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  • #47,761
  • Apr 1, 2025 5:42pm Apr 1, 2025 5:42pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} Did you use any promo code to waive activation fees?
NOFEE30 - 105$ per 25k account
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  • #47,762
  • Apr 1, 2025 5:57pm Apr 1, 2025 5:57pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} NOFEE30 - 105$ per 25k account
Noted. I might try them as I was thrice denied by Apex for the last 3 payments. The first was my mistake that breached the 30% rule. But the last 2 I followed whatever required. Now I have 8k sitting inside Apex account.
I could not find the promo code for Bluenox, is the promotion still on.
  • #47,763
  • Apr 1, 2025 6:10pm Apr 1, 2025 6:10pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} Noted. I might try them as I was thrice denied by Apex for the last 3 payments. The first was my mistake that breached the 30% rule. But the last 2 I followed whatever required. Now I have 8k sitting inside Apex account. I could not find the promo code for Bluenox, is the promotion still on.
Nope wait for bulenox soon they will run 90% off on intra trailing …
not sure why apex denying your payout….. but i always got paid without any hassle
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,764
  • Apr 1, 2025 6:23pm Apr 1, 2025 6:23pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Nope wait for bulenox soon they will run 90% off on intra trailing … not sure why apex denying your payout….. but i always got paid without any hassle
Apex had been paying me, of which I have used the profit to open an account with MooMoo to trade live. But it denied me after I breached the 30% rule.
  • #47,765
  • Apr 1, 2025 8:20pm Apr 1, 2025 8:20pm
There is a guy called Jadecap on youtube…he is soon going to be eligible for a monster million dollar payout from apex … i am eagerly following../ never ever heard of firms paying this huge amounts not even ftmo
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,766
  • Apr 1, 2025 8:42pm Apr 1, 2025 8:42pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I never had issues with them. They are reliable atleast to me... i am just waiting 90% + 85$ activation coz i am going to buy 20 accounts....... Other than that these all these firms have automated system even you make a minor mistake system flag you right away.... I would suggest if you think you have broken a rule then give at ry for next payout cycle see what happens
yes thank you
looks like everything is automated of course.
I guess they did not even reviewed manually the thing otherwise they would have come to my same conclusion and approve my payout.
previous payout I traded the very same way.
one day went same as bad!
simply did not breach the 30% rule which for them looks really important, repeated so many times on the rules.

Need to ask you one more info please

Are you using a trade copier to trade on all the prop accounts or simply switch from on to another?
asking because I would like to use a copier but seems to me they can deny me payouts because of suspicious behavior…. I cannot imagine they asking me to proof something, after seeing how they denied me last time
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,767
  • Apr 1, 2025 8:51pm Apr 1, 2025 8:51pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} Apex had been paying me, of which I have used the profit to open an account with MooMoo to trade live. But it denied me after I breached the 30% rule.
Let me understand how apex is working.
i realized few things looking into web and social about these denials!

in one case a guy was denied for a simple reason:
payout period 1 proft made 3k, payoit 3k denied for breachin X rule.
payout period 2 profit made 2k, payout 5k denied.
since payout 1 was denied, payout 2 should have been 2k to be approved.
once approved payout 2, eventually payout 3 could also imcluded profits from payout 1.
hope I explained it right,…. This is not in their rules btw.

anyway, did they give you any reason for denials? I mean, that shitty IA email saying thenmain reason?
mine was “improper risk management”
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  • #47,768
  • Apr 1, 2025 8:54pm Apr 1, 2025 8:54pm
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} yes thank you looks like everything is automated of course. I guess they did not even reviewed manually the thing otherwise they would have come to my same conclusion and approve my payout. previous payout I traded the very same way. one day went same as bad! simply did not breach the 30% rule which for them looks really important, repeated so many times on the rules. Need to ask you one more info please Are you using a trade copier to trade on all the prop accounts or simply switch from on to another? asking because I would like...
I'll always advise never use copier. Copy within a firm only.... and try to use same computer or device with same/similar area location IP>...... You never know........

It hardly takes 30sec to open trades in all firms.... I have accounts in 6 different firms nd i simply just open them in separate tabs thats why i like projectx pretty fast. Then analyze on tradingview and simply add buy/sell limit orders with tp and sl....... Thats it....


I have never been denied of any payout based on the trading style.....

These are 3 trading rules.....

1. Always open 1 trade with tp and sl. Wait for it to wrap before opening a new one.
2. Try to aim atleaast 10 points on NQ and 1$ + move on gold. below it will be considered micro scalping by some firms.
3. Use same pc/device and manually open trades.

Thats it if anyone follows this none of the firm will deny payouts based on trading.... They can still come up with BS reason......
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  • #47,769
  • Apr 1, 2025 8:59pm Apr 1, 2025 8:59pm
Quoting montygoldy
After SOme calculation... I am purchasing 25kx5 takeprofittrader accounts...... Just realised we cant take out of threshold and the only difference between 50k n 25k account is 500$ worth of drawdown. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS TARGET IS 1:1 i.e 1500$ drawdown and 1500$ target. Without DLL it should be piece of cake. PLus faster to reach the threshold and Daily payouts..... {image}
Nice observation. Smart.
  • #47,770
  • Apr 1, 2025 9:24pm Apr 1, 2025 9:24pm
Quoting montygoldy
There is a guy called Jadecap on youtube…he is soon going to be eligible for a monster million dollar payout from apex … i am eagerly following../ never ever heard of firms paying this huge amounts not even ftmo
Patrick Wieland got a $600K Apex payout last year, but he is an affiliate so that probably makes him have a way lower probability of getting a denied payout.
I am done with all of my Apex accounts and not planning to get anymore due to the software glitches/excessive rules. Spent $1500 in January to get $2M of accounts and held on to them for three months but didn't get a single payout. Tired of thinking about their constitution worth of rules.
Now I am working with FundedFuturesNetwork. Currently doing two 150K challenges and one $50K challenge.
So far zero glitches using Quantower.
I am using TradingConnectivity software to copy trade from MT5 to Quantower and it works beautifully.
I will check out Jadecap.
  • #47,771
  • Apr 1, 2025 9:25pm Apr 1, 2025 9:25pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I'll always advise never use copier. Copy within a firm only.... and try to use same computer or device with same/similar area location IP>...... You never know........ It hardly takes 30sec to open trades in all firms.... I have accounts in 6 different firms nd i simply just open them in separate tabs thats why i like projectx pretty fast. Then analyze on tradingview and simply add buy/sell limit orders with tp and sl....... Thats it.... I have never been denied of any payout based on the trading style..... These are 3 trading rules........
ok will follow the advice.
Indeed i did a bit of research about copiers (came to replikanto) but also about firms’ rules. Tried to ask support about the use of copiers. Their answer is always the same: you can use it as long as you trade accounts you own. So I imagine the will first deny a payout, then eventually you will send their IA your reasonings…. No way.

I tried to use 2 platforms to execute positions but ended very bad!
will later this year try to trade 1 account, then another once reached a daily target.
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,772
  • Apr 1, 2025 9:54pm Apr 1, 2025 9:54pm
Considering the actual picture btw, I will soon more likely fund my own account instead of using only prop.
I would now have 12k withdrawable profits.
to withdraw them from apex, i need to reach 6th payout.
projection says at 6th payout i will have approx 40 to 50k total + payouts 15k
enough for a live futures account.

Atm, have to improve 2 things:
1. Less downsides.
2. Holding trades longer.

if accomplished this, my day results will explode straigth to 3/5 k
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  • #47,773
  • Apr 1, 2025 10:04pm Apr 1, 2025 10:04pm
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} Let me understand how apex is working. i realized few things looking into web and social about these denials! in one case a guy was denied for a simple reason: payout period 1 proft made 3k, payoit 3k denied for breachin X rule. payout period 2 profit made 2k, payout 5k denied. since payout 1 was denied, payout 2 should have been 2k to be approved. once approved payout 2, eventually payout 3 could also imcluded profits from payout 1. hope I explained it right,…. This is not in their rules btw. anyway, did they give you any reason for denials?...
The first Denied was my mistake of not closing all active orders and 1 of the limit order was filled and the profit cross the 30%.
The secound and third I followed the requirements but were denied also.
Yes, all the denied come with an email stating the same blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, I have enough profit from Apex to go live and move on to other props recommended here.
  • #47,774
  • Apr 2, 2025 7:29am Apr 2, 2025 7:29am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} Patrick Wieland got a $600K Apex payout last year, but he is an affiliate so that probably makes him have a way lower probability of getting a denied payout. I am done with all of my Apex accounts and not planning to get anymore due to the software glitches/excessive rules. Spent $1500 in January to get $2M of accounts and held on to them for three months but didn't get a single payout. Tired of thinking about their constitution worth of rules. Now I am working with FundedFuturesNetwork. Currently doing two 150K challenges and one $50K challenge....
You are sending spot forex trades from MT5 to futures trades in QT using which connection ?
  • #47,775
  • Apr 2, 2025 8:42am Apr 2, 2025 8:42am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} 15 point stop in MGC is big stop. Even if you are trading on 30m chart. On 15m chart its just wasting money. But waiting your 1st evaluation / combine results patiently. Don't postpone , just start
I don't trade Futures, only Forex, because that's against my principles. So I just observe.

Quoting Capablanca
{quote} And when a payout is requested the max DD amount is immediathly moved into the starting balance. {image}
Yes, rules that don’t favor traders. Static DD is still the best even though the average is only -6%, the TP is still far off at 10%.
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  • #47,776
  • Apr 2, 2025 8:58am Apr 2, 2025 8:58am
new funded account.

Did approximately in less than 30 minutes.

It is not " yolo " trading.

I availed full cntract sizing, 20 micros.

It is just accuracy. Shorted gold futures around 3170.

What i need is just 15 points drop.
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Intraday only.
  • #47,777
  • Apr 2, 2025 9:06am Apr 2, 2025 9:06am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I don't trade Futures, only Forex, because that's against my principles.
Its up to you but prop work in same way does not matter if you trade futures or CFDs.
They payout from evaluation and activation fees.
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #47,778
  • Apr 2, 2025 10:31am Apr 2, 2025 10:31am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} Its up to you but prop work in same way does not matter if you trade futures or CFDs. They payout from evaluation and activation fees.
mmm. I am not sure about how they get money.
Ok, evaluations and activations is certainly a good liquidity income,
But I am pretty sure they copy trades into prop accounts.
say you have NQ near a support and some 700 accounts are buying the level. Would you copy those trades knowing that those 700 traders are hardly wrong? And if they are wrong they will immediatly recover back the trades?
there it comes prop money, otherwise they would fail before even starting their business
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,779
  • Apr 2, 2025 10:53am Apr 2, 2025 10:53am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I don't trade Futures, only Forex, because that's against my principles. So I just observe. {quote} Yes, rules that don’t favor traders. Static DD is still the best even though the average is only -6%, the TP is still far off at 10%.
Me too.. for the time being!! Cheers to forex!!
  • #47,780
  • Apr 2, 2025 11:39am Apr 2, 2025 11:39am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} You are sending spot forex trades from MT5 to futures trades in QT using which connection ?
Hi Stoney.
Absolutely not. Forex and Futures charts are not close enough to play that game.
I am sending spot futures trades from AmpGlobal Futures MT5 Demo account to QT using TradingConnectivity software. It works perfectly.
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