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  • #11,341
  • Jul 3, 2025 2:45am Jul 3, 2025 2:45am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Looks like same again ? ps To me looks a little more of a battle between Buyers & Sellers at this week currant levels ? Usd Jpy could be very interesting at 143 75 zone ? {image} {image}
143.75 Zone activity
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  • Edited 7:55am Jul 3, 2025 7:42am | Edited 7:55am
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  • #11,343
  • Jul 3, 2025 3:23pm Jul 3, 2025 3:23pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Looks like same again ? ps To me looks a little more of a battle between Buyers & Sellers at this week currant levels ? Usd Jpy could be very interesting at 143 75 zone ? {image} {image}
Update
  • #11,344
  • Jul 3, 2025 7:04pm Jul 3, 2025 7:04pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Update

Excellent you are seeing the market attraction at those round numbers Dave
  • #11,345
  • Jul 4, 2025 2:41am Jul 4, 2025 2:41am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Pete Very Simple Just think Russian Dolls How long do we stay in each Octave be it Major, Baby or call it what ever you want So you get Support Resistance levels Risk Reward all in one chart {image} {image} {image} {image}
Pete
Remember this
look at it then
Look at it now
  • #11,346
  • Jul 4, 2025 3:01am Jul 4, 2025 3:01am
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Excellent you are seeing the market attraction at those round numbers Dave
Your Fav
Yep just Numbers ?
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  • #11,347
  • Jul 4, 2025 4:03am Jul 4, 2025 4:03am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Your Fav
Yep just Numbers ? {image} {image} {image}

Cheers Dave,

To clarify
and for others,
numbers to me are essentially just PRICE. So not just numbers, at all really, but of what relevance they are to the MOST styles traders.

Numbers (firstly, round numbers) are a set unwavering PRICE
and might have some relevance to certain styles of traders,

So the numbers are not so much important to me, at all, but rather HOW other traders respond at those price levels (numbers),
which could then draw the market into some action maybe, or inaction & balance such as Inflection/Aggregation areas.


Other prices (numbers) like larger monthly pivot lines might intrigue the interest of certain longer term weekly (or monthly) traders such as Institutions etc.
plus other styles of traders also looking at shorter pivot points, weekly and of course daily (and maybe their mid points 50%)

then maybe some swing traders also show interest at numbers (daily, to weekly maybe) who are looking at the recent market highs & lows (also just prices)

and down to intraday traders,
looking maybe at the shorter timeframe swing points (15m to 4hrs)

as well as recent liquidity zones such as prior market opens (asia, london, new york) and also upcoming session opens.

These price areas (numbers) I will just call trader target attractors as I have observed over the years of looking that someone was attracted there,
just by reviewing past history.


But will traders be attracted in the future, at similar areas on the chart, well that is up to each trader to decide of course, each will have their own areas of interest.
There is no one way of trading our markets, or one way which is best imho.


After that then I would love to see a confluence of these attractors (prices, numbers),
as that suggests to me the possibility of a wider range of trader styles showing interest in the same location area
(creating maybe new liquidity coming in - or exiting – and hoping the market then MOVES).


All this is seen more easily maybe on charts,
so I did up USDJPY early in Asia today to look at yesterdays market run just to see where traders may again show interest as the day progresses today,
like they did the day before.

Hope this gives all a broader understanding of these numbers which are PRICES (and which I just call the trader target attractors)


Wishing you & everyone the best

USDJPY
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  • #11,348
  • Jul 4, 2025 4:16am Jul 4, 2025 4:16am
Numbers plus Range
Money never Sleeps

ps
Nice post Pete
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  • Jul 5, 2025 6:44am Jul 5, 2025 6:44am
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  • #11,350
  • Jul 7, 2025 4:36pm Jul 7, 2025 4:36pm
It is quite reasonable for traders to use any methodology of their own choosing,
for determining when & where (Price+Time) they will enter (or exit) their trade.


The market will usually do its own thing courtesy of traders large & small working with and enticing liquidity (and providors) as it does.

The market mechanics, in the background, will often follow a set routine imo that is observable day after day,

Trade safe folks, and trade well, when we have an advantage.



The pappy of GJ
USDJPY
Market steps
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  • #11,351
  • Jul 7, 2025 10:10pm Jul 7, 2025 10:10pm
Quoting TimeTells
It is quite reasonable for traders to use any methodology of their own choosing, for determining when & where (Price+Time) they will enter (or exit) their trade. The market will usually do its own thing courtesy of traders large & small working with and enticing liquidity (and providors) as it does. The market mechanics, in the background, will often follow a set routine imo that is observable day after day, Trade safe folks, and trade well, when we have an advantage. The pappy of GJ USDJPY Market steps . {image}
looks great
  • #11,352
  • Jul 7, 2025 11:25pm Jul 7, 2025 11:25pm
Cheers ninner, all the best sir
  • #11,353
  • Jul 7, 2025 11:29pm Jul 7, 2025 11:29pm
Quoting TimeTells
Cheers ninner, all the best sir
you too my friend!!
  • #11,354
  • Jul 8, 2025 4:42am Jul 8, 2025 4:42am
Quoting TimeTells
It is quite reasonable for traders to use any methodology of their own choosing, for determining when & where (Price+Time) they will enter (or exit) their trade. The market will usually do its own thing courtesy of traders large & small working with and enticing liquidity (and providors) as it does. The market mechanics, in the background, will often follow a set routine imo that is observable day after day, Trade safe folks, and trade well, when we have an advantage. The pappy of GJ USDJPY Market steps . {image}
Pete
I will leave it to you
the thread sadly seems dead now
TBH as you have said numerous times
It's very difficult to actually spot
your Trades because of the reasons you have repeatedly mentioned
That was the reason for my posts, just to see by a
Go Compare method if I could gain any clues
But alas no
So I will leave you to your method and me to mine
Wishing you
All the best
Dave
  • #11,355
  • Jul 8, 2025 6:04am Jul 8, 2025 6:04am
Thanks Dave,
all the best to you also
  • #11,356
  • Jul 8, 2025 6:13pm Jul 8, 2025 6:13pm
The thing that fascinated me when I observed these market mechanics over the years was,
they were not restricted to just the currency pair I was trading (GBPJPY)

The mechanics covered all pairs, indices, metals (and even crypto)

Which begged the question, are the same market operators (ie algos MMs LPs big traders, institutions etc) operating the same way on each product intraday
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post15299240


I mean, we know when trading gold we are not moving precious metals around between different folks.
We are trading contracts for difference (CFD) ie "paper" gold.
So the intraday machinations on Gold, I think, would mean little to the real stuff End Of Day ... or ... Fixing Time ...
where actual physical gold can be bought and/or sold at THAT fixed price at the time (less commission of course to the gold broker).

In between, it is likely a bit like the old wild west.
Maybe anything goes hahaa

And, if anything goes

Why does it seem to GO, the same way and to the same mechanics.



Just some food for thought on a chilly morning here in Brissie

All the best, and good fortunes to all, trade safe then well


GOLD
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  • #11,357
  • Jul 8, 2025 8:46pm Jul 8, 2025 8:46pm
Back to my old fave, GBPJPY

First trade in the Asia session is usually a tester, to see if the MM has big plans or will just use the same machanics again.
In, out +12p, no big deal but tells me a story for the moment.

Back now in an hour, hopefully they have moved price hard to somewhere interesting (ie attraction for a wider group of traders)

first chart, a live trade account
second chart, a live a/c setup chart (the first trade a/c my broker doesn't have my chart with setups, I add those as annotations later for posting)

Trade safe & well folks, it's a jungle out there

GBPJPY
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  • #11,358
  • Jul 9, 2025 7:02pm Jul 9, 2025 7:02pm
Not that I trade BTC but I will look in at many & various products' operations, just for fun, (while waiting on GJ to form some suitable asia setup).


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  • #11,359
  • Jul 10, 2025 3:23am Jul 10, 2025 3:23am
Quoting TimeTells
Not that I trade BTC but I will look in at many & various products' operations, just for fun, (while waiting on GJ to form some suitable asia setup). BTCUSD {image}
Please what is your view on this BTC london section, am seeing sell , i think it trade against dollar , if dollar strong BTC should drive down . please encourage and advise me as am in a sell.
  • #11,360
  • Jul 10, 2025 3:40am Jul 10, 2025 3:40am
Quoting Tospyj
{quote} Please what is your view on this BTC london section, am seeing sell , i think it trade against dollar , if dollar strong BTC should drive down . please encourage and advise me as am in a sell.

Hi Tospyj,

Mate I don't trade BTC as I mentioned in the post of mine above which you quoted,
so I do not have a directional opinion at all here sorry.

Plus I trade my currencies mostly after a momentum move has been made in either direction.
So there is no advice from me of any knowledgeable substance that I can offer to address the fact that you are currently in a sell position.

What I can tell you, as you would be watching the charts intently at the moment I would guess,
is that you can see price has been in a tight range bouncing between the BRN 111000 below and right AT the 50% mid-point- of the Day PP and Day (R)1 way above.

When I see such range behavour over an extended period of time, like today with BTC, it is in my mind that price is at an Inflection Point.
And when price is held in Inflection for such periods if time then only one thing is imminent.
And that is Breakout.
Which can be slow to start and then rushes away.
Or
Can be hard and sustained immediately depending in who is caught in the wrong market direction without an escape plan, while the rest reap a bonanza harvest.
Be on your toes.

Here's an example of what an Inflection Point looks like on a past currency chart.
Before the breakout.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post15289719

All the best T.
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