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  • #49,061
  • Edited 4:38pm May 30, 2025 4:19pm | Edited 4:38pm
Quoting Nehemah
{quote} Ty 50k instant for 299$ , 2k DD , 3K TG (20% CR) is EV ++ (my own opinion but easy to proove) They paid 5 millions last month on Rise (solid) But if I understand correctly, they have already tightened the rules? Typical
THey are running like FTT if you remember not a distant memory... First paid big then Every week new rules so that people dont get paid out..........
5-10$ million doesnot matter... What matters is when you get ready for a payout will they be able to?????????

My personal experience they gonna be irrelevant soon......

Remember ticktick when they released STF like 6k drawdown and 7.5k target then changed it now look at them IRRELEVANT FIRM....

Moral of the story top1 is not worth the money RIGHT NOW at all with current product offering where they basically reduced the drawdown and increased target to get a payout.

Even there regular challenges are same price as topstep so i let you choose if you wanna spend same money what you'll pick and you know the answer as well.


THats why i dont understand why these newbie firms owners don't do any research before jumping into the market (just copy what the competition is doing). I mean we have solid case models of APEX for 20 accounts, topstep for longevity and tradeify for STF.......


Since last year I have seen and experienced all sorts BS firms can do. I can smell from a mile away when BS is brewing by these firms. Thats why if you notice i get in in with these risky firms at the right time make a killing and get out....

Treat them like memecoins and when a firm spending too much on ads and there is hype thats the right time to get in and try to get payouts fast. COz they always gonna pay in the beginning even the big numbers something to BRAG about... Oh we paid 5mil blah blah....

My only regret was i should have joined the FTT ship when they were paying big instead i was on the sidelines screaming SCAMMERS>>.....

AS ALWAYS PROFITABLE TRADERS CAN ONLY MILK THESE FIRMS
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #49,062
  • May 30, 2025 5:43pm May 30, 2025 5:43pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} THey are running like FTT if you remember not a distant memory... First paid big then Every week new rules so that people dont get paid out.......... 5-10$ million doesnot matter... What matters is when you get ready for a payout will they be able to????????? My personal experience they gonna be irrelevant soon...... Remember ticktick when they released STF like 6k drawdown and 7.5k target then changed it now look at them IRRELEVANT FIRM.... Moral of the story top1 is not worth the money RIGHT NOW at all with current product offering where...
Another bs i saw on top1 discord…. Once you moved to live you cant withdraw the initial amount ever….. only profits made top of it lol….…, our profits we cant even withdraw…. One of the mods said this not sure what their faq says
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  • #49,063
  • May 30, 2025 6:14pm May 30, 2025 6:14pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Another bs i saw on top1 discord…. Once you moved to live you cant withdraw the initial amount ever….. only profits made top of it lol….…, our profits we cant even withdraw…. One of the mods said this not sure what their faq says
tick tack tick tack boooom
  • #49,064
  • May 30, 2025 8:25pm May 30, 2025 8:25pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} tick tack tick tack boooom
check this nonsense
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  • #49,065
  • May 31, 2025 12:05am May 31, 2025 12:05am
All of a sudden I am getting emails from Seacrest offering discounts.

When did MMFX rebrand as Seacrest? I must have missed that. 14% 1 star on Trust Pilot. Not looking good
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #49,066
  • May 31, 2025 7:10am May 31, 2025 7:10am
This person had their payment denied by FTMO

If you’re struggling with your emotions in trading, watch this - YouTube
  • #49,067
  • May 31, 2025 9:00am May 31, 2025 9:00am
Quoting MoHoSK
This person had their payment denied by FTMO If you’re struggling with your emotions in trading, watch this - YouTube
Reasonable video except where he says 'the risk is off the table' and there's 'no risk exposed' because his stops are breakeven.

Little bit amatuer for someone who mentors to make such statements.
  • #49,068
  • May 31, 2025 10:01am May 31, 2025 10:01am
there are quite a few people being banned from ftmo, but most of them are fail fail fail fail fail pass payout fail fail fail fail pass types
  • #49,069
  • May 31, 2025 10:08am May 31, 2025 10:08am
Quoting MoHoSK
This person had their payment denied by FTMO If you’re struggling with your emotions in trading, watch this - YouTube
There comes a point where one should take the capital earned from these casinos, and just trade your own account. No need to dance with them any longer.

I don’t feel sorry for him at all getting ripped off by FTMO. He’s hustling for subs on a YouTube channel. He knows the risks or should have a clue.

If a firm has a stupid “one sided rule” then that’s a clue that they are completely BS.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #49,070
  • May 31, 2025 10:14am May 31, 2025 10:14am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} There comes a point where one should take the capital earned from these casinos, and just trade your own account. No need to dance with them any longer. I don’t feel sorry for him at all getting ripped off by FTMO. He’s hustling for subs on a YouTube channel. He knows the risks or should have a clue. If a firm has a stupid “one sided rule” then that’s a clue that they are completely BS.
I watched this video now, i want to punch the guy in the face. He keeps with the autofellatio comment "consistently profitable". My guess is he isn't "consistently profitable" because he sells a course.
  • #49,071
  • May 31, 2025 10:17am May 31, 2025 10:17am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I watched this video now, i want to punch the guy in the face. He keeps with the autofellatio comment "consistently profitable". My guess is he isn't "consistently profitable" because he sells a course.
Exactly
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #49,072
  • Edited 11:23am May 31, 2025 10:26am | Edited 11:23am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I watched this video now, i want to punch the guy in the face. He keeps with the autofellatio comment "consistently profitable". My guess is he isn't "consistently profitable" because he sells a course.
hurry up , only 4 slots left to make +20K / month, SNAKE OIL



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  • #49,073
  • May 31, 2025 10:52am May 31, 2025 10:52am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} hurry up , only 4 slots left to make +20K / month {image}
Damn, if I miss to be one of the 4, can I buy in for $10K? Sounds like 50% profit in one month, i will take it.

He is just another beggar and peddler on youtube.
  • #49,074
  • May 31, 2025 3:24pm May 31, 2025 3:24pm
ftmo should ban gamblers that go all in, but if you trade ok they pay, this guys just wants attention to sell whatever he sells, and he has affliate links to fundednext and funderpro that are shady props
  • #49,075
  • May 31, 2025 4:02pm May 31, 2025 4:02pm
Instead of banning these people, what the companies should do is make the rules strict from the get go to have an accepted mold of trader. Instead you have loose rules and people abusing them.

The problem with the banning is that you dont know its going to happen, so make it so people know by applying it as rules.
  • #49,076
  • May 31, 2025 6:20pm May 31, 2025 6:20pm
Quoting Novazor
ftmo should ban gamblers that go all in, but if you trade ok they pay, this guys just wants attention to sell whatever he sells, and he has affliate links to fundednext and funderpro that are shady props
The problem is the props need gamblers to keep the income stream of fees coming in......then when you pass and earn the product you purchased, you can no longer gamble. Simply make the rules exactly the same for eval and funded.
  • #49,077
  • Edited 6:49pm May 31, 2025 6:35pm | Edited 6:49pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The problem is the props need gamblers to keep the income stream of fees coming in......then when you pass and earn the product you purchased, you can no longer gamble. Simply make the rules exactly the same for eval and funded.
The best promotion currently is MFFU, starter plus at 89 $. ( with no activation fee and no DLL )

Better than Tradeify STF account.

The deal closes today. Only 3 uses / user though.
Intraday only.
  • #49,078
  • Edited 8:03am Jun 1, 2025 7:44am | Edited 8:03am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} As far as i know Futureselite still pays...purchased them coz of 40% discount which cost 60$ a piece for 50k accounts.. cheap ones always make me drooling....... For mffu starter plan there is a affiliate 5% discount out there but need to search the internet for it... I found couple on twiitter and paid 92$ per account.... Tradeify i am planning to purchase 150kx5 straight to funded with next payout.... coz its a big investment close to 2400$ so need a payout to buy those....... other than that currently i have 50kx5 futureselite, 50kx20...
Monty,

A honest question to you and every one of us who are trading prop firms.

1) You spent 129k CAD for a return of around 300k CAD in 2024 according to your statement.
2) As you know, prop firm trading payouts.. lots of if and but including payout cheating, banning, rules which are difficult to adhere etc
3) You have still managed to take out around 300 k which is good. But is it really good ?
4) Coniser a private mt4/mt5 account with 130k deposit
5) With the kind of bold approach you have and trading skills you have, you could have amassed 1 M last year?
6) Assuming 0.5 % to 1 % per day ( on a cumulative basis ) in a private account, you could have reached 1 M for sure.

And finally, are we lured into Prop firms by prop firm entusiasts and loyalists who are paid commission ?

IMO, Prop trading is basically for people who do not have sufficient capital to invest.
Intraday only.
  • #49,079
  • Jun 1, 2025 8:09am Jun 1, 2025 8:09am
Quoting navk
{quote} Monty, A honest question to you and every one of us who are trading prop firms. 1) You spent 129k CAD for a return of around 300k CAD in 2024 according to your statement. 2) As you know, prop firm trading payouts.. lots of if and but including payout cheating, banning, rules which are difficult to adhere etc 3) You have still managed to take out around 300 k which is good. But is it really good ? 4) Coniser a private mt4/mt5 account with 130k deposit 5) With the kind of bold approach you have and trading skills you have, you could have amassed...
Risk per trade is way too high for a personal account, think of all of the attempts, what was it 600 apex evals?
You cannot throw that kind of REAL money around
  • #49,080
  • Jun 1, 2025 8:20am Jun 1, 2025 8:20am
Quoting navk
{quote} Monty, A honest question to you and every one of us who are trading prop firms. 1) You spent 129k CAD for a return of around 300k CAD in 2024 according to your statement. 2) As you know, prop firm trading payouts.. lots of if and but including payout cheating, banning, rules which are difficult to adhere etc 3) You have still managed to take out around 300 k which is good. But is it really good ? 4) Coniser a private mt4/mt5 account with 130k deposit 5) With the kind of bold approach you have and trading skills you have, you could have amassed...
If you are a "good" and "disciplined" trader I agree, but if you have even the slightest gambling bug, not a good or not a disciplined trader you are definitely will end up with nothing in the end. And you really do not need that much if you are a real good trader
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