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  • #50,441
  • Jul 19, 2025 2:45pm Jul 19, 2025 2:45pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} you really need a family or friends... so work on your behavior. at least restart in your tibet way, they dont teach such bullshit you write here (sounds also some cheated you with make you believe they are the greatest minds in Tibet and Teaching you such jokes). you will be forgotten in 2 weeks, that will not speak for you!
I have a family and friends but you hold your horses, do not be delusional idiot. No One here, on FF, gives a fuck about you. Yes, You!
  • #50,442
  • Jul 19, 2025 3:11pm Jul 19, 2025 3:11pm
Quoting navk
{quote} My aim was to enlighten prop traders not to fall prey with prop firms. It is their fate, they will end up paying more and more fees. My account update will be posted as and when it is available. It is growth account.
Do you not understand.....once you get your first payout....you are then playing with house money to grow and scale the prop portfolio.
Example, MFFU....under $100, it could take 10 attempts to pass and get payout of $1200...you've still made $200...buy 2 more and you're off to the races.
If it takes 10 attempts to pass, how do you think that person would fair with a personal account?
You are either a profitable trader or you are not......if you are profitable, props offer far great ROI....it's simple math, can't be disputed.
Yes, you may come across a denied payout, firm out of business, etc, part of the cost of doing business for such a high ROI.
I am not a huge fan of the model due to the conflict of interest, which is why I am running multiple Darwins.
However, to take under $100 and if you pass the first time build it into 200-300K of available DD. How long will it take to turn $100 on a personal account into 200-300K?
  • #50,443
  • Jul 19, 2025 3:39pm Jul 19, 2025 3:39pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Do you not understand.....once you get your first payout....you are then playing with house money to grow and scale the prop portfolio. Example, MFFU....under $100, it could take 10 attempts to pass and get payout of $1200...you've still made $200...buy 2 more and you're off to the races. If it takes 10 attempts to pass, how do you think that person would fair with a personal account? You are either a profitable trader or you are not......if you are profitable, props offer far great ROI....it's simple math, can't be disputed. Yes, you may...
this is right but also very sad at the same time i wish prop didnt go the route of a casino
  • #50,444
  • Jul 19, 2025 3:52pm Jul 19, 2025 3:52pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Do you not understand.....once you get your first payout....you are then playing with house money to grow and scale the prop portfolio. Example, MFFU....under $100, it could take 10 attempts to pass and get payout of $1200...you've still made $200...buy 2 more and you're off to the races. If it takes 10 attempts to pass, how do you think that person would fair with a personal account? You are either a profitable trader or you are not......if you are profitable, props offer far great ROI....it's simple math, can't be disputed. Yes, you may...
Writing is good on paper.

Have seen Monty how much he spent last year in fees.

This year he is much improved.

A trader can improve... but this model may not survive for long.

Time only can answer this.

Coming to my model, I have a clean set up... to trade GU.

On a long term. My target is only 20 clean pips a day.

This is possible and has been possible for me.

Again, time will say i blow the account or the growth is exponential.

As I promissed, i will post my results as and when reuired. It is growth acc.

What you need is a good broker. Being US resident.

For canadians, there are more options to trade, though the best option is still not available for residents of Ontario.

I mentioned elsewhere... when I move to bigger numbers, I am ready to move to Montreal city where the best option of mt4 brokers available.

AXI is available for Montreal city, not for Ontarions.
Intraday only.
  • #50,445
  • Jul 19, 2025 4:05pm Jul 19, 2025 4:05pm
Quoting fleps
{quote} So you want to prevent people from falling prey to prop firms, right? In that case, you should start a thread in Interactive Trading to prove that trading a small account beats prop firm. And then tell everyone here about the thread. You can update both threads. It is crucially important because there are many people who are under the spell of prop firms but do not know the existence of this thread (because they simply think it is about brokers). This is not something I conjured out of thin air. I will show you links of people engaging with...
They have to save themselves.

In trading business, lecturing does not go into ears, I have practical experience.

Once they lose money, they get enlightened.

My path in fx prop firm was hard though i got multiple payouts from MFF.

All other firms, i had 100k funded acc, but for some reason or other acc were gone.

When things were looking good, the MFF issue and then all firms came up with issues. All my 100 k accounts gone.

This made me to switch to Futures.

I was doing very good in the biginning. I was passing evals as i wish. 50K accounts were passed in normal 3 days or under.

A 150k STF account profit, 7500, i was denied.

5 x 50k acc, i got paid just 2 x 1200 dollars, then was cheated 5 x 1200 + 5 x 50k accounts.

top step was good.

Passed 150k eval in 9 days. Straight 15 days of 1k was made by me. Top step sent appreciation email and stated that i will qualify for elite status. I posted the email elsewhere in this forum. I withdrawn 2.5k and that is it. Acc was blown.

Then I felt.. this is not for me. The firms who cheated me still survive. I decided the firms will survive without me.

But then, they will see an end at some point.

I chose my way. FX trading.
Intraday only.
  • #50,446
  • Jul 19, 2025 4:14pm Jul 19, 2025 4:14pm
Quoting driven18
{quote} I have a family and friends but you hold your horses, do not be delusional idiot. No One here, on FF, gives a fuck about you. Yes, You!
your tibet monks (lets really hope this monks was not real) produced a funny pupil ... looks like unfinished project /

lets hope your life gets better for you with time and your mental conditions increase, you really hate the world at the moment. maybe you will never change, but like you was saying, nobody looks like caring for this case and its ok for you.
  • #50,447
  • Jul 19, 2025 5:01pm Jul 19, 2025 5:01pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Writing is good on paper. Have seen Monty how much he spent last year in fees. This year he is much improved. A trader can improve... but this model may not survive for long. Time only can answer this. Coming to my model, I have a clean set up... to trade GU. On a long term. My target is only 20 clean pips a day. This is possible and has been possible for me. Again, time will say i blow the account or the growth is exponential. As I promissed, i will post my results as and when reuired. It is growth acc. What you need is a good broker. Being...
Start a thread in Interactive Trading. If you are indeed a good trader, you will receive plenty of support.
Please join me in my journey for 100 perfect trades. See my journal!
  • #50,448
  • Jul 19, 2025 5:49pm Jul 19, 2025 5:49pm
Just want you to say in my knowledge and the ones i have tried all props on futures side are paying right now…..

you just need to all the boxes of their rules….. plain n simple
…


even risky firms as well….

coming a from a fulltime prop firm trader and i dont do personal accounts anymore….
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,449
  • Edited 9:35pm Jul 19, 2025 9:17pm | Edited 9:35pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} your tibet monks (lets really hope this monks was not real) produced a funny pupil ... looks like unfinished project / lets hope your life gets better for you with time and your mental conditions increase, you really hate the world at the moment. maybe you will never change, but like you was saying, nobody looks like caring for this case and its ok for you.
Come on man, what I am really saying is, stop your fantasy world, No One here, on FF, gives a fuck about you. Yes, You Trader191!

Your family also will remember you for 2 weeks, then they will go with their issues and problems and you will be just another was in this world!

Can someone, @fleps and even the good guy @montygoldy or even @Takisd(oops), who are more of the saint then me, explain in more gentle terms that no one gives a fuck about him/her. It is unfortunate but it the Truth.
  • #50,450
  • Jul 19, 2025 9:57pm Jul 19, 2025 9:57pm
Quoting fleps
{quote} A SL is like a condom. No one likes it, but it is absolutely necessary. {quote} I'm not saying he is an angel (I don't care for that anyway), but if you are ragging on Mastermind for that, then perhaps you should wage a war against the administration of this very forum, whereby commercial members are allowed to run free without having to prove that their products bring profitability; ie. the need to upload a trade explorer (even a freaking demo). Just food for thought, you know.
I made one of my test TE's public.
No condoms just for you.
  • #50,451
  • Jul 20, 2025 12:06am Jul 20, 2025 12:06am
It takes only 1 trader to trade without SL to prove wrong all the traders that claim SL is a must.
Feels good to know that not 95% but 99.99999999999% are wrong on this issue.
  • #50,452
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:25am Jul 20, 2025 5:25am
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  • #50,453
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:25am Jul 20, 2025 5:25am
Quoting driven18
{quote} Come on man, what I am really saying is, stop your fantasy world, No One here, on FF, gives a fuck about you. Yes, You Trader191! Your family also will remember you for 2 weeks, then they will go with their issues and problems and you will be just another was in this world! Can someone, @fleps and even the good guy @montygoldy or even @Takisd(oops), who are more of the saint then me, explain in more gentle terms that no one gives a fuck about him/her. It is unfortunate but it the Truth.
I don’t know what you ask
  • #50,454
  • Jul 20, 2025 6:03am Jul 20, 2025 6:03am
This thread is derailed already. Same as cable thread this thread will become sanctum for nut cases.
on a postive roll...
  • #50,455
  • Jul 20, 2025 8:46am Jul 20, 2025 8:46am
Indeed, which is why this thread where there will be control over turds like Navk is the one that should be active:
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...-hub-20?page=2
  • #50,456
  • Jul 20, 2025 8:58am Jul 20, 2025 8:58am
See to it that your lives are not derailed due to improper trading methods, improper broker/firms.

This is for new traders.

Warning bell.
Intraday only.
  • #50,457
  • Jul 20, 2025 9:22am Jul 20, 2025 9:22am
Quoting driven18
{quote} Come on man, what I am really saying is, stop your fantasy world, No One here, on FF, gives a fuck about you. Yes, You Trader191! Your family also will remember you for 2 weeks, then they will go with their issues and problems and you will be just another was in this world! Can someone, @fleps and even the good guy @montygoldy or even @Takisd(oops), who are more of the saint then me, explain in more gentle terms that no one gives a fuck about him/her. It is unfortunate but it the Truth.
at least your Tibet trip looks like you got scammed .

funny how unhappy you are.

have a good life and get help. i wish you the best.
  • #50,458
  • Jul 20, 2025 9:27am Jul 20, 2025 9:27am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} at least your Tibet trip looks like you got scammed . funny how unhappy you are. have a good life and get help. i wish you the best.
Enough fun, I will end this on the positive note. Lets continue to be healthy and happy. Cheers!
  • #50,459
  • Edited 5:38pm Jul 20, 2025 3:29pm | Edited 5:38pm
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  • #50,460
  • Jul 20, 2025 5:48pm Jul 20, 2025 5:48pm
My live private acc 1k account done for Sunday / Monday.

All in GU, as per my chart.

5 %. ROI.

I will do more for the day but will look for better entry.

My another live acc, 5k still in progress for today.
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