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Vancarbon
Apr 9, 2025 4:15pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
Liar liar, pants on fire. LOSER You will see. Lost the trust of markets and the global community. Way to go.
Yes , Liberation Day to U -Turn Day in a week .

He bottled it , his credibility is now in question . He’s become weaker because of this U - turn , the markets make policy not political leaders .

The tax cut revenue is now in question . Also remember there’s still 10% tariffs across the board .
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Niru
Apr 9, 2025 5:13pm
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I didn't know the pause would have that impact, really? such blatant insider trading.

90 day pause!

oh wait, we didn't have time to call our brokers!!

Oh, okay. No 90 day pause!

Did Everyone call?? 90 day pause!
The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 9:14am
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Trump probably winced at seeing the stock market drop consistently in relation to his dumbass tariff moves. But what really spooked him was the crazy moves in global credit Wednesday. This is why he has squelched the "reciprocal" tariff bs. Stocks will go down and up, but you can't break the bond market.
Vancarbon
Apr 9, 2025 3:56pm
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Yes , the unofficial leak Monday , which was denied .

You’re gaming the markets . I’m sure the inner circle is benefiting from this sh*t show .

It’s farcical for a President and the global leader to act in this way . Get your act together .
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 3:22am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}When was the last time anyone saw a clown bring over 80 countries to the negotiating table at one time?
You guys are pure clowns if you're that fuckig stupid to think that this is about negotiations. There is nothing to negotiate!!! This guy is a fucking moron, a bully and a psycho. Everyone else is trying to act like a grownup and not destroy so many people's livelihoods. What the fuck is it so hard for you to understand the this guy is not right in the head.
There are 1000 other ways to negotiate if that's what you want. You don't destroy the world's economy and then negotiate.
This is a clown show, pure and simple.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 7:39am
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MAGA is so dense that they put Osmium to shame.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 2:40am
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Quoting CashBox
The "90 day pause" is to allow for negotiations. If a country hasn't completed negotiations by 90 days then it's game on again. The pause has nothing to do with losing credibility or people "in the know" making money in the market. Anyone with an actual brain understands by now that there is so much attention being placed on anyone related to Trump that everyone in his inner circle knows they wouldn't be able to get away with anything that looks like trading on inside information even if what they did was legal? Some of you are...
Anyone with a brain would have given a 90 day window for negotiation first instead of imposing it and then flip flop due to the market's adverse reaction. Nice try to spin the facts. lol
As for insider trading, just look into MJT's funds transfered into T bonds just before the mayhem.
https://readsludge.com/2025/04/07/mt...-market-crash/
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:48am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} If you were an actual trader, you would have known of the reversal area at the 50% fib area for over 3 months before it happened and that that is often the profit target and reversal point of institutional traders.
You were hiding during the upheaval like all other maga. Why didn't you valiently point out to the fibo while it was going on? You have just found some coincidences after the flip flop and act like you knew the flip was going to happen and the fibo was going to line up. Fact is you didn't know sh t like everyone else.
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 3:15am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} Yes, you are correct, it was a strategic move and caused the admin of over 80 countries to fold and they are now at the negotiation table. Well said.
Oh please , don’t try that narrative . Many countries were making concessions well in advance of the tariffs and they were brushed aside .

It was the US administration that folded due to the market response . Let’s leave it at that . I always try to be fair with my commentary .
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 4:45am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}OMG you are so far gone is not even funny. Look at what China has achieved under this current system in the last 30 years. Why in the hell would anyone want the degradation of a so-called democracy? By the time the US Congress approves an infrastructure bill, China will have already built a few more cities. China is not afraid of the US; it is the other way around. The US is terrified of losing its place to China, but this is inevitable. China is way more efficient and effective on so many levels. This is why the US is trying to sabotage...
…..and therein lies the root of this issue .

Well said, absolutely nailed it .

The US enabled China to become the 2nd global superpower via its outsourcing . China quietly went about a transformation, from a poor backward nation to the greatest exporting nation the world has ever seen . The CCP has changed the lives of most impoverished Chinese to that of a level resembling some countries in the West . Whilst the US was too busy vying for geopolitical supremacy and dominance through military strength , the Chinese quietly went about their business of building economic relations and strength through alliances .

If the US wants someone to blame , look right in the mirror . I’ll say it again, this didn’t happen on Trumps watch , and they’re trying to square the circle and wrestle back some of the competitiveness from the application of tariffs . That ship may have sailed though .
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:44pm
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Wow, the chinese communist party workers are really laying it on thick today.
Shows how scared they are when they have to market communism this hard.
The ccp is losing power.
Freedom and democracy are coming to china.
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 3:00am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} I bet you sold when DJT said buy. Shame.
OMG, man!!! Your comment is so pathetic. We all just having a laugh and the rest of the world. The guy is a fucking clown and so are you for not figuring it out yet.
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 3:34am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is what it looks like when you win an argument...a total melt down of the other side because they have no facts, no truth, no nothing.
You're a moron. And a clown.
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 3:53am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} If you were an actual trader, you would have known of the reversal area at the 50% fib area for over 3 months before it happened and that that is often the profit target and reversal point of institutional traders.
You're a clown.
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 4:18am
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Quoting CashBox
The result will be bye bye Chinese Communist Party. Bye bye One World Government. And, hello Democracy for China!
OMG you are so far gone is not even funny. Look at what China has achieved under this current system in the last 30 years. Why in the hell would anyone want the degradation of a so-called democracy? By the time the US Congress approves an infrastructure bill, China will have already built a few more cities. China is not afraid of the US; it is the other way around. The US is terrified of losing its place to China, but this is inevitable. China is way more efficient and effective on so many levels. This is why the US is trying to sabotage their growth.
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Jade Gate
Apr 9, 2025 4:06pm
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Liar liar, pants on fire. LOSER You will see. Lost the trust of markets and the global community. Way to go.
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TudorIoan
Apr 10, 2025 5:09am
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It's a bad strategy. It ignores retaliation. If the world responds, that will nullify "positive protectionism" for the US. Besides his economic illiteracy, Trump also plays stupid on foreign affairs.
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W0lfram
Apr 9, 2025 5:30pm
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Trump flips sides 2-3 times a week. Hamsters don't - they spin the wheel!
They've already forgotten about L-day.
They're like narrative janitors, mopping up contradictions with patriotic slogans. 'winning' every time lol
TableTop
Apr 9, 2025 5:21pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
Liar liar, pants on fire. LOSER You will see. Lost the trust of markets and the global community. Way to go.
It is a total walk back of his liberation day policy. The US is no longer liberated?
Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 4:33am
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The only way the West can take on China or Russia or any other threat is if it is united. Under Trump, this goal will never be achieved. He is incapable of this.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:11am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}When was the last time anyone saw a clown bring over 80 countries to the negotiating table at one time?
There have been instances of a clown taking hostages and more than 80 sane and trained experts have come to negotiate with him for a positive outcome. You can google this sort of thing by yourself.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:40am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}I'm guessing you do not have an economics background, so I'll try to help you here: If country A is buying $438 billion dollars worth of stuff from country B and country B is only buying $165 billion dollars worth of stuff from country A then who does simple math an 8 year old can do have the upper hand? Answer: The US. China will implode without the US buying $438 billion in product from them. The Chinese Communist Party will disappear if billions of China's people rise up and trample them because the CCP makes the mistake of starving their...
Maybe you can look past your nose and see that China's exports to the world were 3577.22 billions in 2024. It's exports to US were only a fraction of that number. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ds-from-china/ China still has the world market at it's disposal even if a whiny bankrupt one wants to leave and get the same stuff for cheaper somewhere else (good luck).

I doubt you with your self proclaimed economic background were even aware of those numbers since you think US is the centre of the universe.

Additionally, China didn't export stuff to US by holding a gun to US's head. US, begged for those products because they are unable to produce them because of low talent, no factories and high cost of production even if they could. If US wants to go produce the items, who is stopping it? Go produce and consume them yourselves.
Needless to say, the tariff war is not about China alone. It's US vs. the world in case you with your sharp economic mind didn't take notice of that detail.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:46am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} I can see you need to always have the last word and be correct , so I’ll agree with you and say I don’t trade . Sigh ! If only I knew it was a double bottom in hindsight .
All he is doing is gaslighting...changing facts and distracting, spinning..obviously a graduate of Trump university.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 4:06am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}Oh, no, he got me...lol. I'm so scared of his math! China will have massive economic issues if they lose 1/8th of their trade, but you're forgetting something. You're forgetting that the government will directly lose the $149 billion in tariff money on top of losing 1/8 of their trade. That's going to kill communist hand outs to keep the people under control. Again, the US has over 80 other countries negotiating who are preparing and excited about selling the US things with ZERO tariffs. That's over SIXTEEN PERCENT of China's income GONE....
Why are you worrying about what China loses?
Obviously they don't give a s*it or think whatever they may lose is worth losing than to deal with the current lunetics at the helm in US. You should worry more about US which is pretty much bankrupt with the greatest, biggest most tremendous debt the likes of which the world has never seen before.
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TudorIoan
Apr 10, 2025 4:12am
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Americans rely on China much more than vice versa.
It's the American consumers that are going to suffer because America imports essentially 3 to 4 times the amounts of goods from China.

Also, the Chinese have other ways of protecting their economy, including, for example, boosting domestic consumption, hidden subsidies, currency manipulation.....

Americans got fucked by the Fackface Baron, and there are still MAGA morons here who cheer for the psycho!
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 4:12am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}People know by now that the things you say are you projecting what you are doing and how you feel about yourself onto others.
Whatever, go for a walk and calm yourself down before you pull the rest of your hair out.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 4:21am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}I've enjoyed our conversation. Thank you for the opportunity to destroy everything you and your ccp paid friends have been lying about on FF for months and months in just a couple of hours. It's been fun.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 4:42am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} Thank you for telling the world why the US is taking Its stance on tariffs. You've been very helpful today.
Blackmailing the world economy is not the way to fix it. Read Nick's comment above and learn.
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The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 10:18am
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Quoting Trader#569A
{quote} Yeah!!! And he PROBABLY called his boyfriend Pultler and asked him what he would do! And then he PROBALY got scared of China because he’s a big dum dum meany head!!! And then he PROBABLY hurried over to here and to Reddit to see what all the intelligent, totally sane, totally not suffering from low t posters had to say because he’s just a big dum dum poo poo man!
Ok. He said he needed insane reciprocal tariffs for all kinds of fictional reasons. Then he did complete 180 on that. I won't ask you to explain that since you are too busy fantasizing about licking his asshole.
The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 11:54am
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Quoting Trader#6ABB
{quote} Go on, project whatever ideals you need onto me for your emotional blather to feel reasonable. It’s the only way a man like you can feel purpose in life. Maybe you should use a few more playground insults to really drive home your concept that someone else is a “trumptard” which is ironically the perfect description of your behavior here day in and day out.
You're boring.
Jade Gate
Apr 10, 2025 4:01pm
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*sitting ring side with popcorn and a drink watching the boys slug it out* Go tag team !!! Rooting for ya (altho in Aussie vernacular, that term means smth entirely different )
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 3:35am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} Wow, you don't trade do you? If you did trade, you would know that the markets put in a double bottom and started reversing up on Monday during London session. Um, that was quite a while prior to the 90 day pause for negotiations to be done. So, now we know you do not belong on FF because you are not a trader.
I can see you need to always have the last word and be correct , so I’ll agree with you and say I don’t trade .

Sigh ! If only I knew it was a double bottom in hindsight .
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 3:52am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} All he is doing is gaslighting...changing facts and distracting, spinning..obviously a graduate of Trump university.
I’m not sure what he’s trying to prove if I’m honest . I know a lot of you lads like the squabbling/banter , it’s not really my thing . I say things as I see them , politics aside .

I’d say the same if Biden done the same stunt , or any government for that matter . The US administration folded , simple as that .

I’m not sure what my trading ( even though I don’t , allegedly) has got to do with it .
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 4:02am
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Quoting Nick.
Almost everyone in Trump's circle is against this dumb move, including even Musk, except for these clowns. Big-time traders who think they know everything
I’m agreeing with you on the circle comment, not if he’s a big time trader . That I don’t know ( or care )
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 6:41am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote}You said that Trumps methodology which you said is bad, moved the Stocks Up very strongly. You contradicting yourself.
I really shouldn’t have to spell it out for you , but here goes :

The market was selling off fast and hard , bond yields going through the roof . US raising Chinese reciprocal tariffs on a daily basis , China matching the US tariffs in an all out trade war .

Then as Trump folded due to market pressure and extreme volatility, China not buckling as intended, he knew he had no option but to ease back , using the words “ temporary pause “ , to save face .

Is that clear enough for you why the short covering rally occurred . It was risk off for a while . Let’s see if it’s only temporary .

Ask yourself how the tax cuts are achieved without the revenue .

Sigh !
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W0lfram
Apr 10, 2025 7:23am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote}How did he fold if he raised the China Tariffs to 125%
If the memory serves, you were spamming the threads that China will fold.
Result? Trump caved like no one ever did before. China will use the same scheme as countries that are under sanctions. Already using.

Explain to us Trump's logic:
Trade deficit = being ripped off
Tariffs = leverage
No tariffs = no leverage = continued exploitation

Have you already forgotten about L(ooser)-day? He caved, but for you it's 4D checkmate now?
CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 2:29am
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The "90 day pause" is to allow for negotiations. If a country hasn't completed negotiations by 90 days then it's game on again. The pause has nothing to do with losing credibility or people "in the know" making money in the market.

Anyone with an actual brain understands by now that there is so much attention being placed on anyone related to Trump that everyone in his inner circle knows they wouldn't be able to get away with anything that looks like trading on inside information even if what they did was legal?

Some of you are paid to be saying this stuff and that is sad, but it's more sad that people believe the paid puppets.

Will the puppets also being saying soon that anyone who shorted big pharma is doing insider trading? I mean, after all, Trump is going after them next to force them to bring their manufacturing back to the US. Gasp, oh, no, insider trading, insider trading. The puppets are predictable and pitiful.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 2:48am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Anyone with a brain would have given a 90 day window for negotiation first instead of imposing it and then flip flop due to the market's adverse reaction. Nice try to spin the facts. lol As for insider trading, just look into MJT's funds transfered into T bills just before the mayhem. https://readsludge.com/2025/04/07/mt...-market-crash/
lol, you're right. The tariffs never went into effect except on China yesterday and everyone except China has 90 days to negotiate.
I didn't realize you understood how negotiations happen. Well done.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 2:51am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Nah, I haven't bought or sold anything based on what he said or did. I do my thing despite his existance. In fact one of my computers went off due to MS update and I haven't been home due to work for a week to turn it on, so my holdings are just floating as they were before his diarrhea issue.
Well, at least you admit that you're not really a trader and that you have no right to be on FF.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:07am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}OMG, man!!! Your comment is so pathetic. We all just having a laugh and the rest of the world. The guy is a fucking clown and so are you for not figuring it out yet.
When was the last time anyone saw a clown bring over 80 countries to the negotiating table at one time?
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:11am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}The 90-day pause is a permanent pause. The bond market put his ass into check. Your a clown as well. As a matter of fact all the trumpturds are all looking stupid now. I wouldn't even comment anything if I were you. Its fucking embarasing.
lol, the very word "pause" has zero permanence to it unless something changes. The only change that would move this from being a 90 day pause to something permanent is to come to the agreement of a level playing field in trade.

I would like to encourage you to go back to school and learn what words mean.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:13am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} There have been instances of a clown taking hostages and more than 80 sane and trained experts have come to negotiate with him for a positive outcome. You can google this sort of thing by yourself.
Feel free to provide your own proof here. I'm not doing your work for you.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:45am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} I can see you need to always have the last word and be correct , so I’ll agree with you and say I don’t trade . Sigh ! If only I knew it was a double bottom in hindsight .
If you were an actual trader, you would have known of the reversal area at the 50% fib area for over 3 months before it happened and that that is often the profit target and reversal point of institutional traders.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:00am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Maybe you can look past your nose and see that China's exports to the world were 3577.22 billions in 2024. It's exports to US were only a fraction of that number. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ds-from-china/ China still has the world market at it's disposal even if a whiny bankrupt one wants to leave and get the same stuff for cheaper somewhere else (good luck). I doubt you with your self proclaimed economic background were even aware of those numbers since you think US is the centre of the universe....
Oh, no, he got me...lol. I'm so scared of his math!
China will have massive economic issues if they lose 1/8th of their trade, but you're forgetting something.
You're forgetting that the government will directly lose the $149 billion in tariff money on top of losing 1/8 of their trade. That's going to kill communist hand outs to keep the people under control.

Again, the US has over 80 other countries negotiating who are preparing and excited about selling the US things with ZERO tariffs.

That's over SIXTEEN PERCENT of China's income GONE.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:05am
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Quoting Nick.
Almost everyone in Trump's circle is against this dumb move, including even Musk, except for these clowns. Big-time traders who think they know everything
If you actually read what Musk said, you would realize that Musk isn't against this. Musk was upset at one of Trump's advisors because the advisor didn't know that Tesla's have the highest % of American made parts in their US vehicles than any other cars made in the US.

Again, you are just parroting what you've been told and not reading anything for yourself.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:07am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Why are you worrying about what China loses? Obviously they don't give a s*it or think whatever they may lose is worth losing than to deal with the current lunetics at the helm. You should worry more about US which is pretty much bankrupt with the greatest, biggest most tremendous debt that the world has ever seen.
Why is the US bankrupt?
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:10am
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Quoting OutThere
This the current condition of maga The phrase "tying themselves into a knott" (or "tie oneself in knots") is an informal idiom that means to become very confused, upset, or anxious, often because of trying to explain something poorly or overthinking a situation. Here's a more detailed explanation: Meaning: The idiom "tie oneself in knots" suggests a state of mental entanglement or confusion, similar to a tangled rope or cord. {image}
People know by now that the things you say are you projecting what you are doing and how you feel about yourself onto others.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:12am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Why are you worrying about what China loses? Obviously they don't give a s*it or think whatever they may lose is worth losing than to deal with the current lunetics at the helm in US. You should worry more about US which is pretty much bankrupt with the greatest, biggest most tremendous debt the likes of which the world has never seen before.
Again, when you see an answer like this ^^^^^^^^^^^^, you know they have no answer for the facts. So, people, please go back and read what I wrote that he has no answer for. It's very important to know and understand these facts.

If the Chinese Communist Party does not change their stance on tariffs and theft of technology, it will be the end of the Party's reign in China.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:24am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} On the verge of bankrupcy. You don't google much do you? Stuck in your closet? Here's a breakdown of the situation: Growing National Debt: The US has accumulated a substantial national debt, which has been exacerbated by factors like the COVID-19 pandemic and ongoing government spending. Rising Interest Payments: As the debt grows, so do the interest payments the government must make, potentially diverting funds from other crucial areas like infrastructure, education, and healthcare. Trade Deficit: The US has a large trade deficit, meaning...
Thank you for telling the world why the US is taking Its stance on tariffs. You've been very helpful today.
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 3:04am
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Quoting CashBox
The "90 day pause" is to allow for negotiations. If a country hasn't completed negotiations by 90 days then it's game on again. The pause has nothing to do with losing credibility or people "in the know" making money in the market. Anyone with an actual brain understands by now that there is so much attention being placed on anyone related to Trump that everyone in his inner circle knows they wouldn't be able to get away with anything that looks like trading on inside information even if what they did was legal? Some of you are...
The 90-day pause is a permanent pause. The bond market put his ass into check. Your a clown as well. As a matter of fact all the trumpturds are all looking stupid now. I wouldn't even comment anything if I were you. Its fucking embarasing.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 6:19am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} What happened yesterday? I saw a very strong rise in US Stocks.
Trump came to his senses and backed out.
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The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 12:45pm
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You exist only to respond to me. Keep trying. I have trades to work for the next two hrs, though. Make it special.
Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 11:37am
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Why do all the #traders use pseudonyms to attempt a rebuttal ?

Get a pair - Log in , and say your piece . The influx of #Traders is comparable with the reciprocal tariffs .
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Goat
Apr 9, 2025 7:08pm
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So we're not liberated then??
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:22am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Listen, this is a fact: In any negotiation, there has to be a win-win outcome. If not, the sides will go find a win-win situation somewhere else. The 80 or whatever BIG niumber you want to come up with are looking for a win sooner or later if this doesn't pan out for them. Duh
I'm guessing you do not have an economics background, so I'll try to help you here: If country A is buying $438 billion dollars worth of stuff from country B and country B is only buying $165 billion dollars worth of stuff from country A then who does simple math an 8 year old can do have the upper hand?

Answer: The US. China will implode without the US buying $438 billion in product from them. The Chinese Communist Party will disappear if billions of China's people rise up and trample them because the CCP makes the mistake of starving their people.

There are over 80 countries at the negotiating table who cannot wait to take market share from China and the longer the CCP plays their game the more market share they lose.

Oh, and let's not forget that ALL Chinese listings on the US stock markets will be de-listed. That's billions and billions more damage to China's leaders.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:32am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} Exactly
It's very easy to destroy everything someone says when they are lying.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:01am
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The result will be bye bye Chinese Communist Party.
Bye bye One World Government.

And, hello Democracy for China!
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:06am
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Another result of this will be zero money available to pay the one world parrots on here.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:13am
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And the beginning of democracy for the Chinese people.
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Jr123
Apr 10, 2025 10:32am — Edited
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Quoting Trader#569A
{quote} Yeah!!! And he PROBABLY called his boyfriend Pultler and asked him what he would do! And then he PROBALY got scared of China because he’s a big dum dum meany head!!! And then he PROBABLY hurried over to here and to Reddit to see what all the intelligent, totally sane, totally not suffering from low t posters had to say because he’s just a big dum dum poo poo man!
How can a 5 year old be allowed to open a trading account. Did your mommy put it in her name.
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future911
Apr 9, 2025 4:24pm
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Ima just shut up at this point and hope for the best, he’s playing chess, let’s see how it ends up
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Nick.
Apr 10, 2025 3:59am
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Almost everyone in Trump's circle is against this dumb move, including even Musk, except for these clowns. Big-time traders who think they know everything
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BillyIdol
Apr 9, 2025 3:54pm
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All he is doing is cycles of market manipulations to enrich his friends. Me too, btw!
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HogTrader
Apr 10, 2025 8:49am
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I'm not impressed with leftie Jethro IQ! They sure do all they can to look like fools!
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 3:06am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote}OMG, man!!! Your comment is so pathetic. We all just having a laugh and the rest of the world. The guy is a fucking clown and so are you for not figuring it out yet.
So you also didnt buy yesterday. Shame. Your pencil neck must be the reason why blood is not getting to your brain. Traders trade, whiners whine. Losers always blame others.
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 3:26am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}I'm guessing you do not have an economics background, so I'll try to help you here: If country A is buying $438 billion dollars worth of stuff from country B and country B is only buying $165 billion dollars worth of stuff from country A then who does simple math an 8 year old can do have the upper hand? Answer: The US. China will implode without the US buying $438 billion in product from them. The Chinese Communist Party will disappear if billions of China's people rise up and trample them because the CCP makes the mistake of starving their...
Exactly
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 6:47am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} I really shouldn’t have to spell it out for you , but here goes : The market was selling off fast and hard , bond yields going through the roof . US raising Chinese reciprocal tariffs on a daily basis , China matching the US tariffs in an all out trade war . Then as Trump folded due to market pressure and extreme volatility, China not buckling as intended, he knew he had no option but to ease back , using the words “ temporary pause “ , to save face . Is that clear enough for you why the short covering rally occurred . It was risk off for...
How did he fold if he raised the China Tariffs to 125%
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Jade Gate
Apr 9, 2025 6:00pm
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Quoting Trader#9290
Let's see how long the 90 day pause lasts. I give it 15 days.
That's optimistic . Thing is, the "Great Pause" is contingent upon no other country contesting his edicts. Reckon a day or two will do it. He's lost face now, doubt anyone will have any trouble showing him the middle finger.
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OutThere
Apr 9, 2025 10:47pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} That's optimistic . Thing is, the "Great Pause" is contingent upon no other country contesting his edicts. Reckon a day or two will do it. He's lost face now, doubt anyone will have any trouble showing him the middle finger.
His move was similar to an idiot that needed to put his hand on a stove element and burn it to the bone just to comprehend that it is hot.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 2:31am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} I bet you sold when DJT said buy. Shame.
Nah, I haven't bought or sold anything based on what he said or did. I do my thing despite his existance. In fact one of my computers went off due to MS update and I haven't been home due to work for a week to turn it on, so my holdings are just floating as they were before his diarrhea issue.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 2:57am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}Well, at least you admit that you're not really a trader and that you have no right to be on FF.
When did I admit that I'm not a trader?
Are you OK? Did you suffer brain damage during the flip flop?
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:07am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} Yes, you are correct, it was a strategic move and caused the admin of over 80 countries to fold and they are now at the negotiation table. Well said.
Listen, this is a fact: In any negotiation, there has to be a win-win outcome. If not, the sides will go find a win-win situation somewhere else. The 80 or whatever BIG niumber you want to come up with are looking for a win sooner or later if this doesn't pan out for them. Duh
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:15am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} So you also didnt buy yesterday. Shame. Your pencil neck must be the reason why blood is not getting to your brain. Traders trade, whiners whine. Losers always blame others.
You are not only calling a great number of ordinary people whiners and losers, you are also calling Trumps supporters the same. Shows your respect for the society as a whole. https://www.forbes.com.au/news/billi...ks-to-tariffs/
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:54am
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This the current condition of maga

The phrase "tying themselves into a knott" (or "tie oneself in knots") is an informal idiom that means to become very confused, upset, or anxious, often because of trying to explain something poorly or overthinking a situation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Meaning:
The idiom "tie oneself in knots" suggests a state of mental entanglement or confusion, similar to a tangled rope or cord.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 4:17am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}Why is the US bankrupt?
On the verge of bankrupcy.

You don't google much do you? Stuck in your closet?

Here's a breakdown of the situation:
Growing National Debt:
The US has accumulated a substantial national debt, which has been exacerbated by factors like the COVID-19 pandemic and ongoing government spending.
Rising Interest Payments:
As the debt grows, so do the interest payments the government must make, potentially diverting funds from other crucial areas like infrastructure, education, and healthcare.
Trade Deficit:
The US has a large trade deficit, meaning it imports more goods and services than it exports, which contributes to the overall debt.
Concerns about Financial Instability:
US could face a financial crisis if the debt and interest payments continue to rise unchecked, potentially leading to a devaluation of the dollar.


bla bla bla

Stay in your denial. I don't care.
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OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 4:19am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}Again, when you see an answer like this ^^^^^^^^^^^^, you know they have no answer for the facts. So, people, please go back and read what I wrote that he has no answer for. It's very important to know and understand these facts. If the Chinese Communist Party does not change their stance on tariffs and theft of technology, it will be the end of the Party's reign in China.
I'm sure you will be very happy to see the end of China, so why are you worrying about them even more than them?
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The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 11:09am
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Calling out a fatuous trumptard asslicker is hardly what anyone would deem a "meltdown". But I get it. You don't have anything relevant to say and your sole mission is "owning the libs" so go ahead and try to be entertaining.
The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 11:44am
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I have complained about FF's allowance of "guest" commenters. It's free to join, then they can be put in one's Ignore bin if they are ignorant and boring. Most, I assume, are not traders, and just come here to scratch their culture war itch. But whatever.
The Fool
Apr 10, 2025 12:28pm
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Quoting Trader#569A
{quote} “I use an handle and you post as a guest!” Wow I never thought of it like that before. Of course you complained to the manager, the fool. Don’t cry because your echo chamber can be easily circumvented, why do you have almost 2,000 blocked accounts? Are you that sensitive of a man? And yeah I'm so sure people flock to forex factory for your culture wars. Funny you’d accidentally and indirectly admit that’s why you’re here. You certainly don’t post anything of relevance to markets.
Dance, bitch.
Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 2:44am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Anyone with a brain would have given a 90 day window for negotiation first instead of imposing it and then flip flop due to the market's adverse reaction. Nice try to spin the facts. lol
Yes , it was a strategic move . Game playing the markets , the whole financial system .

The administration folded, it’s that simple .
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 3:48am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote} If you were an actual trader, you would have known of the reversal area at the 50% fib area for over 3 months before it happened and that that is often the profit target and reversal point of institutional traders.
Sigh !
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 5:21am — Edited
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} Quick question IF China are so much more powerful than the US why do they need Tariffs. Why dont they bring their tariffs to the same level as the US tariffs?
I didn’t say they were more powerful ( your words) , I said 2nd global superpower enabled via previous US administrations policies . China like most countries play fast and loose with their currency and their tariffs.

All countries, do the same , the US has abused the dollar , it being the fiat currency for decades . Let’s not be naive or gullible here .


I’m not saying what the US is trying to address is wrong , it’s their methodology that’s wrong . This administration lacks business acumen and diplomacy and chooses a “ tough handed “ approach .

Yesterday, they got the response from the markets about that methodology.
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 11:35am
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Quoting Trader#D2D6
{quote} That’s actually a great point. Not in the way you think though. My favorite part is where you made it clear that you don’t understand you’re being mocked. Credit to the fool, he got it. It’s why he melted down in the following post, albeit an odd way to disprove the accused behaviors. Predictable nonetheless.
Being mocked!

If that’s the standard of mockery , it’s says a lot about the IQ of said person .
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 12:49pm
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Quoting Trader#569A
{quote} “I use an handle and you post as a guest!” Wow I never thought of it like that before. Of course you complained to the manager, the fool. Don’t cry because your echo chamber can be easily circumvented, why do you have almost 2,000 blocked accounts? Are you that sensitive of a man? And yeah I'm so sure people flock to forex factory for your culture wars. Funny you’d accidentally and indirectly admit that’s why you’re here. You certainly don’t post anything of relevance to markets.
Glad to be of assistance .

If you need anything else, just ask .

Regards .
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W0lfram
Apr 10, 2025 5:16pm
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Quoting CashBox
Wow, the chinese communist party workers are really laying it on thick today. Shows how scared they are when they have to market communism this hard. The ccp is losing power. Freedom and democracy are coming to china.
Haven't you received the memo update, dummy?
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 2:49am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Yes , it was a strategic move . Game playing the markets , the whole financial system . The administration folded, it’s that simple .
Yes, you are correct, it was a strategic move and caused the admin of over 80 countries to fold and they are now at the negotiation table.
Well said.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:27am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Oh please , don’t try that narrative . Many countries were making concessions well in advance of the tariffs and they were brushed aside . It was the US administration that folded due to the market response . Let’s leave it at that . I always try to be fair with my commentary .
Wow, you don't trade do you? If you did trade, you would know that the markets put in a double bottom and started reversing up on Monday during London session. Um, that was quite a while prior to the 90 day pause for negotiations to be done.
So, now we know you do not belong on FF because you are not a trader.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 3:30am
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Quoting Nick.
{quote} You guys are pure clowns if you're that fuckig stupid to think that this is about negotiations. There is nothing to negotiate!!! This guy is a fucking moron, a bully and a psycho. Everyone else is trying to act like a grownup and not destroy so many people's livelihoods. What the fuck is it so hard for you to understand the this guy is not right in the head. There are 1000 other ways to negotiate if that's what you want. You don't destroy the world's economy and then negotiate. This is a clown show, pure and simple.
And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is what it looks like when you win an argument...a total melt down of the other side because they have no facts, no truth, no nothing.
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CashBox
Apr 10, 2025 4:19am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Whatever, go for a walk and calm yourself down before you pull the rest of your hair out.
I've enjoyed our conversation. Thank you for the opportunity to destroy everything you and your ccp paid friends have been lying about on FF for months and months in just a couple of hours. It's been fun.
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Trader#569A
Apr 10, 2025 12:03pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Why do all the #traders use pseudonyms to attempt a rebuttal ? Get a pair - Log in , and say your piece . The influx of #Traders is comparable with the reciprocal tariffs .
“I use an handle and you post as a guest!” Wow I never thought of it like that before.

Of course you complained to the manager, the fool. Don’t cry because your echo chamber can be easily circumvented, why do you have almost 2,000 blocked accounts? Are you that sensitive of a man? And yeah I'm so sure people flock to forex factory for your culture wars. Funny you’d accidentally and indirectly admit that’s why you’re here. You certainly don’t post anything of relevance to markets.
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Jade Gate
Apr 9, 2025 5:47pm
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I'm looking at this. Red horizontal lines = gaps to be filled. Gaps will often however overfill, so looking at 61.8 fibs, all 3 charts to short. TA confirmation req'd.
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The Fool
Apr 9, 2025 8:58pm
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Where is the real Donald Trump? It's way past time he fired some people.
OutThere
Apr 10, 2025 3:20am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}Feel free to provide your own proof here. I'm not doing your work for you.
You can start with 1972 Munich Massacre
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 6:22am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote} What happened yesterday? I saw a very strong rise in US Stocks.
Thanks for stating the obvious !

What’s your point ?
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Vancarbon
Apr 10, 2025 7:17am
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Quoting Schweet
{quote}How did he fold if he raised the China Tariffs to 125%
Don’t you understand what I wrote ?
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Polimini
Apr 10, 2025 3:15am
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at this point i think it's obvious what they are doing, insider trading, flip flop on tariffs so their friends can ride the market. Trump and his friends will come out of this zillionaires
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Trader#9290
Apr 9, 2025 5:30pm
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Let's see how long the 90 day pause lasts. I give it 15 days.
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 1:56am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} His move was similar to an idiot that needed to put his hand on a stove element and burn it to the bone just to comprehend that it is hot.
I bet you sold when DJT said buy. Shame.
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 5:05am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} …..and therein lies the root of this issue . Well said, absolutely nailed it . The US enabled China to become the 2nd global superpower via its outsourcing . China quietly went about a transformation, from a poor backward nation to the greatest exporting nation the world has ever seen . The CCP has changed the lives of most impoverished Chinese to that of a level resembling some countries in the West . Whilst the US was too busy vying for geopolitical supremacy and dominance through military strength , the Chinese quietly went about their...
Quick question IF China are so much more powerful than the US why do they need Tariffs. Why dont they bring their tariffs to the same level as the US tariffs?
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 6:14am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} I didn’t say they were more powerful ( your words) , I said 2nd global superpower enabled via previous US administrations policies . China like most countries play fast and loose with their currency and their tariffs. All countries, do the same , the US has abused the dollar , it being the fiat currency for decades . Let’s not be naive or gullible here . I’m not saying what the US is trying to address is wrong , it’s their methodology that’s wrong . This administration lacks business acumen and diplomacy and...
What happened yesterday? I saw a very strong rise in US Stocks.
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 6:27am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Thanks for stating the obvious ! What’s your point ?
You said that Trumps methodology which you said is bad, moved the Stocks Up very strongly. You contradicting yourself.
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FourxTwoxs
Apr 10, 2025 8:45am
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So... Globalism is over, defeated by Trump's cunning. Manufacturing is on it's way to being reshored, providing jobs to former gov't workers. US will become a richer richest country in the world, and a bigger biggest economy in the world. China will give in to pressure from Americans still buying their much cheaper (even after tariffs) products.
Also coal-powered flying cars could be a thing, soon..
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Trader#5157
Apr 10, 2025 10:29am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Ok. He said he needed insane reciprocal tariffs for all kinds of fictional reasons. Then he did complete 180 on that. I won't ask you to explain that since you are too busy fantasizing about licking his asshole.
Meltdown alert! Of course that’s where your mind takes you, I’m sure Freud wouldn’t see any correlation lol. What’s it like to be an emotional man though, seriously. Interesting to think that if this were merely 15 years ago men like you would just be living out their lives. Instead you’re terminally online, racing to publicly meltdown after every single syllable that he utters. Yet, it’s my fantasy? What a sad existence your life is.
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Trader#6ABB
Apr 10, 2025 10:50am
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Quoting Jr123
{quote} How can a 5 year old be allowed to open a trading account. Did your mommy put it in her name.
That’s actually a great point, not in the way you think though. I like the part where it’s not even clear if you can tell you were being mocked. Credit to The Fool though, he got it. It’s why he melted down in the following post. Odd way to disprove the accused behaviors. Predictable nonetheless.
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Trader#6ABB
Apr 10, 2025 11:44am
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Quoting The Fool
Calling out a fatuous trumptard asslicker is hardly what anyone would deem a "meltdown". But I get it. You don't have anything relevant to say and your sole mission is "owning the libs" so go ahead and try to be entertaining.
Go on, project whatever ideals you need onto me for your emotional blather to feel reasonable. It’s the only way a man like you can feel purpose in life. Maybe you should use a few more playground insults to really drive home your concept that someone else is a “trumptard” which is ironically the perfect description of your behavior here day in and day out.
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Trader#6FB2
Apr 10, 2025 12:41pm
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Quoting The Fool
{quote} Dance, bitch.
I imagine all your posts with a lisp so that came off way sassier than you probably intended.
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Schweet
Apr 11, 2025 12:53am
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Quoting CashBox
Wow, the chinese communist party workers are really laying it on thick today. Shows how scared they are when they have to market communism this hard. The ccp is losing power. Freedom and democracy are coming to china.
100%
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Trader#48B8
Apr 9, 2025 4:44pm
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Quoting BillyIdol
All he is doing is cycles of market manipulations to enrich his friends. Me too, btw!
Me too, I'm so conflicted . On one hand I think trump is pond scum, but on the other this volatility is making me rich
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Trader#2D23
Apr 10, 2025 1:49am
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Quoting future911
Ima just shut up at this point and hope for the best, he’s playing chess, let’s see how it ends up
much more like snakes & ladders than chess, he did post "now is a great time to buy" a while before capitulating - he wasn't wrong about that
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josh72423
Apr 10, 2025 3:48am
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All these bozos hating on Trump because they can't handle some volatility what a bunch of losers.
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Trader#6DBB
Apr 10, 2025 6:46am
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Quoting CashBox
{quote}I'm guessing you do not have an economics background, so I'll try to help you here: If country A is buying $438 billion dollars worth of stuff from country B and country B is only buying $165 billion dollars worth of stuff from country A then who does simple math an 8 year old can do have the upper hand? Answer: The US. China will implode without the US buying $438 billion in product from them. The Chinese Communist Party will disappear if billions of China's people rise up and trample them because the CCP makes the mistake of starving their...
you are so loud and dumb..
in this game no one can be a pushover or a bully
usa can punish weak countries like iran or cuba.. but china ? LMAO
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Schweet
Apr 10, 2025 7:47am
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Quoting OutThere
MAGA is so dense that they put Osmium to shame.
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Trader#569A
Apr 10, 2025 10:09am
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Quoting The Fool
Trump probably winced at seeing the stock market drop consistently in relation to his dumbass tariff moves. But what really spooked him was the crazy moves in global credit Wednesday. This is why he has squelched the "reciprocal" tariff bs. Stocks will go down and up, but you can't break the bond market.
Yeah!!! And he PROBABLY called his boyfriend Pultler and asked him what he would do! And then he PROBALY got scared of China because he’s a big dum dum meany head!!! And then he PROBABLY hurried over to here and to Reddit to see what all the intelligent, totally sane, totally not suffering from low t posters had to say because he’s just a big dum dum poo poo man!
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Trader#E3A6
Apr 9, 2025 5:07pm
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this guy should be in prison lol
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Trader#3A9C
Apr 9, 2025 7:16pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
Lost the trust of markets and the global community. Way to go.
Today the markets said you're wrong.
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Trader#9050
Apr 9, 2025 10:22pm
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Every trader who lost money deserves melania over the weekend
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Trader#3A9C
Apr 10, 2025 4:23am
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It's always the same three to four people who have thousands of posts that ruin these boards. Is there anyway FF can block these loudmouths?
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Trader#D2D6
Apr 10, 2025 10:41am
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Quoting Jr123
{quote} How can a 5 year old be allowed to open a trading account. Did your mommy put it her name.
That’s actually a great point. Not in the way you think though. My favorite part is where you made it clear that you don’t understand you’re being mocked. Credit to the fool, he got it. It’s why he melted down in the following post, albeit an odd way to disprove the accused behaviors. Predictable nonetheless.
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