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  • #47,341
  • Mar 12, 2025 5:04pm Mar 12, 2025 5:04pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Tradeify seems to be the best so far.
Thank you very much man.
It's not over, until I win.
  • #47,342
  • Edited 6:48pm Mar 12, 2025 6:18pm | Edited 6:48pm
there are two ways : ( for futures account )

Pass a 50k account within 3 to 4 days.

Make 700 to 800 per day. Meet 3k profits to pass.

Always choose EOD plan, never choose intraday plan.

For a 50k account, MLL needs to be minimum 2k ( for 50k account )

Most of firms pay 1.5k as first payout.

There are two ways you can handle funded accounts.

1) Earn regularly 250 to 300 per day. Accumulate 3.5k profit. ( in 15 days )

With draw 1.5k and you will have a balance of 52 k with safety net of 2k in the account. DLL is not advisable to me, this defeats the purpose of MLL 2K

First withdrawal shall be after 15 trading days only. ( or until you earn 3.5k profit )

2) Earn regularly 250 to 300 per day.

Accumulate profits upto 1.5k. + 100 dollars. In 7 trading days.

Withdraw 1.5k .

You will have 50.1 k in account.

Blow the account. REpeat eval again.

Rinse and repeat process.
Intraday only.
  • #47,343
  • Mar 12, 2025 8:31pm Mar 12, 2025 8:31pm
Quoting CableJ
latest update... {image}{image}Last year futures complaints were minimal, but so far this year, futures complaints are starting to look similar to the CFD side.
People on here don't seem to like FundedNext, but they have been top on your list for a while.

Surprisingly, the5ers isn't more popular. Their spreads are very good and haven't experienced any slippages so far.
  • #47,344
  • Mar 12, 2025 11:05pm Mar 12, 2025 11:05pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} When did they create the accounts and also provide the 130 credit? I see that my dashboard hasn't been updated yet for yesterday's trades.Not sure how long they'll take to provide me the Pro accounts. Edit: Just an update. Issue was resolved a 3-4 hours after market open. These guys are slower than the other futures firms around.
They have a non existent process after passing.... Waited close to 2 business days to get the funded accounts and need to contact support for each of them to get them passed even though i copy traded..... Then need to contact support for contract then for credits... The thing is moment the support guys available the issue is resolved in next 30 mins.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,345
  • Edited Mar 13, 2025 3:40am Mar 12, 2025 11:12pm | Edited Mar 13, 2025 3:40am
Quoting navk
there are two ways : ( for futures account ) Pass a 50k account within 3 to 4 days. Make 700 to 800 per day. Meet 3k profits to pass. Always choose EOD plan, never choose intraday plan. For a 50k account, MLL needs to be minimum 2k ( for 50k account ) Most of firms pay 1.5k as first payout. There are two ways you can handle funded accounts. 1) Earn regularly 250 to 300 per day. Accumulate 3.5k profit. ( in 15 days ) With draw 1.5k and you will have a balance of 52 k with safety net of 2k in the account. DLL is not advisable to me, this defeats the...
Most of us struggle with 1 or 2 scenario is thinking of making those numbers without any losses..... So in real world how it is exactly make 200-300 for 2-3 days then big red day all the profits gone...Next few days try to recover with 200-300 then again red day we go more farther away from payout and eventually lose account....

I believe the best approach is squeeze more on good days to withstand the losing days... so aim for 1k for first 2 days then can limit 200-300 to profit or loss until hit 3k and this way payout is possible in 5-7 days timeframe..
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,346
  • Mar 12, 2025 11:39pm Mar 12, 2025 11:39pm
Did reasonably well, but not without struggle .

Futures elite eval 1 - 50k acc
Futures elite eval 2 - 50k
Futures elite funded 1 - 50k
Futures elite funded 2 - 50k

Topstep funded - 150k

Bluguardian 50k eval - Passed.

No funded accout received yet.
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Intraday only.
  • #47,347
  • Mar 12, 2025 11:57pm Mar 12, 2025 11:57pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Most of us struggle with 1 or 2 scenario is thinking of making those numbers without any losses..... So in real world how it is exactly make 200-300 for 2-3 days then big red day all the profits gone...Next few days try to recover with 200-300 then again red day we go more farther away from payout and eventually lose account.... I believe the best approach is squeeze more on good days to withstand the losing days... so aim for 1k for first 2 days then can limit 200-300 to profit or lost until hit 3k and this way payout is possible in 5-7...
For longivity, a safenet equivalent to MLL is needed. Infact, I would advise not towithdraw for 30 days.

Earn for 30 days and withdraw at the end of month.

One need not worry about blowing account due to MLL breach.

DLL plan, i would not advise at all.
Intraday only.
  • #47,348
  • Mar 13, 2025 12:34am Mar 13, 2025 12:34am
Seems that E8 is moving some trades (CFD and futures) to live
https://x.com/DylanElchami/status/1899891522692407598
  • #47,349
  • Mar 13, 2025 6:05am Mar 13, 2025 6:05am
Quoting navk
Did reasonably well, but not without struggle . Futures elite eval 1 - 50k acc Futures elite eval 2 - 50k Futures elite funded 1 - 50k Futures elite funded 2 - 50k Topstep funded - 150k Bluguardian 50k eval - Passed. No funded accout received yet. {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
I just passed 2x 50k futures elite evaluation.

One day pass.

Intraday only.
  • #47,350
  • Mar 13, 2025 6:07am Mar 13, 2025 6:07am
Topstep funded 150k for today.

All done for today.
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Intraday only.
  • #47,351
  • Mar 13, 2025 6:31am Mar 13, 2025 6:31am
Quoting Capablanca
Seems that E8 is moving some trades (CFD and futures) to live https://x.com/DylanElchami/status/1899891522692407598
I really dont understand why prop firms are making so noise about live trading. Are they dumb or think people are dumb?
How about copying trades without moving them to live? For example if trader is doing good why can't they just use good trade copier to copy trades?
Why to go through all paper work and things when you can use trade copier.
I think they just want excuse to get rid of good traders (if they blow live account) thats then only reason I can think of moving traders to live.
  • #47,352
  • Mar 13, 2025 8:29am Mar 13, 2025 8:29am
Hidden Rules, ways to deny payouts!!
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  • #47,353
  • Mar 13, 2025 8:40am Mar 13, 2025 8:40am
Quoting genuine007
Hidden Rules, ways to deny payouts!! {image}
this is something similar to FTMO hidden rules
Intraday only.
  • #47,354
  • Mar 13, 2025 8:46am Mar 13, 2025 8:46am
Quoting navk
{quote} this is something similar to FTMO hidden rules
This is insane. First "Daily Drawdown". Then "Another rule in Daily Drawdown".
  • #47,355
  • Mar 13, 2025 8:54am Mar 13, 2025 8:54am
Quoting navk
{quote} this is something similar to FTMO hidden rules
What hidden rules do FTMO have? Genuine question. I've heard they limit traders to 1% risk etc depending how they pass their evaluations.
  • #47,356
  • Mar 13, 2025 9:24am Mar 13, 2025 9:24am
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}What hidden rules do FTMO have? Genuine question. I've heard they limit traders to 1% risk etc depending how they pass their evaluations.
they have something like, you can not loose more than 1 % in a trade. It is not written but hidden rule
Intraday only.
  • #47,357
  • Mar 13, 2025 1:44pm Mar 13, 2025 1:44pm
Quoting genuine007
Hidden Rules, ways to deny payouts!! {image}
Sigh....that is annoying. Im STILL waiting for my Funded account from Funded Elite (been waiting a week for something they claim will be 72hrs max) and am ready for them to come up with some spurious reason to fail my review.

These hidden rules are ridiculous
  • #47,358
  • Mar 13, 2025 1:46pm Mar 13, 2025 1:46pm
Quoting navk
{quote} they have something like, you can not loose more than 1 % in a trade. It is not written but hidden rule
Is this new? Ive been with them several years now and never ever had this, nor ever been denied or even questioned for a payout.

Seemingly the only trustworthy CFD prop firms are FTMO, 5ers, Funded Next and perhaps Blue Guardian. The rest......
  • #47,359
  • Mar 13, 2025 4:58pm Mar 13, 2025 4:58pm
Quoting navk
{quote} they have something like, you can not loose more than 1 % in a trade. It is not written but hidden rule
Is this confirmed? I was just about to pay for a challenge
  • #47,360
  • Mar 13, 2025 5:19pm Mar 13, 2025 5:19pm
Quoting Sangui
{quote} Is this confirmed? I was just about to pay for a challenge
Ok. Sadly this is true(for 1.5%):

System (21:17:37): Hello, welcome to FTMO. How can I help you?
Tommy Hoang (21:21:38): Hello X
X (21:21:49): Hello. I was about to pay for a challenge but decided to take a look at news first and came up to a post in forex factory. Can you confirm if this is true or not please? And pleae explain it if it is
Tommy Hoang (21:22:24): Since the market conditions of different symbols can change quite rapidly and symbol volatility can significantly oscillate in time, we do not specify any hard limits for the exposures or lot sizes. As stipulated on our website, we are looking for serious traders with appropriate risk management strategies and ideally, we do not wish to interfere with your trading strategy any more than necessary.

In short, you should trade any account provided to you by FTMO as you would your own live account of the same size, with a clear trading plan and account longevity in mind.
Indeed, while we are unable to provide specific recommendations regarding limits, values, or volumes, for every possible situation and instrument it is important to remember that success in trading is often achieved through diversified and reduced risk, via multiple and unique trades on various market occasions.

While different asset classes and specific symbols can vary in their inherent risk, as a general rule of thumb, we can recommend using up to 20% of the account margin for one trade idea and a risk per trade idea up to 1.5%. These are just very general guidelines for good risk management and in our internal assessment of the accounts, we consider a number of factors in order to make the conclusion. For example, a higher risk per trade idea on small swing positions can be perfectly fine.

Our risk management team is continuously monitoring account exposures and contacts traders who are overexposing their accounts on an individual basis. I need to emphasize that we do not encourage reckless trading styles that resemble gambling rather than consistent trading styles. You should have a clearly defined strategy and trading plan that you follow, rather than opening a large trade and hoping for the best.

We also recommend the following blog articles:
- https://ftmo.com/en/gambling-is-not-...-to-make-money
- https://ftmo.com/en/how-much-should-...k-on-one-trade
X (21:25:52): Ok, but that are suggestions. Can you confirm please if you lose the account if your risk more than 1.5% in a trade
Tommy Hoang (21:25:54): Our risk management team is continuously monitoring account exposures and contacts traders who are overexposing their accounts on an individual basis.
Tommy Hoang (21:26:07): So if your trading is not in line with our guidelines, our team will reach out to you directly via email.
X (21:26:38): So you are confirming that is true..ok thank you
Tommy Hoang (21:26:53): Was there anything else i can help you with?
X (21:27:21): No, that's is anough for me to decide not to take another challenge. Thanks
Tommy Hoang (21:27:28): Have a great day
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