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ffghost
Jun 14, 2025 12:40pm
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Quoting TraderTero
He always calls Putin for advise. What a disgrace the orange buffoon is to USA.
Politically, it probably makes sense though. If we consider the theory (which has been held since the 1960s) that Russia and the US have been engaged in a decades long proxy war, then cold war, then back to proxy war, this current situation (US/Israel v Russia/Iran) is a negotiation opportunity or a catastrophic risk. It's not like Russia (or any other breakaway republic) couldn't have given Iran a bomb before now. However, public knowledge of that would be terrifying to the world at present.

If Russia and the US appear to be the "cooler heads" and back off their respective proxy arms, then perhaps deescalation can begin?

FWIW, it's disheartening to speak of these "macro" events in such a passive way (yes, even as I just did....similar to a video game). The loss of life on ALL sides is abhorrent. It would be so nice to live in a world where discussion and negotiation can resolve conflict and military budgets can be rededicated to ending poverty/hunger/etc. Unfortunately, as we have seen time and time again throughout history, that has not been the case, nor looks like to be so in the future. The innocent die alongside the guilty and suffering/death continues in the name of "peace". Let's hope for minimal impact here.
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The Fool
Jun 15, 2025 7:56am
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Quoting TraderTero
He always calls Putin for advise. What a disgrace the orange buffoon is to USA.
You have to talk to Russia in this situation because Russia is in a militarily codependent relationship with Iran. Iran supplies Russia with arms for it's ongoing war in Ukraine. Is there a point at which Russia would feel it needed to come to Iran's actual defense if the war with Israel escalates? Probably. You'd want to know what that is. Is the US capable of reining in Israel? Maybe, probably. Russia would want to know that. I don't pretend to know how all this shit works, really. Sadly, though, I really doubt most of the heads of State do either. They kind of make it up as they go along and hope for the best. And all have differing ideas about what "the best" means. I'm pretty much amazed we have not had a nuclear holocaust yet. As these "leaders" get more and more incompetent, outright stupid, vicious and unpredictable and even senile, the chances of just that keep getting larger.
Trader#2EBC
Jun 14, 2025 12:55pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Politically, it probably makes sense though. If we consider the theory (which has been held since the 1960s) that Russia and the US have been engaged in a decades long proxy war, then cold war, then back to proxy war, this current situation (US/Israel v Russia/Iran) is a negotiation opportunity or a catastrophic risk. It's not like Russia (or any other breakaway republic) couldn't have given Iran a bomb before now. However, public knowledge of that would be terrifying to the world at present. If Russia and the US appear to be the "cooler...
Yes it would be nice to have peace. Unfortunately the average human is just a violent animal who hasn’t evolved yet. Given a chance, the average person degrades into animalistic behavior almost all the time. Kids laugh as they watch other kids use violence today.
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GhosTraderGT
Jun 14, 2025 12:49pm
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Putin now a mediator btw US/Israel vs Iran. Funny world.
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hesron
Jun 14, 2025 10:56pm
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Trump is just talking..... a businessman will not dare to make a decision that will disrupt his business.... so there is no correlation between Trump being able to resolve the Israel vs Iran war....... the war will continue without end
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TraderTero
Jun 14, 2025 1:11pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Politically, it probably makes sense though. If we consider the theory (which has been held since the 1960s) that Russia and the US have been engaged in a decades long proxy war, then cold war, then back to proxy war, this current situation (US/Israel v Russia/Iran) is a negotiation opportunity or a catastrophic risk. It's not like Russia (or any other breakaway republic) couldn't have given Iran a bomb before now. However, public knowledge of that would be terrifying to the world at present. If Russia and the US appear to be the "cooler...
Trump escalated the issue and is now having a TACO moment. Calls his boss Putin for help. Unfortunately I cannot see much anything positive with that. On top of that He took away 20k air defense missiles assigned to Ukraine and sent them to Israel. Russia, China and Iran are playing Trump like a fiddle.

Deescalation would be good but unfortunately the incompetent US leadership is taking the world to a total disaster on almost every level.
ScalaFX
Jun 14, 2025 3:09pm
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Buy Gold
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FRR
Jun 14, 2025 5:15pm
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Tough times.. but great times for traders.
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TraderTero
Jun 15, 2025 8:21am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}You have to talk to Russia in this situation because Russia is in a militarily codependent relationship with Iran. Iran supplies Russia with arms for it's ongoing war in Ukraine. Is there a point at which Russia would feel it needed to come to Iran's actual defense if the war with Israel escalates? Probably. You'd want to know what that is. Is the US capable of reining in Israel? Maybe, probably. Russia would want to know that. I don't pretend to know how all this shit works, really. Sadly, though, I really doubt most of the heads of State...
Maybe he should have consulted Putin before allowing Israel attack Iran. Iran being able to have nuclear weapons depends on China, Russia and NK.
TraderTero
Jun 14, 2025 12:20pm
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He always calls Putin for advise. What a disgrace the orange buffoon is to USA.
Trader#2EAF
Jun 14, 2025 1:43pm
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Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Trump escalated the issue and is now having a TACO moment. Calls his boss Putin for help. Unfortunately I cannot see much anything positive with that. On top of that He took away 20k air defense missiles assigned to Ukraine and sent them to Israel. Russia, China and Iran are playing Trump like a fiddle. Deescalation would be good but unfortunately the incompetent US leadership is taking the world to a total disaster on almost every level.
Since you know you'll never be a successful at trading any market, vent your anger and frustration here on FF one last time and then leave for good. Stop ruining these boards with your endless political views.
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rsousa
Jun 14, 2025 4:14pm
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Trum calling is boss.
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Trader#C2B3
Jun 14, 2025 1:09pm
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Bitcoin going up now
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Trader#AF61
Jun 14, 2025 5:47pm
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sell gold
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Trader#3027
Jun 15, 2025 4:36pm
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Trump called his boss for advice or the boss called his servant to give instructions, hah
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