Trump: Tariffs will start being paid on August 1, and there will be no change | Crypto Craft
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ffghost
Jul 8, 2025 10:05am
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Quoting AJR
{quote} Do you really believe he gives a fuck for what we call him?!!! This is another delay... August there will be another delay... And so on... until everything is diluted, and sold as a victory for him... That's his game!
Yes, I 100% believe he cares what the world calls him. Most people of "power" (just a psychological fact) feed not on their internal success, but how the world perceives them. Once you pass a particular point of internal satisfaction, there becomes a need for some other "game to play". In the case of the president, this is clearly, and has ALWAYS been public perception (read art of deal, amwatch apprentice, old interviews, present actions, etc). He can be well intentioned or the devil based on each of our respective political views, but one this is for certain: he cares about, and he ACTS UPON, public perception. The media knows what it is doing when it labels or writes articles. 1) it is trying to capitalize on the division over the subject. 2) it goads the subject into further action which leads to more content to drive additional divisions, and thus profits.

It's an easy game to see, and easier game to play....BUT, since it isn't going to stop, we just have to make money in this environment.
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Windstrown
Jul 8, 2025 10:00am
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Have nothing against the tariffs policy. What i have against is the way he communicates them making the whole world enemy of the west. Ridiculous the way he confronts the world like he owns the place. Countries have been doing tariffs for years and we still deal with one another. It's amazing how he has to make it all about himself
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Momofrmnyc
Jul 8, 2025 9:49am
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Haha I guess that’s what you guys get for calling him a chicken.

Do what you got to do.
AJR
Jul 8, 2025 10:10am
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Yes, I 100% believe he cares what the world calls him. Most people of "power" (just a psychological fact) feed not on their internal success, but how the world perceives them. Once you pass a particular point of internal satisfaction, there becomes a need for some other "game to play". In the case of the president, this is clearly, and has ALWAYS been public perception (read art of deal, amwatch apprentice, old interviews, present actions, etc). He can be well intentioned or the devil based on each of our respective political...
I agree that he cares about the media and high figures in public... Not the common mortals like us

It's all about narcissism...
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ffghost
Jul 8, 2025 9:57am
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Quoting Momofrmnyc
Haha I guess that’s what you guys get for calling him a chicken. Do what you got to do.
Yup, called it in when the CNBC article posted. Sigh
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ffghost
Jul 8, 2025 10:22am
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Quoting AJR
{quote} I agree that he cares about the media and high figures in public... Not the common mortals like us It's all about narcissism...

OOoooh, gottcha. Yeah, he could care less what I (or any of us) think, that's for sure. You're spot on

I do wonder if it is cathartic for people to jump on forums and anonymously deride others though, love him or hate him, (and, of course discounting the fact that 50%+ of the one-word Trader# posts are likely bots), jumping on to always be negative about market actions CAN'T be good for trading long-term.
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AJR
Jul 8, 2025 9:54am
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Quoting Momofrmnyc
Haha I guess that’s what you guys get for calling him a chicken. Do what you got to do.
Do you really believe he gives a fuck for what we call him?!!!

This is another delay...
August there will be another delay...
And so on... until everything is diluted, and sold as a victory for him...

That's his game!
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heretheregon
Jul 8, 2025 10:11am
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Yes, I 100% believe he cares what the world calls him. Most people of "power" (just a psychological fact) feed not on their internal success, but how the world perceives them. Once you pass a particular point of internal satisfaction, there becomes a need for some other "game to play". In the case of the president, this is clearly, and has ALWAYS been public perception (read art of deal, amwatch apprentice, old interviews, present actions, etc). He can be well intentioned or the devil based on each of our respective political...
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Trader#0E24
Jul 8, 2025 9:54am
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Fuck maga fuck elon fuck melania #barackobamaftw
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35T
Jul 8, 2025 10:32am
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Looks like it’s the end of easy taco trades. The trade doesn’t work if no one sells on the “news”. Definitely a good trade while it lasted though.
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9jatrader
Jul 8, 2025 10:28am
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This is the most noisy president ever. He acts before thinking. Impose increase tarrif and the affected countries will repay you, Trump. Nonsense.
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atillaken
Jul 8, 2025 10:24am
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Hahahahahahaha look to CHFJPY.... JPY is over...really over..... Poor Japanese people, no travelling abroad anymore. Sit home and eat rice.
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aldonin
Jul 8, 2025 9:52am
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TACO again!!!!
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35T
Jul 8, 2025 10:02am
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Sorry, I’m having trouble taking this seriously. We have heard these exactly two things before, no extensions, rates set in stone, it’s not a negotiation tactic.

Except every time before it has been a negotiation tactic, the deadline has been extended or suspended, and the rates reduced .

But imo it’s just about how other countries react, not about what Trump says. If other countries show an honest effort to negotiate, everything will be fine. If a major country fights back, then things could take a turn.
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Schweet
Jul 8, 2025 10:31am
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} OOoooh, gottcha. Yeah, he could care less what I (or any of us) think, that's for sure. You're spot on I do wonder if it is cathartic for people to jump on forums and anonymously deride others though, love him or hate him, (and, of course discounting the fact that 50%+ of the one-word Trader# posts are likely bots), jumping on to always be negative about market actions CAN'T be good for trading long-term.
President Trump does not care about what anybody thinks about him. He calls the Communist news network liars and MSNBC liars to their faces on Air.
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jordanvic
Jul 8, 2025 9:58am
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Good luck enforcing it.
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AJR
Jul 8, 2025 10:29am
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} OOoooh, gottcha. Yeah, he could care less what I (or any of us) think, that's for sure. You're spot on I do wonder if it is cathartic for people to jump on forums and anonymously deride others though, love him or hate him, (and, of course discounting the fact that 50%+ of the one-word Trader# posts are likely bots), jumping on to always be negative about market actions CAN'T be good for trading long-term.
I hate this anonymity thing.

For me it's cowardice... And I imagine it must be cathartic too.

I'm doing good with this market. Vol is at a healthy level for premium. I never complain, even when losing... I now ho to lose
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Trader#0E24
Jul 8, 2025 10:03am
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[quote=AJR;15303294]{quote} Do you really believe he gives a fuck for what we call him?!!! This is another delay... August there will be another delay... And so on... until everything is diluted, and sold as a victory for him... That's his game!

HAHA YOURE A CLOWNSPAZM IN THE FORM OF CHICKEN YEAST. get a grip and face the reality of what is coming. mass imports will be forced and the commodities will be through the roof. war will destroy all and reunite us in the end. the tariffs were put in place to structure and improve economies, not impede and disrupt ecological growth. when you put up numbers like these it disrupts everything, starting with consumers. be wise, buy more bitcoin
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Schweet
Jul 8, 2025 10:38am
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Quoting 35T
Looks like it’s the end of easy taco trades. The trade doesn’t work if no one sells on the “news”. Definitely a good trade while it lasted though.
Its been good.
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35T
Jul 8, 2025 11:51am
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Quoting Trader#9EEF
{quote} I'd like to remind you that you as US citizen are going to pai it, it will be added to your end prize, none of exporting country is going to pay it.. only export can be limited as the consuption might be reduced. I have no idea who teach you economy but you better to start learing.. the you won't be so happy and by the way in same way inflation in US will rise.. so what is the reason you are so happy ?
Many US citizens are happy because we actually like our country, not everything it does obviously, but overall we have almost unlimited freedom and opportunity compared to any other country in the world. There is a reason millions of people from everywhere want to come here.

I realize like many new traders you think you are smarter than the markets, but we are at all time highs because most everything is fine right now. No one knows how much actual prices will rise with tariffs. Did you forget that the US had 50% inflation since Covid? We got through that without any significant issues, if we get a little more inflation from tariffs nothing terrible is going to happen.

Go to any nice mall in the US on any weekend. It’s completely packed with people buying things they don’t actually need. No one is panicking about tariffs.
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OutThere
Jul 8, 2025 9:04pm
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This list is only going to get longer.

Here Are 202 Companies Hurt by Trump’s Tariffs

https://www.cato.org/commentary/here...trumps-tariffs
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Trader#A8D5
Jul 8, 2025 9:51am
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there won't any tariffs paid. There is substantial corporate tax in the tax code and no big company is paying it, none of them, the same thing is going to be with the tariffs. They will find a way and scheme.
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Trader#A306
Jul 8, 2025 10:25am
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"We will publish the Epstein list." Screw TACO and his cronies!
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Ianh
Jul 8, 2025 4:36pm
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Quoting 35T
{quote} Many US citizens are happy because we actually like our country, not everything it does obviously, but overall we have almost unlimited freedom and opportunity compared to any other country in the world. There is a reason millions of people from everywhere want to come here. I realize like many new traders you think you are smarter than the markets, but we are at all time highs because most everything is fine right now. No one knows how much actual prices will rise with tariffs. Did you forget that the US had 50% inflation since Covid? We...
This is true - I traveled to the US is 2019, and it was the nicest 3rd world country I've ever been to.
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Trader#9EEF
Jul 8, 2025 11:16am
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Quoting Momofrmnyc
Haha I guess that’s what you guys get for calling him a chicken. Do what you got to do.
I'd like to remind you that you as US citizen are going to pai it, it will be added to your end prize, none of exporting country is going to pay it.. only export can be limited as the consuption might be reduced. I have no idea who teach you economy but you better to start learing.. the you won't be so happy and by the way in same way inflation in US will rise.. so what is the reason you are so happy ?
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Trader#9EEF
Jul 8, 2025 12:23pm
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Quoting 35T
{quote} Many US citizens are happy because we actually like our country, not everything it does obviously, but overall we have almost unlimited freedom and opportunity compared to any other country in the world. There is a reason millions of people from everywhere want to come here. I realize like many new traders you think you are smarter than the markets, but we are at all time highs because most everything is fine right now. No one knows how much actual prices will rise with tariffs. Did you forget that the US had 50% inflation since Covid? We...
believe me or not but it looks different from the distance. I did not noticed so called freedom in US, there is one of the most restrictive overregulated laws I ever saw. Drug distribution (especially related to the antidepressants) does not show bright future, you choose guy with NPD disorder and you happy about it, just because this guy live in 70s last century and is trying to push you back to this years, sorry but in my county there was very similar situation when populists party won the election. Doesn't consider you that middle class has been just wiped out ? It's not about traiding (in this case I'm satisfied thanx to mr. Trump) but this guy is decomposin you country and you are trying to not to see what is going on, populists rules always leave country in debt and disorgenise. So you better love your country better and wiser.
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Trader#B743
Jul 8, 2025 12:42pm
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If companies importing goods paying this tariffs, they will reduce their revenu and with that their profit. So these companies would almost not pay any taxes anymore but pay tariffs.
Is this a win-loose or a loose-win situation ...
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Trader#6A1E
Jul 8, 2025 9:49am
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awesome thanks
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Trader#9812
Jul 8, 2025 11:12am
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When we will see gold from Fort Knox?
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Trader#1360
Jul 8, 2025 11:32am
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Hopefully both sides can negotiate both sides being charged.
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