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  • #50,981
  • Sep 7, 2025 1:48pm Sep 7, 2025 1:48pm
Quoting Spearion
{quote} that is exactly what it means ..
Agreed. So in regard to the last TE screen shot above, would it be a good, educated guess in saying that as of today, in order to Break Even, another $2449 profit needs to be made?

So before the $1749 profit ($2749-$1k) was made on the $1k account re-balance, $2449 + $1749 = $4198 profit was needed to Break Even right?

If all this is true, would it be correct in saying that the previous account balance before the $1k account re-balance and the losses was around $5k?
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  • #50,982
  • Sep 7, 2025 5:48pm Sep 7, 2025 5:48pm
Lol
Intraday only.
  • #50,983
  • Sep 7, 2025 9:50pm Sep 7, 2025 9:50pm
Quoting codemaster75
{quote} Agreed. So in regard to the last TE screen shot above, would it be a good, educated guess in saying that as of today, in order to Break Even, another $2449 profit needs to be made? So before the $1749 profit ($2749-$1k) was made on the $1k account re-balance, $2449 + $1749 = $4198 profit was needed to Break Even right? If all this is true, would it be correct in saying that the previous account balance before the $1k account re-balance and the losses was around $5k?
and this only in this one account . since years navk lost in so many different accounts too. that is the martingale fake story against reality. he is maybe the loser with longest losing streak in this forum and still fake he is a winner and he is dreaming about one day will win back all the losses of all accounts with a big luck streak.
  • #50,984
  • Sep 7, 2025 9:59pm Sep 7, 2025 9:59pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} and this only in this one account . since years navk lost in so many different accounts too. that is the martingale fake story against reality. he is maybe the loser with longest losing streak in this forum and still fake he is a winner and he is dreaming about one day will win back all the losses of all accounts with a big luck streak.
He had the balls to post many of his trades and account history.
What have you done besides bragging that the brokers can't fill your humongous trades?
You are such a pretend douche with nothing to show other than your humongous tongue that you use to mop the palaces of rich Arab sheikhs.
  • #50,985
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:06pm Sep 7, 2025 10:06pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} He had the balls to post many of his trades and account history. What have you done besides bragging that the brokers can't fill your humongous trades? You are such a pretend douche with nothing to show other than your humongous tongue that you use to mop the palaces of rich Arab sheikhs.
you have one by one same bad results with your martingale (a second navk)... all together big loser and you speak big words always until you bust an other account and restart your circle of creating account, big talk and busting, and restart and and and.... typical martingale troll.

you want to see my trades? really? did you never ask yourself why only beginners want to see trades and good traders never ask for this ? good luck with find the solution.

and nav has no balls at all... he faked and act as a liar all the time. looks like he lost his balls after losing for many years now with a strategy designed to kill beginners accounts. funny that for you a liar and faker has balls when he publish fake wins and fake stories (that is saying a lot about you!).
  • #50,986
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:13pm Sep 7, 2025 10:13pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} you have one by one same bad results with your martingale (a second navk)... all together big loser and you speak big words always until you bust an other account and restart your circle of creating account, big talk and busting, and restart and and and.... typical martingale troll. you want to see my trades? really? did you never ask yourself why only beginners want to see trades and good traders never ask for this ? good luck with find the solution.
You don't have any trades to show. You can't even afford a 1K account to compete with me.
Are you a foreign domestic worker in UAE?
I've heard the working conditions are similar to slavery in your field.
  • #50,987
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:21pm Sep 7, 2025 10:21pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} You don't have any trades to show. You can't even afford a 1K account to compete with me. Are you a foreign domestic worker in UAE? I've heard the working conditions are similar to slavery in your field.
a loser want compete! you are a waste of time, but as trading clown from this forum sometimes funny.

i wish you good luck in your weekly gambling without any chance to compensate for your big losses you already had with this. lets go.... never stop it... you are number one
  • #50,988
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:26pm Sep 7, 2025 10:26pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} a loser want compete! you are a waste of time, but as trading clown from this forum sometimes funny. i wish you good luck in your weekly gambling without any chance to compensate for your big losses you already had with this. lets go.... never stop it... you are number one
Still no balls?
Since you can't afford 1K, I'll send you $100 so you can open a cent account and compete with me. Accept?
  • #50,989
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:27pm Sep 7, 2025 10:27pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} You don't have any trades to show. You can't even afford a 1K account to compete with me. Are you a foreign domestic worker in UAE? I've heard the working conditions are similar to slavery in your field.
Yes, he is foreign domestic..and worker class.

I know only executive level in UAE, and that is why his posts are below standard
Intraday only.
  • #50,990
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:34pm Sep 7, 2025 10:34pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Yes, he is foreign domestic..and worker class. I know only executive level in UAE, and that is why his posts are below standard
Being dehumanised is what a wretched life of slavery does to a person.
He is certainly displaying the symptoms of life long abuse.
I hope that with his incredible trading skills and my $100 donation, he can finally turn things around for himself.
  • #50,991
  • Sep 7, 2025 10:45pm Sep 7, 2025 10:45pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Being dehumanised is what a wretched life of slavery does to a person. He is certainly displaying the symptoms of life long abuse. I hope that with his incredible trading skills and my $100 donation, he can finally turn things around for himself.
Intraday only.
  • #50,992
  • Sep 8, 2025 12:33am Sep 8, 2025 12:33am
Quoting Masterrmind
PROP FIRM HUB Real traders discussion about Prop Firm activity. Traders may post their attempts at gaining a funded account. Traders may discuss the pros and cons of various prop trading firms. All discussion that is inline with thread title is welcome. Keep it civil here guys and let's sort the real from the myth. Traders showing TE’s of challenges and verifications should be cheered on and not discouraged. Traders can show or hide their TE’s at their preference without ridicule from other thread participants. Traders who show their TE’s or post...
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  • #50,993
  • Sep 8, 2025 1:17am Sep 8, 2025 1:17am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Being dehumanised is what a wretched life of slavery does to a person. He is certainly displaying the symptoms of life long abuse. I hope that with his incredible trading skills and my $100 donation, he can finally turn things around for himself.
funny, that losers always get personal when have no arguments. navk and you are 2 hot brothers in love, both faking and act as liars.. and you both are all time losers in this forum, same time telling other people you are good traders with experience and using most easy beginner losing strategies as trading clowns.

at least you both act as bad examples in this forum for a good reason, so people can learn what can happen when you dont want learn theory and how it will end when personality gets down because of endless losses over decades. so you do all this downhill running livestyle not without a good effect on the end, at least lets hope people learn to avoid end like this.
  • #50,994
  • Sep 8, 2025 1:28am Sep 8, 2025 1:28am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} funny, that losers always get personal when have no arguments. navk and you are 2 hot brothers in love, both faking and act as liars.. and you both are all time losers in this forum, same time telling other people you are good traders with experience and using most easy beginner losing strategies as trading clowns. at least you both act as bad examples in this forum for a good reason, so people can learn what can happen when you dont want learn theory and how it will end when personality gets down because of endless losses over decades....
Come on $100 donated for you to become a credible dweeb. Take it man. Don't you guys in UAE like free oil, gifts, inheritance and such?

BTW, I'd never challenge Navk to a trading contest cause he is good. I prob wouldn't be able to beat him (easily).
  • #50,995
  • Sep 8, 2025 1:48am Sep 8, 2025 1:48am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} funny, that losers always get personal when have no arguments. navk and you are 2 hot brothers in love, both faking and act as liars.. and you both are all time losers in this forum, same time telling other people you are good traders with experience and using most easy beginner losing strategies as trading clowns. at least you both act as bad examples in this forum for a good reason, so people can learn what can happen when you dont want learn theory and how it will end when personality gets down because of endless losses over decades....
Below is a description of Martingale.
That's around the same theory that they teach in schools. It is a theory description that occupies the 2 page space under the heading Martingale.
That's even how the quants are educated.

I'd have everything to lose. Right? Everything is predestined to go against me.
I'd be an easy target to beat. Correct?
So, what have you to lose? Anyone should be able to beat a martingale trader.


AI Overview
The Martingale theory proposes that by doubling the size of a trading position after every loss, a single subsequent win will recover all previous losses and generate a profit equal to the original stake. This betting system relies on the assumption that a win is always inevitable, regardless of the market's current direction. However, this strategy is highly risky in real-world trading because it requires unlimited capital and no betting limits to guarantee a profit, making it unsustainable and potentially leading to catastrophic losses for traders with finite resources.
How the Martingale System Works

  1. Initial Trade: Place a small, initial trade with a predetermined size.
  2. Loss: If the trade results in a loss, double the size of your next trade.
  3. Repeat: Continue doubling your trade size after each consecutive loss.
  4. Win: When you eventually achieve a winning trade, it will cover all the previous losses and give you a profit equal to your initial trade size.
  5. Reset: After a win, reset the trade size to the initial amount and start the process again.

This video explains the concept of the Martingale strategy:

58s


IQ Option
YouTube · Sep 12, 2024
Why It's a Flawed Theory for Trading

  1. Capital Depletion:
    While the theory suggests a win is inevitable, in reality, a long losing streak can occur. Doubling your bet size exponentially increases your risk with each trade, quickly depleting your available capital.
  2. Gambler's Fallacy:
    The strategy is based on the gambler's fallacy, the incorrect belief that future outcomes are influenced by past events, even though each trade is an independent event.
  3. Broker Limitations:
    Real-world trading markets have limits on trade sizes and brokers can impose restrictions, preventing the indefinite doubling of positions needed for the theory to work perfectly.
  4. Exponential Risk:
    The exponential nature of the bets means the risk grows very quickly. For example, a string of losses could see your position size increase from 1 unit to 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, and so on, requiring massive capital for even short losing streaks.

  • #50,996
  • Sep 8, 2025 2:10am Sep 8, 2025 2:10am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Below is a description of Martingale. That's around the same theory that they teach in schools. It is a theory description that occupies the 2 page space under the heading Martingale. That's even how the quants are educated. I'd have everything to lose. Right? Everything is predestined to go against me. I'd be an easy target to beat. Correct? So, what have you to lose? Anyone should be able to beat a martingale trader. AI Overview The Martingale theory proposes that by doubling the size of a trading position after every loss, a single subsequent...
not even full list of problems here, looks like only AI generated, not so good for trading.

but correct is, yes it is always that you beat martingale on the end... so end is near sure... so noone is doing a competition when he know he win for sure... what bullshit is this... pure time losing... would be same do against an all time loser.. noone play games against an all time loser. (nothing is more boring).

you really are at a beginner level, you dont even know why good traders have no time for this bullshit, and double not the time against a loser, 10 times not the time against a loser with a not winning strategy.

i even invest time, to help a loser who will never switch away from the losing strategy, its waste of time.

Do challenges against people from your level, navk is at your level more or less... more you will not find so easy in this forum who still after decades stay same beginner level even after losing again and again with this.
  • #50,997
  • Sep 8, 2025 2:20am Sep 8, 2025 2:20am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} not even full list of problems here, looks like only AI generated, not so good for trading. but correct is, yes it is always that you beat martingale on the end... so end is near sure... so noone is doing a competition when he know he win for sure... what bullshit is this... pure time losing... would be same do against an all time loser.. noone play games against an all time loser. (nothing is more boring). you really are at a beginner level, you dont even know why good traders have no time for this bullshit, and double not the time against...
Okay, you have proven you are unable to compete or beat a martingale trader using no SL.
Even with a complimentary 10K cent account offered to you.

Alright. I understand. There are things that a man just cannot do. Walls are walls.
It's alright. I let you off the hook.
  • #50,998
  • Sep 8, 2025 7:23am Sep 8, 2025 7:23am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Okay, you have proven you are unable to compete or beat a martingale trader using no SL. Even with a complimentary 10K cent account offered to you. Alright. I understand. There are things that a man just cannot do. Walls are walls. It's alright. I let you off the hook.
yes , i can not waste my time with a loser trader, a martingale trader and faker. you are all 3. only good thing is you are a clown and good as bad example for traders. but thats not enough.

that you can waste time with such challenges is normal, you have no trading at all, no wins from trading, you are no fulltime trader, you have only some losing gambling to do ... thats why navk also likes this challenges... you both have so much time because you are no traders... so why you both dont do challenges all the time against each other , same beginners, same beginner martingale style, same low trading knowledge level, same faking. lets see who wins after 2 years challenge (thats the time you need to judge martingale systems... even 5-10 years a lot like to use for judging). you both can create own thread and start your beginner martingale journey with restarts again and again.
  • #50,999
  • Sep 8, 2025 7:28am Sep 8, 2025 7:28am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} yes , i can not waste my time with a loser trader, a martingale trader and faker. you are all 3. only good thing is you are a clown and good as bad example for traders. but thats not enough. that you can waste time with such challenges is normal, you have no trading at all, no wins from trading, you are no fulltime trader, you have only some losing gambling to do ... thats why navk also likes this challenges... you both have so much time because you are no traders... so why you both dont do challenges all the time against each other , same...
The truth of the matter is, you got nothing in your arsenal to beat a martingale system. You know it is bad and that is because you failed at it but you have nothing that would fare any better either and that is where you stand.
  • #51,000
  • Edited 10:08am Sep 8, 2025 8:45am | Edited 10:08am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} The truth of the matter is, you got nothing in your arsenal to beat a martingale system. You know it is bad and that is because you failed at it but you have nothing that would fare any better either and that is where you stand.
oh you got me, i live since 20 years from daytrading because i failed big with martingale trading and stayed at this level. intelligence is not connected with you

stay a clown, happy gamble day.

by the way: navk and you teach all the people in the forum how big losses martingale produce, how mad you get by be a all time loser over decades, how difficult it is for martingale beginners to change to a real trader, how difficult it will be for you to make wins to live from...... whole list of negative thing people can learn from you 2 all time failed martingale traders and search for try to become traders and not gamblers.
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