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  • #49,021
  • May 27, 2025 5:37pm May 27, 2025 5:37pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Bulenox ... 91% off so only cost 16$ per account...
wait till they deduct 100% from your profit
  • #49,022
  • May 27, 2025 6:08pm May 27, 2025 6:08pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} wait till they deduct 100% from your profit
is there payout issues with bulenox ???
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  • #49,023
  • May 27, 2025 6:16pm May 27, 2025 6:16pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} is there payout issues with bulenox ???
not that I know of, but too cheap for them to survive.
  • #49,024
  • May 27, 2025 6:19pm May 27, 2025 6:19pm
Quoting Takisd
If people want "live" for CFD firms they have to deal with reality of trading.
-Couldn't FX firms simply use a handful of B-book brokers for their so-called live traders, though?
  • #49,025
  • May 27, 2025 6:49pm May 27, 2025 6:49pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Do you still trust FE? I moved away from them to BGF, but now after this payout situation I'm looking elsewhere. I had issues wit FE but at least they paid me. You paid $100 for MFFU? There aren't any discounts with them? What about Tradify, I'm looking at them as an option, pip says good things about them too.
Bulenox is better than anyother firm

15.75 + 148
Intraday only.
  • #49,026
  • May 27, 2025 6:56pm May 27, 2025 6:56pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} not that I know of, but too cheap for them to survive.
Nah, they charge like a $170 activation fee......so $186 for 50K, you can get a Tradeify 150K with triple the DD for less than 3 Bulenox 50K and not have to pass an eval.
The only reliable firms with evals that are less expensive than Tradeify STF as an "all-in" cost are MFFU and Take Profit.
These $16, 17, 22 evals with big activation fees actually cost you more "all-in" not even factoring in how many failed $16 YOLO attempts before you earn the priviledge to pay them another $170.
  • #49,027
  • May 27, 2025 7:01pm May 27, 2025 7:01pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Bulenox is better than anyother firm 15.75 + 148
so $163 for 50K, so 3 will run you $489....why YOLO an eval when you can just purchase the same DD for the same cost and just trade normal.
  • #49,028
  • Edited 8:02pm May 27, 2025 7:23pm | Edited 8:02pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} so $163 for 50K, so 3 will run you $489....why YOLO an eval when you can just purchase the same DD for the same cost and just trade normal.
I passed an eval long time ago but did not pay activation fee.

Generally, passing with 3k profit is easy. ( emotionally )

Making another 2600 also is easy to take profit of 1500 ( emotionally )
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  • #49,029
  • May 28, 2025 1:37am May 28, 2025 1:37am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Couldn't FX firms simply use a handful of B-book brokers for their so-called live traders, though?
Yes you could but if you design a program properly where there is actual a-booking, it could be a very good program. The programs that exist now including futures are not sustainable because its too easy to game them. I can almost guarantee passing an account now after seeing so many of the systems and without cheating because of the prop firm rails.

The "traders" out there think that loose rules are more realistic but its actually the opposite a lot of people who shouldnt be trading for money are trading for money. Whoever makes the first real process to a-book in CFD's wins the market I think but there will be a lot of crying when they do because it will likely be very tight rules.
  • #49,030
  • May 28, 2025 4:56am May 28, 2025 4:56am
1.25%, seems really low. I dunno, on X it seems like Bambi her cousin Vinny and his pitbull are all pulling $ on futures. Even with the BS caveat on X content, the fact that there are liquidity snags at big ones like Apex seem to suggest that the model is finding its limits with more participation from savvy punters with multiple accounts. A booking these guys and 6 month ban from buying new evals could be enforced; just thinking out loud here.
  • #49,031
  • May 28, 2025 6:07am May 28, 2025 6:07am
Quoting deukae
1.25%, seems really low. I dunno, on X it seems like Bambi her cousin Vinny and his pitbull are all pulling $ on futures. Even with the BS caveat on X content, the fact that there are liquidity snags at big ones like Apex seem to suggest that the model is finding its limits with more participation from savvy punters with multiple accounts. A booking these guys and 6 month ban from buying new evals could be enforced; just thinking out loud here.
This is the affiliate grift. Most of these affiliates are having promotional accounts for money. They went from being hedgers to just asking for free account to promote in exchange for a % of the payout they make or a fixed monthly fee. Swaymarkets and a few others did it with brokerage accounts as well.
  • #49,032
  • May 28, 2025 6:36am May 28, 2025 6:36am
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Do you still trust FE? I moved away from them to BGF, but now after this payout situation I'm looking elsewhere. I had issues wit FE but at least they paid me. You paid $100 for MFFU? There aren't any discounts with them? What about Tradify, I'm looking at them as an option, pip says good things about them too.
I abandoned FE. They started cutting more from my payouts citing rule infringements (eg. buy 1 lot of gold, close it, then buy again a few hours later was considered as DCA). I decided to abandon my accounts and leave with some profit in hand.

The last payout was them reversing all my credit card charges instead of depositing money using Rise. Thought it wasn't a good sign.
  • #49,033
  • May 28, 2025 7:29am May 28, 2025 7:29am
Quoting maltrader
{quote} I abandoned FE. They started cutting more from my payouts citing rule infringements (eg. buy 1 lot of gold, close it, then buy again a few hours later was considered as DCA). I decided to abandon my accounts and leave with some profit in hand. The last payout was them reversing all my credit card charges instead of depositing money using Rise. Thought it wasn't a good sign.
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  • #49,034
  • May 28, 2025 12:19pm May 28, 2025 12:19pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Ok guys, another update, nothing good. Today is day 14 since requesting payout and I'm still waiting to get my payout. I've emailed them, opened tickets on discord, and just get the same generic responses telling me to be patient and its being processed. The odd thing I've seen others getting payouts after waiting 5-7 days, its still longer than the 48 hours they advertise, but getting processed before mine, it almost seems like they fcuking with me. I don't know what more I can do, and the other thing is that my accounts have been paused...
Ok I can now definitely confirm BGF is the biggest bunch of bullshitters.

After 15 days of waiting they just told me today they can't pay me because my Rise ID has expired. I checked my Rise dashboard and everything is fine, nothing has expired and my Rise ID is verified and active.

They said I need to contact rise support and until I renew my ID they can't pay me. I told them if this is the case the why didn't they say anything in the beginning, why only come with this story after 2 weeks?

What rubbish, there is nothing wrong with my Rise ID, this is just another bullshit delay tactic to not have to payout.

Stay away from BGF guys, save yourselves the stress and issues.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #49,035
  • May 28, 2025 12:27pm May 28, 2025 12:27pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Ok I can now definitely confirm BGF is the biggest bunch of bullshitters. After 15 days of waiting they just told me today they can't pay me because my Rise ID has expired. I checked my Rise dashboard and everything is fine, nothing has expired and my Rise ID is verified and active. They said I need to contact rise support and until I renew my ID they can't pay me. I told them if this is the case the why didn't they say anything in the beginning, why only come with this story after 2 weeks? What rubbish, there is nothing wrong with my Rise...
i didnot know rise id can get expired as well... i its a normal account how the hell it can expire????/
How big is the payout?? is it 1500?
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  • #49,036
  • May 28, 2025 12:31pm May 28, 2025 12:31pm
Awful day today.... DLL all over the board... Lost many evals as well.....

Gold was totally frustrating today.......

Lost 40x50k evals from apex so far (both time i was over 2k profits before trailing killed me)... Purchased again with 90%..... I am gonna try as many times as it gets to get 50kx20 PA witht 90% off.... But not gonna activate then at all....

Activation with only happen with next payout either BGF or top1futures both has potential of a payday in coming week..... thts a huge investment 140$x20 = 2800$ .....
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  • #49,037
  • May 28, 2025 12:35pm May 28, 2025 12:35pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i didnot know rise id can get expired as well... i its a normal account how the hell it can expire????/ How big is the payout?? is it 1500?
Me neither, its all bullshit, I contacted Rise support and everything is fine, my ID has not expired, it's all fine, this is just another delay tactic.

Waiting for 2 x $1500 so $3k.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #49,038
  • May 28, 2025 1:28pm May 28, 2025 1:28pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Me neither, its all bullshit, I contacted Rise support and everything is fine, my ID has not expired, it's all fine, this is just another delay tactic. Waiting for 2 x $1500 so $3k.
Third try the charm..... Nearly there
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  • #49,039
  • May 28, 2025 1:58pm May 28, 2025 1:58pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Third try the charm..... Nearly there {image} {image} {image}
Finally secured 50kx20 APex.... June is going to be completely focused on apex n get a payout out of it...... 40k here i come.............
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  • #49,040
  • May 28, 2025 6:14pm May 28, 2025 6:14pm
Got to say, the number of times you spend in "risk" at the 5ers is a bit shocking. Why are they policing post passing (in this case scaling) ? Why aren't you real time monitoring.....
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