understand nothing in ANY religion. You're just a bitter nutcase exploding with jealousy and hate like the RIZIQ fantasy hate clan go back to your jobs you are good with to clean toilets and we, Christians, Jews and Muslims will continue to succeed in peace you looser
Why can’t yall ever have civil conversations without using negative terms?

Clean toilets?!!! Where did that come from? Why so angry? Can’t make a point without insulting or trying to degrade someone else
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:16am
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote} If you had read the various versions of the bible, you would know there differences are mainly in their method of expression, not the content. Some read as older text, while others are written in a more contemporary fashion. In any case, the message is the same and mirror the ancient text found in the scrolls.
I’ve read different versions of the bible and to be fair you don’t have a point of it being mostly difference of expression but that’s my point tho. Why are there so many different forms of expression? That allows for adulteration

You know you can make a statement in multiple ways to mean different things? Right?

The message isn’t allows the same and also the interpretation of people differs even on the same statement. “Love thy neighbour as you love thyself” can be interpreted into multiple versions to suit the narrative of a person or people.
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:23am
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote}Unwavering obedience?? You don’t know a thing do you. You want to see unwavering obedience? Go to Iran, then see what happens to those who don’t display unwavering obedience to the regime’s interpretation of Islam.
Haha I don’t doubt that Iran has its flaws just like how America is the most flaw nation in the world every nation, every organisation/institution, every religion, every culture, every tradition, every single person and the entirety of humanity is FLAWED!!!!

Listen my friend, I’m enjoying our conversation cos you are the most civil of those that I’ve responded to me on this thread. I’m not trolling you, I’m just enjoying speaking with someone that actually knows a thing or two.

I don’t doubt that what you say is true, but your truth is not a universal truth. “One man’s food is another man’s poison”, America & Israel may seem like to good guys to you but are actually bad guys to a lot of other people, while Iran may seem like the bad guys to you but are actually good guys to a lot of other people.

True ignorance is believing you are always right and not wanting to see things from the other perspective. Empathy & open mindedness can solve way much more problems in human society than just accusations & generalisations.
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:27am
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Quoting Trader#41F4
{quote} Take your time and you should calm down start your reseach about religion clean with no anti jewish bais and come back after 12 month you will be smarter and ashamd on your old self
Yo!!! You need to stop being so negative, it’s not good for your health even though I don’t care about your health, you should anyways sorry if I touched a sensitive subject for you. I’m not anti Jew, I am anti bullshit and anti Israel propaganda. I will let you know one thing tho, I HATE religion it’s trash and doesn’t serve anyone any good. I mean Jesus was a Jew and he was anti religion, so……
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:40am
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote} Well yes, what you’re saying is right. I got frustrated. But compelling evidence was presented to refute your claim the bible says nothing about the Jewish return to their homeland, and squashes your idea that it just came from an altered version of the bible. When you then still tried to discredit the evidence, through nothing more than conjecture and wandered off track by resorted to framing Christianity as a tool for demand unwavering obedience, then yeah, I really felt like I was wasting my time speaking with you on the original topic...
My apologies, I do digress sometimes off topic. I’m not gonna lie to you, I don’t use the bible as my only source of credible information, after all it is a diary let’s be honest, the bible is a notepad used by different people to jot down their thoughts & vision over 2000yrs ago.

Same as if you and I wrote down stuff then people turn it into a religious relic & a religion thousands of years from now. It’s not false but it’s not a to-do list for how to live in modern society. It’s meant to be a guidance to relate to, the way people lived then is different from now. Also, when they say predicted that Israel will reunite, that already happened.

We all know how many times the Israelites were conquered but found their way back to Jerusalem, doesn’t mean they should become a nation with nuclear capability that are literally bullying an entire region with the help of a certain terroristic nation called USA. And yes, America is a terroristic nation cos they cos trouble anywhere they go to do “diplomatic work”, for example Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and so on
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:41am
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Quoting The Doji
{quote} The majority of Mosab Hassan Yousefs appearances are discussions or debates. He was also asked to speak to the United Nations and the EU Council - he is not some random speaker.
Fair enough! I concede and will do my research
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:43am
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Quoting rens7
{quote} OH yes terrorist Iran regime that butchers 30k of thier own people sending missals to their arab neighbors while Israel is in peace with most of its neighbors and Iran regime like you trying to destroy peace but they and you will fail big time
30k of their own people is crazy numbers ngl where is your verifiable document showing the number of people the Iranian government killed?
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:50am
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Quoting Trader#41F4
{quote} you hate religion and you think you understand religion HA HA i am not anti jewish HA HA back trading
Oh I definitely understand religion far better than you even will, haha. I hate religion cos I was born & raised in it. I understand both Christianity & Islam very very well. Both are trash I mean they have fought crusades to claim the land where the current occupants are mass murderers (Israelites). Is that the most foolish thing to do in the name of holiness & God?

How can hating another person for not believing in your religion be a good or holy thing?

“Muslims are terrorists” “Christians are sinful infidels” that’s just humans being narcissistic hateful creatures.

Practices spirituality and you will be free from the shackles of human doctrines. Jesus practiced spirituality that’s why he condemned religion. Religion is a doctrine not a faith
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 8:58am
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{quote} I’m not questioning everyone has flaws,(that’s a strawman), I’m just bring very specific in how I respond to what you have said. If you want to broaden the topic, then that’s a much deeper (and very, very long conversation that may or may not go anywhere depending on our points of view). It is 12.40am here, so I’m not really up for that right now, I hope you understand I do appreciate the chat though.
12:40am damn! Where you at Australia?

My bad man, I understand you. I get that you are being specific about Iran and I’ll be specific about America & Israel as well.

How many wars has USA started that has ended well? America doesn’t even treat its own people well but condemns Iran. America has one of the worse healthcare system in the so called developed countries even countries like Singapore & Malaysia that are considered developing nations are doing far better for their citizens. America fought a war in Vietnam for 30yrs killing millions of people just because they wanted a regime change and not allow communism, what was the eventual outcome?

Israel don’t have peace with their neighbours that’s very laughable! Their neighbours tolerate them because they know America and the west who love destruction will come to their aid. How is that Israel is the only nation in the Middle East that is allowed to have nuclear weapons?!!!! They aren’t even the richest in the region both USA & Israel are just as flawed as Iran, so don’t let us pick & choose when we point fingers, be unbiased. Israel & America have no right to bomb Iran unprovoked or targeted
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 9:46am
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{quote} nothing will help you to change facts (not even al jazeera anti israel /west propegana ) israel is in peace with egypt jordan UAE Bharain morroco and many more the saudis and oman are as will just not publicly peace will win and you and iran terror regime and its proxis will fail
Nah they are just publicly at peace cos if they weren’t America & the west would find reasons to bomb them & kill their people just like what is happening to Iran. Choosing not to kiss Israel or America’s ass leads to being called a terrorist nation & getting over 100 school kids bombed
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 10:02am
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{quote} Again, I never said we weren’t flawed, (you’re straw manning again). I was simply responding to your idea about Christianity being a tool of total obedience. Don’t think I have delusions of some kind of western/US idealistic purity, I’ve never said anything of the sort. You seem to be plastering me with all kinds of presumptions on topics I haven’t even discussed with you. The only time I have mentioned Israel being at peace with its neighbours is in another thread (not in here). The reason I gave was that they...
Firstly, I’ll quote you below;

“Unwavering obedience??
You don’t know a thing do you.

You want to see unwavering obedience? Go to Iran, then see what happens to those who don’t display unwavering obedience to the regime’s interpretation of Islam.”

I know what a strawman argument is, and this is not it! I responded to your above comment about going to Iran to see unwavering obedience, which insinuates to me that you believe Iran practices an extreme culture that makes their people subservient to the government demands. And I responded by saying, I don’t deny that Iran has flaws but we all do. But my initial argument was that the church as a religious institution should not be practicing such things. The church both directly & indirectly has demanded unwavering obedience from its followers for many many years now. This is not a topic of just modern times, there has been manipulation and/or bloodshed in the name of God by the church & it still happens in modern times.

My argument was on religion as a system not regarding any nation, you pointed at Iran as the subject of your argument. You changed the topic not me, I followed suit and said you can’t just point at Iran as they are not the only one flawed, America & Israel are just as bad if not worse.

Also, saying this is the first time America & Israel have done a joint military action is crazy. What about the 12 day war last year? Didn’t Trump boast that they bombed Iran’s nuclear enrichment plant also, after the WWII, till date the west most especially America have purposely armed & aided Israel against its Middle Eastern neighbours. If its neighbours were allies and so at peace with them, why are UAE & the Saudis helping to bomb Iran come on mate! Let’s not be shallow, we all know Israel couldn’t do shit without the massive help of the west. I mean the the money printers for America are owned by Jews, so….
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 10:06am
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{quote} On the topic of Nukes, the reason is Iran fund multiple militant groups declaring death and destruction to Israel. Hamas has it proclaimed in their founding documents. As such, I would prefer they don’t have access to Nukes, but that’s just me…. Anyway, it’s 1.46am here now, I really must be off. I hope you have a good day, it’s been good
Same, I agree Iran shouldn’t have nukes, but the real question is; should any nation have nukes?

Why have a weapon that can kill millions to billions of people with a few hours?

Isn’t that the true evil of this world? Believing that you can have a weapon of mass destruction but someone else shouldn’t cos they are a threat to you, and you aren’t a threat to anyone else?

Nobody should have nukes, if at all, it should be a joint operation where the whole of humanity has a single nuclear weapon project as protection against alien threats like a potential asteroid collision with Earth, not as a “don’t fuck with me button” against your fellow humans
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 10:09am
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Quoting Trader#41F4
{quote} Now you start with the old hate fantesy please join the RIZIK & co hate FANTESY clan its a waste of my time please send best regards to my good old muslim friends in london (goldes green area ) btw they hate iran teror regime and hamas propeganda more then me best regards yussef and ali
Haha da fuck you talking about!! I’m not Muslim, didn’t you hear when I said I hate religion that includes ALL; Islam, Christianity, Etc

I’m just anti bullshit and anti Isreal/USA propaganda. You can’t paint others as evil when you are worse
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 10:29am
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{quote} Are you serious?? You are the one who first labelled Christianity as a tool for “unwavering obedience” (I see you conveniently left that critical aspect out). I simply responded to this claim of yours with Iranian religious example. (In other words, I stayed on the topic that you brought up). It was You who then broadened the topic to us all having flaws, and insinuated I thought otherwise, when I said nothing of the sort. Please check your facts and the history of our conversation.
Exactly! I was talking about religion then you changed it to about a nation’s culture. Iran is not the only country with an extreme religious pov. Even within Islam there are many nations that have different pov. Malaysia for example if a Muslim marries a non-Muslim, the person has to convert to Islam. That is how that nation practices their culture & religious views.

Once again my argument was targeted at Christianity as a whole regardless of the nation, or how a certain nation practices it.
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KJW001
Mar 24, 2026 10:33am
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{quote} I’m quite sure you know Iran is a theocracy, so the Iranian example IS a religious example by definition. i just assumed you would connect those dots
I know what theocracy is and how it works, at the end of the day it is still a system of governance like democracy or communism. Using religion has the basis for a state is not a problem, the problem is when it becomes toxic & too extreme that it massively affects lives both internally & externally that it becomes a problem. Which I agree Iran is bordering on becoming an international problem if they become armed with nuclear weapons, so I support America in that sense, but it’s hypocrisy to own a weapon & aim it at others then complain that they wanna do the same
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The Doji
Mar 24, 2026 6:07am
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"If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel." - Golda Meir
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The Doji
Mar 24, 2026 7:22am — Edited
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{quote} Well!!!!! Technically Israel as a nation shouldn’t even exist in the first place. Both in the Torah and Bible, it is commanded by the God of Abraham that Israelites must never rule themselves or have a land they call their nation due to their consistent disobedience & malignant nature. They were commanded to live in other lands under the rule of other nations and to be “good neighbours”. Their God told them they will never reach the promised land as they kept breaking their oath & spiritual contract. I mean it’s exactly why the Nazis...
Think your clever? Listen to someone who knows a thing or two. Mosab Hassan Yousef (aka The Green Prince) is the son of a Hamas Terrorist. He was captured by the Israeli's (whilst trying to plant bombs) and put in jail. There he realised that his own people were far more savage to one another than his captors. Try reading up on him, you might even learn something about Palestine.
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The Doji
Mar 24, 2026 7:47am
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{quote} Yeah no thanks, I don’t do podcasts. Not gonna listen to some random person speaking about shit that probably can’t be verified. Being the son of a Palestine native doesn’t mean he knows best. I mean even Americans or Brits don’t know their own history well. Living and being from a place doesn’t automatically mean they know the history of said place.
Ingnorance is bliss eh? That same "random speaker" has had more TV appearances than most, and spoken at many leading Universities including Oxford, but you wallow in your denial.
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The Doji
Mar 24, 2026 8:25am
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{quote} It’s not ignorance, it’s choosing not to listen to adulterated content. Podcasts are not my source of knowledge. I’m a research scientist at the highest level of knowledge (PhD), I do my own research my reading peer reviewed articles, documents that are verifiable and documentaries that have credible sources, not “trust me bro”. Plus I don’t know if you’ve noticed of recent years podcasts have got a bad reputation of just inviting everybody & anybody to speak on topics that can affect many people especially the young which are the next...
The majority of Mosab Hassan Yousefs appearances are discussions or debates. He was also asked to speak to the United Nations and the EU Council - he is not some random speaker.
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Trader#B915
Mar 24, 2026 8:28am
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Do not give in to their crocodile tears. Let them beg and suffer as they deserve for displacing and killing millions of people. Now they are bombing Lebanon, displacing another million people. They are starving the Cuban people, who pose no threat to them. Evil bastards. They are playing games with people's lives for legacy and scoring political points.
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rens7
Mar 24, 2026 8:04am
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{quote} And have you read the Dead Sea scrolls yourself, or you’re quoting text that was translated & released by an organisation? I’m not saying the text are false cos that’s all we as the public have in terms of accessibility, but you gotta ask yourself why are there so many different versions of the bible but only one Quran & one Torah? Why is the Book of Enoch not included in every bible but the Ethiopian bible that is probably the oldest complete version in the world, has said texts. Why are there omissions? Shouldn’t the truth of the...
Reading your comments i will not waste my time to argue with you logic as your knowledge is so twisted and fake and full of hate
and it seems your IQ is -10
as the other guy commented just go back and clean toilets you might be good with that
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rens7
Mar 24, 2026 8:29am
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{quote} Haha I don’t doubt that Iran has its flaws just like how America is the most flaw nation in the world every nation, every organisation/institution, every religion, every culture, every tradition, every single person and the entirety of humanity is FLAWED!!!! Listen my friend, I’m enjoying our conversation cos you are the most civil of those that I’ve responded to me on this thread. I’m not trolling you, I’m just enjoying speaking with someone that actually knows a thing or two. I don’t doubt that what you say is true, but your truth...
OH yes terrorist Iran regime that butchers 30k of thier own people sending missals to their arab neighbors
while Israel is in peace with most of its neighbors and Iran regime like you trying to destroy peace
but they and you will fail big time
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Ahmedskaf
Mar 24, 2026 4:43am
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Has the fate of the Middle East fallen into the hands of a few fools who know only the words "We will destroy," "We will triumph," "Peace," and "We will eliminate"? Why doesn't each country mind its own business? This situation has become excessive. You have brought chaos, destruction, loss of life, and material losses. The benefit of this war: nothing but a stench
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Gold-scalpe
Mar 24, 2026 5:11am
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How?
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Trader#75B8
Mar 24, 2026 5:15am
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Who would talk to you, a murderer?
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Beliver29
Mar 24, 2026 6:32am
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It's bad.
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 7:36am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Well!!!!! Technically Israel as a nation shouldn’t even exist in the first place. Both in the Torah and Bible, it is commanded by the God of Abraham that Israelites must never rule themselves or have a land they call their nation due to their consistent disobedience & malignant nature. They were commanded to live in other lands under the rule of other nations and to be “good neighbours”. Their God told them they will never reach the promised land as they kept breaking their oath & spiritual contract. I mean it’s exactly why the Nazis...
I never in my life heard such a stupid false fake joke
you understand in judaism like i understand in mongolia
you know nothing or better you're knowlgae is completely twisted with lies and false information
so stay quiet antisemate looser
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Trader#75E8
Mar 24, 2026 7:43am
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{quote} You are quoting the Old Testament from a version of the bible that has been modified to fit the narrative of the church. Yeah no thanks
YES
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 7:49am
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{quote} You are quoting the Old Testament from a version of the bible that has been modified to fit the narrative of the church. Yeah no thanks
Now I see you understand nothing in ANY religion. You're just a bitter nutcase exploding with jealousy and hate
like the RIZIQ fantasy hate clan go back to your jobs you are good with to clean toilets
and we, Christians, Jews and Muslims will continue to succeed in peace
you looser
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 8:18am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Why can’t yall ever have civil conversations without using negative terms? Clean toilets?!!! Where did that come from? Why so angry? Can’t make a point without insulting or trying to degrade someone else
Take your time and you should calm down
start your reseach about religion clean with no anti jewish bais and come back after 12 month you will be smarter and ashamd on your old self
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 8:36am
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{quote} Yo!!! You need to stop being so negative, it’s not good for your health even though I don’t care about your health, you should anyways sorry if I touched a sensitive subject for you. I’m not anti Jew, I am anti bullshit and anti Israel propaganda. I will let you know one thing tho, I HATE religion it’s trash and doesn’t serve anyone any good. I mean Jesus was a Jew and he was anti religion, so……
you hate religion and you think you understand religion HA HA
i am not anti jewish HA HA
back trading
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Trader#B915
Mar 24, 2026 8:54am
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Do not open that Strait to the dollar. Sell your oil and gas in the currency you want, not what the American gangsters want. And fuck yeah, charge them to pass through your waters. They had it good enough and didn't appreciate it. They wanted more and more. Now you pay for it, mother fuckers, just like everyone else.
You want to pass through, fuck you, pay me. If you charge just a 10% fee on everything that goes through over five years, Iran will be the richest country in the Middle East—no more negotiations with these terrorists in Tel Aviv and Washington.
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 9:33am
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{quote} 12:40am damn! Where you at Australia? My bad man, I understand you. I get that you are being specific about Iran and I’ll be specific about America & Israel as well. How many wars has USA started that has ended well? America doesn’t even treat its own people well but condemns Iran. America has one of the worse healthcare system in the so called developed countries even countries like Singapore & Malaysia that are considered developing nations are doing far better for their citizens. America fought a war in Vietnam for 30yrs...
nothing will help you to change facts (not even al jazeera anti israel /west propegana ) israel is in peace with egypt jordan UAE Bharain morroco and many more the saudis and oman are as will just not publicly
peace will win and you and iran terror regime and its proxis will fail
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 9:53am
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Quoting KJW001
{quote} Nah they are just publicly at peace cos if they weren’t America & the west would find reasons to bomb them & kill their people just like what is happening to Iran. Choosing not to kiss Israel or America’s ass leads to being called a terrorist nation & getting over 100 school kids bombed
Now you start with the old hate fantesy please join the RIZIK & co hate FANTESY clan its a waste of my time
please send best regards to my good old muslim friends in london (goldes green area ) btw they hate iran teror regime and hamas propeganda more then me
best regards yussef and ali
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Trader#3EC1
Mar 24, 2026 8:21pm
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Quoting Forgediron
{quote} Thats the most long winded load of absolute rubbish Ive read in here for a while. Here, check out what the bible actually says: Ezekiel 36:24: "For I will take you from among the nations and gather you out of all the countries, and I will bring you back into your own land". Isaiah 11:11-12: God will "extend His hand a second time" to recover the remnant of His people from the "four corners of the earth". Ezekiel 37:21-22:...
Why are they making such a fuss over a meaningless novel that is nothing but fantasy...
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Trader#7F1B
Mar 24, 2026 5:34am
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All the problems are caused by the hatred of them
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Trader#41F4
Mar 24, 2026 8:19am
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now back to trading
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Trader#B915
Mar 24, 2026 8:21am
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Do not open that Strait.
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