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  • #47,661
  • Mar 28, 2025 3:18pm Mar 28, 2025 3:18pm
Quoting Amelia-A
{quote} It's obviously a very good question, but I don't know the answer. Topstep's been going strong for over 13 years now, I think? Do you think they're doing something right that most other firms are doing wrong?
yes topstep ok
I would like to know in these 13 years what is the average account survival?
1 month?
3 months?
they clearly survive because peoplempay them more than others in the belief they are better than the others.
Just saying my view, and could be proven wrong of course….
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,662
  • Mar 28, 2025 3:20pm Mar 28, 2025 3:20pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The firms with a fast path to live, which gets you off their books as a liabilty, will survive just fine. It is why they move you to live. Up until that point, in "SIM Funded", you are a liability as they are paying you from their own profits collected on fees. Moving to live is the equivalent of the forex props banning you. As there never is/was or will be an actual live account there, it's the ONLY way to get you off the books. Moving to live in futures, while not ideal, is still the better alternative. Apex, Bulenox and any other with...
well, when I read the tradeofy rules I thought
”i don t want a live account, at the 5th apyout will close everything put”
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,663
  • Mar 28, 2025 3:28pm Mar 28, 2025 3:28pm
It’s a busyness machine.
been forced to subscribe to tradezella and pay a month subscription to check what happened to get my payout denied.
This could have been solved with an email from evaluator showing me the same thing, but noooo…. They will not tell you.
you have to pay for something so the thing will keep being alive.
im almost 47 years old and i work since 27 in commerce and sales. Saw this pattern A LOT of times in my life and EVERY time ended the same way.

anyway, found what went wrong
a trade went down breachingthe 30% rule, followed by a losing DCA, into a losing streak, sending account 1k far from blowing line.
of course improper risk management…. Agreed.

anyway
thumbs up to me for all the other 12 days path
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  • #47,664
  • Mar 28, 2025 3:43pm Mar 28, 2025 3:43pm
Quoting fxpider
{quote} Did you check their consistency rules? they also have a profit target for payout!! {image}
Of course I did.

Explained up front, easy to follow, no probem whatesover
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #47,665
  • Mar 28, 2025 4:44pm Mar 28, 2025 4:44pm
I finally completed the objective for my first live account on MFFU and ended the week all green on all 3 accounts ! It took me 59 calendar days.

Account 1
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Account 2
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Account 3
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  • #47,666
  • Mar 28, 2025 5:19pm Mar 28, 2025 5:19pm
First day in the new funded acc. 50k.

The process is to make 1500 or more in 5 trading days to ask 1500 withdrawal after 14 calander days. 11 th April.

Then blow the account. Intentionally.
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  • #47,667
  • Mar 28, 2025 5:23pm Mar 28, 2025 5:23pm
These 2 x 50k funded accounts, i am done, 5 trading days.

On the 2 nd april i will request 2 x 1500.

Then blow the accounts intentionally.
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  • #47,668
  • Mar 28, 2025 5:34pm Mar 28, 2025 5:34pm
Quoting LetsGoPitt
I finally completed the objective for my first live account on MFFU and ended the week all green on all 3 accounts ! It took me 59 calendar days. Account 1 {image} {image} Account 2{image} Account 3{image}
good job… i am starting my 3x50k starter plans with conservative approach on april 1 to get the live account….
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,669
  • Mar 28, 2025 8:39pm Mar 28, 2025 8:39pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} good job… i am starting my 3x50k starter plans with conservative approach on april 1 to get the live account….
I do not see any advantadge to MFFU Eval to live vs. the starter plan? Am I missing something?
  • #47,670
  • Mar 28, 2025 9:54pm Mar 28, 2025 9:54pm
Quoting Urahara-san
{quote} I am considering a Futures Elite account. I am curious on their news policy, is it all tier 1 news that's not tradeable or the 'news to watch for'?
During eval phase, for starter and PRO accounts, all news trading including tier 1 allowed.

During funded stage not allowed.

For custom accounts, one can choose to opt news trading for a fee.

If you do not opt for news trading, all news trading is not allowed
Intraday only.
  • #47,671
  • Mar 28, 2025 9:54pm Mar 28, 2025 9:54pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I do not see any advantadge to MFFU Eval to live vs. the starter plan? Am I missing something?
Daily payouts.... I am being stressed and impatient with these BS delays when it comes to payouts........ Now i'll be aiming to go live on max firms... so no more YOLO'ing conservative approach from now on...... Target - 300-400$ a day profit or loss which ever hits first then done for the day on 50k accounts.

Only thing i am liiking about live is ANY DAY ANY TIME PAYOUT..........
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,672
  • Mar 29, 2025 2:03am Mar 29, 2025 2:03am
Quoting _BBKing_
...been forced to subscribe to tradezella and pay a month subscription...
Why ? Usually normal trading platforms have trading statistics and give same info. Actually you can go much deeper.
What trading platform you use ?
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #47,673
  • Mar 29, 2025 6:13am Mar 29, 2025 6:13am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} It says FUNDED consistency rule on evals there is no consistency 1 day pass
I get it now.
Bullish on Heaven and Ruble
  • #47,674
  • Mar 29, 2025 6:16am Mar 29, 2025 6:16am
Quoting navk
{quote} During eval phase, for starter and PRO accounts, all news trading including tier 1 allowed. During funded stage not allowed. For custom accounts, one can choose to opt news trading for a fee. If you do not opt for news trading, all news trading is not allowed
Thank you, that helps.
Bullish on Heaven and Ruble
  • #47,675
  • Mar 29, 2025 6:18am Mar 29, 2025 6:18am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} It says FUNDED consistency rule on evals there is no consistency 1 day pass
Sorry man. I had a brain fart, I get what you mean now.
Bullish on Heaven and Ruble
  • #47,676
  • Mar 29, 2025 6:37am Mar 29, 2025 6:37am
Quoting navk
First day in the new funded acc. 50k. The process is to make 1500 or more in 5 trading days to ask 1500 withdrawal after 14 calander days. 11 th April. Then blow the account. Intentionally. {image}
Why blow accounts intentionally?
Bullish on Heaven and Ruble
  • #47,677
  • Mar 29, 2025 7:07am Mar 29, 2025 7:07am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} Why ? Usually normal trading platforms have trading statistics and give same info. Actually you can go much deeper. What trading platform you use ?
Using Tradovate which has good stats but NOT what i need.

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it shows me largest loss as 800$ and it is correct.
but the position was DCA and the whole position hit a total -1770$ which is far away from the 30% allowed. And furthermore I did not scale it down. It was a full loss splashing my stop order and price gone through a lot lower.
or maybe I was even adding on it.
As I remember, price was very closed or into a support, that was kind of a sweep. Imdeed few later reloaded the buy position and got straight back approx 2k
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  • #47,678
  • Mar 29, 2025 9:06am Mar 29, 2025 9:06am
Quoting Urahara-san
{quote} Why blow accounts intentionally?
I decide this based on firms.
My plan is to take money here regularly to purchase bigger evals.
For me, I seen passing 50k account within 3 to 4 days is easier
Topstep and tradeify. I consider for growth
Intraday only.
  • #47,679
  • Mar 29, 2025 10:19am Mar 29, 2025 10:19am
Quoting navk
{quote} I decide this based on firms. My plan is to take money here regularly to purchase bigger evals. For me, I seen passing 50k account within 3 to 4 days is easier Topstep and tradeify. I consider for growth
Because you can only have 5. you blow your 50k to buy say 150k?
Bullish on Heaven and Ruble
  • #47,680
  • Mar 29, 2025 12:19pm Mar 29, 2025 12:19pm
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} Using Tradovate which has good stats but NOT what i need. {image} it shows me largest loss as 800$ and it is correct. but the position was DCA and the whole position hit a total -1770$ which is far away from the 30% allowed. And furthermore I did not scale it down. It was a full loss splashing my stop order and price gone through a lot lower. or maybe I was even adding on it. As I remember, price was very closed or into a support, that was kind of a sweep. Imdeed few later reloaded the buy position and got straight back approx 2k
Actually they have quite limited trade statistics.
Max open loss is what you want to see.

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