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  • #48,741
  • May 12, 2025 10:28am May 12, 2025 10:28am
Quoting montygoldy
Update on blueguardian - Its been 72h in support since i asked for removing payout restriction as i crossed 80 days + 3 payouts..... Nothing no one bothering to answer that...... So i went forward to ask atleast 1500$ payout. Last time it got reject this time i did way tighter stuff.... 1 trade a day mostly every trade fixed SIZE, SL and MINIMUM TP........ MOFO even tried to hold positions more than a 1 minute otherwise they say microscalping even its a min. 2$ target on gold with 1mini which you cant micro scalp easily..... What i have realised...
your trading is fine its just them that dont want to payout
  • #48,742
  • May 12, 2025 11:37pm May 12, 2025 11:37pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} its just another unattainable promotion. Most companies have these with scaling plans and "salary" promises etc. Perhaps they should change drawdown rules instead? Or payout rules? Something thats actually attainable and attractive.
15-20k is unattainable? BTW, what is wrong with their drawdown rules and Pay out rules?
  • #48,743
  • May 13, 2025 2:09am May 13, 2025 2:09am
Quoting montygoldy
Update on blueguardian - Its been 72h in support since i asked for removing payout restriction as i crossed 80 days + 3 payouts..... Nothing no one bothering to answer that...... So i went forward to ask atleast 1500$ payout. Last time it got reject this time i did way tighter stuff.... 1 trade a day mostly every trade fixed SIZE, SL and MINIMUM TP........ MOFO even tried to hold positions more than a 1 minute otherwise they say microscalping even its a min. 2$ target on gold with 1mini which you cant micro scalp easily..... What i have realised...
if you would do exactly your trading style inside a real live account .... what yearly profit and drawdown would you expect to get? did you ever test it to copy this one by one or in demo account over long term as test?
  • #48,744
  • May 13, 2025 7:10am May 13, 2025 7:10am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} if you would do exactly your trading style inside a real live account .... what yearly profit and drawdown would you expect to get? did you ever test it to copy this one by one or in demo account over long term as test?
The issue with doing so is this.....the DD allowed on a prop account would be the starting balance in a personal account as that is MAX LOSS in both. However, the prop account provides the buying power of the actual balance, which in futures is generally 20 times the DD. So you are trading the buying power of 50K with the actual availability of $2,500......which of course, is why 98% fail.
In other words, you cannot trade 5 minis with a $2,500 balance.
  • #48,745
  • May 13, 2025 7:44am May 13, 2025 7:44am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The issue with doing so is this.....the DD allowed on a prop account would be the starting balance in a personal account as that is MAX LOSS in both. However, the prop account provides the buying power of the actual balance, which in futures is generally 20 times the DD. So you are trading the buying power of 50K with the actual availability of $2,500......which of course, is why 98% fail. In other words, you cannot trade 5 minis with a $2,500 balance.
often even different. real account the money is gone... so you cant do it so risky and need survive long term.
  • #48,746
  • May 13, 2025 7:52am May 13, 2025 7:52am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} often even different. real account the money is gone... so you cant do it so risky and need survive long term.
Yes, the only way to YOLO these evals is to simply consider the "fee" as one trade in a personal account...you are still doing a 1.2:1 RR on the trade, but getting 25-50 times the fee in terms of DD if you hit. You can literally have a 10% winning rate and still be successful, assuming you trade the DD normally once funded.
  • #48,747
  • May 13, 2025 8:31am May 13, 2025 8:31am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} if you would do exactly your trading style inside a real live account .... what yearly profit and drawdown would you expect to get? did you ever test it to copy this one by one or in demo account over long term as test?
Man i am addicted to prop firms now...Specifically, the Cheap ass ones like 50$ or 90$ max per eval ......
Coz i can be wreckless somedays n blow up everything but still its piece of mind coz i lost 90$ max out of my pocket ...... If i had those monstrous STUPID losses on my live account i would be smashing my computer screeen everyday....

Also i realised for ME personally DONT have a switch mindset between YOLO and disciplined trading. So i am better focused towards prop firms in order not to make same mistakes in live trading....

Plus ofcourse live is a slow grind and I LOVE FAST N FURIOUS, LIVING ON THE EDGE
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #48,748
  • May 13, 2025 8:59am May 13, 2025 8:59am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Man i am addicted to prop firms now...Specifically, the Cheap ass ones like 50$ or 90$ max per eval ...... Coz i can be wreckless somedays n blow up everything but still its piece of mind coz i lost 90$ max out of my pocket ...... If i had those monstrous STUPID losses on my live account i would be smashing my computer screeen everyday.... Also i realised for ME personally DONT have a switch mindset between YOLO and disciplined trading. So i am better focused towards prop firms in order not to make same mistakes in live trading.... Plus...
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  • #48,749
  • May 13, 2025 9:22am May 13, 2025 9:22am
Quoting Takisd
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Last night, I had an online poker tourney on one screen, watching sports I had bet on in the middle monitor, and trading the Asia session on my third monitor.
  • #48,750
  • May 13, 2025 9:47am May 13, 2025 9:47am
Quoting hotair
{quote} Have requested a payout with Legends Trading today. Will keep the forum updated about the progress.
Payouts received yesterday!
Keep in mind that you need 10 days of trading, and there are only 2 request windows per month, so it's kind of a slow process.
But on the other hand, they allow 10 accounts.
  • #48,751
  • May 13, 2025 10:37am May 13, 2025 10:37am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Last night, I had an online poker tourney on one screen, watching sports I had bet on in the middle monitor, and trading the Asia session on my third monitor.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #48,752
  • May 13, 2025 10:39am May 13, 2025 10:39am
Quoting Takisd
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its a real thing lol......

I have one 11 km from my home...... wtf... gonna check them out for sure on weekend.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #48,753
  • May 13, 2025 10:49am May 13, 2025 10:49am
Quoting pipmaster77
Last night, I had an online poker tourney on one screen, watching sports I had bet on in the middle monitor, and trading the Asia session on my third monitor.
-I would call that sophisticated gambling.

When I worked valet at a casino many years ago, I remember seeing cars with so many used scratchers tickets, that you couldn't even see the floorboard or the passenger seat. This happened on multiple occasions. Total rookies.
  • #48,754
  • May 13, 2025 11:03am May 13, 2025 11:03am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} its a real thing lol...... I have one 11 km from my home...... wtf... gonna check them out for sure on weekend.....
Personally I like to walk on the wild side. Trade my prop accounts 4 whiskeys in with old western music.
  • #48,755
  • May 13, 2025 11:07am May 13, 2025 11:07am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-I would call that sophisticated gambling. When I worked valet at a casino many years ago, I remember seeing cars with so many used scratchers tickets, that you couldn't even see the floorboard or the passenger seat. This happened on multiple occasions. Total rookies.
Yes, I cashed in the tourney, hit the 4 leg parlay and grabbed 18 points shorting 4 micros on the S&P.
  • #48,756
  • May 13, 2025 4:18pm May 13, 2025 4:18pm
https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/9074-25
  • #48,757
  • May 13, 2025 4:31pm May 13, 2025 4:31pm
Quoting Takisd
https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/9074-25
Takisd what this mean i am bad in interpeting english
  • #48,758
  • May 13, 2025 4:37pm May 13, 2025 4:37pm
Ok guys, I finally managed to get under that stupid consistency rule and put in a withdrawal request with BGF.

Let's hope I don't have any issues with the payout.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #48,759
  • May 13, 2025 4:38pm May 13, 2025 4:38pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} Takisd what this mean i am bad in interpeting english
The CFTC lost, not only the sanctions but the case. To the best of my knowledge MFF has to now fight the OSC in canada but CFTC is out of the way.
  • #48,760
  • May 13, 2025 4:59pm May 13, 2025 4:59pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} The CFTC lost, not only the sanctions but the case. To the best of my knowledge MFF has to now fight the OSC in canada but CFTC is out of the way.
How likely is it that MFF wins from the OSC and get’s back in business ?
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