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  • #47,181
  • Mar 4, 2025 11:25am Mar 4, 2025 11:25am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I dont have a code but if you google there is 90% discount going on .... 16$ for 50k intra trailing
I like your review feedback on prop firms, but I don't understand why you choose prop firms that fund with virtual capital. Seems like their interests are not aligned with their traders. have you ever tried fuze traders?
  • #47,182
  • Mar 4, 2025 2:22pm Mar 4, 2025 2:22pm
Quoting rnett1971
have you ever tried fuze traders?
-You are essentially trading your own money, no?
  • #47,183
  • Mar 4, 2025 2:25pm Mar 4, 2025 2:25pm
Quoting rnett1971
{quote} I like your review feedback on prop firms, but I don't understand why you choose prop firms that fund with virtual capital. Seems like their interests are not aligned with their traders. have you ever tried fuze traders?
Very subtle ad...

$10,000 account - 4% DD ($400), 8% (2R) profit target which costs $516.

Easy to fund the handful of people who make 2R with max $400 of DD.

The model works only by mass failure just like 'virtual capital'.
  • #47,184
  • Mar 4, 2025 3:37pm Mar 4, 2025 3:37pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}Very subtle ad... $10,000 account - 4% DD ($400), 8% (2R) profit target which costs $516. Easy to fund the handful of people who make 2R with max $400 of DD. The model works only by mass failure just like 'virtual capital'.
Not to mention, you are paying $512 for a $400 account, you can get a $512 personal account for $512!!!!!
  • #47,185
  • Edited 5:15pm Mar 4, 2025 3:54pm | Edited 5:15pm
Alright gents papa got paid from aqua as well…

asked on friday coz dashboard payout section not working

received rise invite today

paid just now


but they removed some profits as i accidently traded fomc… since moving to futures i care less about the news but i’ll be getting free accounts. Now available drawdown is 1100$ need to be more cautious now
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  • #47,186
  • Mar 4, 2025 4:17pm Mar 4, 2025 4:17pm
Quoting montygoldy
Alright gents papa got paid from aqua as well… asked on friday coz dashboard payout secrion not working received rise invite today paid just now but they removed some profits as i accidently traded fomc… since moving to futures i care less about the news but i’ll be getting free accounts. Now available drawdown is 1100$ need to be more cautious now {image} {image}
Aqua and Blueguardians are same and similar in terms of rules.

Are they same owners ?
Intraday only.
  • #47,187
  • Mar 4, 2025 5:05pm Mar 4, 2025 5:05pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Aqua and Blueguardians are same and similar in terms of rules. Are they same owners ?
aqua owner is kyle from myflashfunding
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  • #47,188
  • Mar 4, 2025 6:17pm Mar 4, 2025 6:17pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} the stats looks good. i did not look at the strategy if it has value, but with fast look on the numbers it looks stable (of course i know 1 year is very short time, but 800 trades look a good middle size value to count already (value of course depends on order placement style , this i did not check in detail)).
Don't be fooled by those stats. These gains are after your trades have gone tru risk engine mill. You could be up 60k in your underlying account but your Darwinex will show some 5-10%.
I don't know why these guys keep fooling everyone by saying if you earn only 3% a month bla bla bla bs.These are RISK ADJUSTED RETURNS and probably look like nothing that's happening in your account.
Buyer beware.
  • #47,189
  • Edited 8:35pm Mar 4, 2025 8:17pm | Edited 8:35pm
One more 50k account passed with futures elite. Funded acc given within minutes after meeting target.

Now, I have 5 x 50k. Out of which 2x50k , after having reached 5 days , i stopped trading. 5th and 6 th i will submit payout req on 2x 50k acc.

Topstep, i did 3 rd day. Done all. Attached.

Met daily targets. Now nothing more to do. For today.

In the NY session, however, I will trade new funded acc.
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  • #47,190
  • Edited Mar 5, 2025 12:04am Mar 4, 2025 9:53pm | Edited Mar 5, 2025 12:04am
... MORE FUNDED ACCOUNT>>>>>>>>>>>>


1. PASSED TOPSTEP - 50kx5.... - DAY 2 recorded tomorrow i'll cross target left it here coz of consistency.....
2. PASSED TAKEPROFITTRADER - 50kx5 - DAY 2 recorded so need to trade 3 more days for actually pass them....

TOTAL FUNDED ACCOUNTS

1. Aqua- 50x3
2. BlueGuardian - 50kx3
3. FutureElite - 50kx5
4. MFFU- 50kx3
5. Tradeify - 50kx5

THinking of purchasing bulenox as their offer is cheaper only hesitant coz of their payout policy required buffer.....

Those adjustments i mentioned before have improved my performance.... Never had these many funded accounts before with minimal investment i.e Passed in first try,,,,,,

ALSO RECOMMENDATIONS TO FIRMS ALWAYS WELCOMED

BTW i wont be sharing daily PnL or trades.. JUST THE UPDATE ON PAYOUTS, ISSUES OR PASSED ACCOUNTS.
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  • #47,191
  • Mar 4, 2025 10:27pm Mar 4, 2025 10:27pm
Quoting montygoldy
... MORE FUNDED ACCOUNT>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. PASSED TOPSTEP - 50kx5.... - DAY 2 recorded tomorrow i'll cross target left it here coz of consistency..... 2. PASSED TAKEPROFITTRADER - 50kx5 - DAY 2 recorded so need to trade 3 more days for actually pass them.... TOTAL FUNDED ACCOUNTS 1. Aqua- 50x3 2. BlueGuardian - 50kx3 3. FutureElite - 50kx5 4. MFFU- 50kx3 5. Tradeify - 50kx5 THinking of purchasing bulenox as their offer is cheaper only hesitant coz of their payout policy required buffer..... Those adjustments...
hey Monty,

You are doing toooo much.

Congrats.

Back in form as usual.
Intraday only.
  • #47,192
  • Mar 4, 2025 11:53pm Mar 4, 2025 11:53pm
Quoting montygoldy
... MORE FUNDED ACCOUNT>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. PASSED TOPSTEP - 50kx5.... - DAY 2 recorded tomorrow i'll cross target left it here coz of consistency..... 2. PASSED TAKEPROFITTRADER - 50kx5 - DAY 2 recorded so need to trade 3 more days for actually pass them.... TOTAL FUNDED ACCOUNTS 1. Aqua- 50x3 2. BlueGuardian - 50kx3 3. FutureElite - 50kx5 4. MFFU- 50kx3 5. Tradeify - 50kx5 THinking of purchasing bulenox as their offer is cheaper only hesitant coz of their payout policy required buffer..... Those adjustments...
Hey Monty, very glad to see you back and doing well. I'm inspired.

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just to shall my little start. bought smallest tradiefy STF acc during Black Friday. I have struggled for 2 months looking to cross the $1.5k line, still a strong 'resistance'.
  • #47,193
  • Mar 5, 2025 12:00am Mar 5, 2025 12:00am
Quoting koken
{quote} Hey Monty, very glad to see you back and doing well. I'm inspired. {image} just to shall my little start. bought smallest tradiefy STF acc during Black Friday. I have struggled for 2 months looking to cross the $1.5k line, still a strong 'resistance'.
Learn from mistakes and take actions to either fix or bypass them.........
I have been the same boat last year alot of passed challenges but lose them before getting a payout...... Too much wasted effort and money.....

THis time i am following to 2 rules to fix the issue (still not 100% following them but trying my best to do 70% of the cases)

1. DOnt YOLO for 1-2 to trades to pass them instead first build some room and then yolo on same day bigger drawdown to play with.
2. For payout - TRy to aim for 1k a day for first 2 days then slow n steady to get to 3100 to get the max payout for 50k account. Coz not everyday is a green day and most of the times when we aim small then after couple of green days there is a big red then same try to recover the big red more red. Which pushes the payout further and eventually out of the reach. So better to squeeze maximum profits from the good days and then try to reduce damage on bad days.
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  • #47,194
  • Edited 12:49am Mar 5, 2025 12:13am | Edited 12:49am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Don't be fooled by those stats. These gains are after your trades have gone tru risk engine mill. You could be up 60k in your underlying account but your Darwinex will show some 5-10%. I don't know why these guys keep fooling everyone by saying if you earn only 3% a month bla bla bla bs.These are RISK ADJUSTED RETURNS and probably look like nothing that's happening in your account. Buyer beware.
Nobody is trying to fool anyone you're just too stupid to understand what's being said.

What happens to with the risk engine is irrelevant. Bad traders just need an excuse for their trading impotence. If you can earn 3% after the "black box risk engine does its voodoo" then you'll be rolling in cash.

No one is saying earn 3% on your actual account and then suddenly the website only says 1%

You get dumber each day. Best not to clog up the prop thread with your DZero stupidity

Here's an example form my situation. It does requires some 3rd grade math

My risk is at 0.53

I trade 2 lots British pound and win 50 pips. My Meta4 account increases $1000.

THEN, I use 3rd grade math to account for the risk engine $1000 x 0.53 = $530

My Darwin quote is 113. (113K)

NOW, I do some more 3rd garde math: $530/113,000 = .47

So my profit percentage increase on my track record will go up about .47%. It may be slightly less depending on how long I held the trade and how much volatility took place while the trade was open but it's going to be a VERY small amount. Maybe .46% or .45%

It's not suddenly going to be .1% because the risk engine performed some type of black magic trick on my trade. Not to mention you can see in REAL time on the website EXACTLY what percentage you are up or down 24/7

NOW we are all done with 3rd grade math class.

My apologies to the thread. I assumed Outthere would keep his stupidity and victimhood in the Darwinex thread.

PS. Maybe I should start a TV game show called "are you dumber than a 3rd grader" and have Outthere as my first contestant.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #47,195
  • Mar 5, 2025 6:28am Mar 5, 2025 6:28am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Don't be fooled by those stats. These gains are after your trades have gone tru risk engine mill. You could be up 60k in your underlying account but your Darwinex will show some 5-10%. I don't know why these guys keep fooling everyone by saying if you earn only 3% a month bla bla bla bs.These are RISK ADJUSTED RETURNS and probably look like nothing that's happening in your account. Buyer beware.
You are correct. My stats are 1.5 times BETTER than what happens in my account. It was the same on my first Darwinex account. Had I not had the degen gambler in me come out in December, I'd be GOLD and managing significant AUM.
So, in reality, if you truly know how to control risk, you can make 3% in your account and be paid on 4.5% or better.
  • #47,196
  • Mar 5, 2025 6:39am Mar 5, 2025 6:39am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Nobody is trying to fool anyone you're just too stupid to understand what's being said. What happens to with the risk engine is irrelevant. Bad traders just need an excuse for their trading impotence. If you can earn 3% after the "black box risk engine does its voodoo" then you'll be rolling in cash. No one is saying earn 3% on your actual account and then suddenly the website only says 1% You get dumber each day. Best not to clog up the prop thread with your DZero stupidity Here's an example form my situation. It does requires some 3rd...
I have the Darwinex quote up at all times. As you know, the % you are up or down is displayed in real time right below your real time quote. Just posting it for those that somehow don't see the the big box in the upper right hand corner that is titled "Current Quote"
  • #47,197
  • Mar 5, 2025 6:54am Mar 5, 2025 6:54am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} You are correct. My stats are 1.5 times BETTER than what happens in my account. It was the same on my first Darwinex account. Had I not had the degen gambler in me come out in December, I'd be GOLD and managing significant AUM. So, in reality, if you truly know how to control risk, you can make 3% in your account and be paid on 4.5% or better.
In reality I know how to truly manage risk in my account instead of Darwinex's stupid black box formula.
Also your friend in tight spandex was the one who told me he had made 57K while his account was 10% on Darwinex. So must be a true statement.

BTW, another way of saying 1.5 times is 150%. Wow, so Darwinex profit was 50% more than you earned in your underlying? Amazing.
  • #47,198
  • Mar 5, 2025 7:09am Mar 5, 2025 7:09am
Quoting montygoldy
... MORE FUNDED ACCOUNT>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. PASSED TOPSTEP - 50kx5.... - DAY 2 recorded tomorrow i'll cross target left it here coz of consistency..... 2. PASSED TAKEPROFITTRADER - 50kx5 - DAY 2 recorded so need to trade 3 more days for actually pass them.... TOTAL FUNDED ACCOUNTS 1. Aqua- 50x3 2. BlueGuardian - 50kx3 3. FutureElite - 50kx5 4. MFFU- 50kx3 5. Tradeify - 50kx5 THinking of purchasing bulenox as their offer is cheaper only hesitant coz of their payout policy required buffer..... Those adjustments...
Hey Monty, what kind of buffer you do leave in your funded accounts after you withdraw your 1.5k?
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #47,199
  • Mar 5, 2025 7:13am Mar 5, 2025 7:13am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} In reality I know how to truly manage risk in my account instead of Darwinex's stupid black box formula. Also your friend in tight spandex was the one who told me he had made 57K while his account was 10% on Darwinex. So must be a true statement. BTW, another way of saying 1.5 times is 150%. Wow, so Darwinex profit was 50% more than you earned in your underlying? Amazing.
But I'm paid on the 1.5. That's the only number that matters.
Expo has his risk engine at 0.53, the complete opposite of mine. So he understands he must make close to double in his underlying.
Performance Fee= allocation * gain in your account * risk engine.
Persoanlly, I prefer having to make smaller in my underlying and let them multiply it.
One day you're happy with darwinex, the next day you're not. Not quite sure what the issues you are having are.
  • #47,200
  • Mar 5, 2025 7:29am Mar 5, 2025 7:29am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} But I'm paid on the 1.5. That's the only number that matters. Expo has his risk engine at 0.53, the complete opposite of mine. So he understands he must make close to double in his underlying. Performance Fee= allocation * gain in your account * risk engine. Persoanlly, I prefer having to make smaller in my underlying and let them multiply it. One day you're happy with darwinex, the next day you're not. Not quite sure what the issues you are having are.
No, I'm not happy with Darwinex. I just tolerate it.
I think it is not right for all traders trading everything to have their risk measured by s&p. I understand that its regulated and has a central exchange. You can use S&P but it has to be weighted by the market cap of the instruments you are trading. For example, how big if FX's market cap compared to S&P? FX is huge and international compared to the local S&P. Let's say 10x bigger. Then same risk multiplied by 10 for FX. The only reason Darwinex uses S&P is for convenience of not having to categorize instruments according to their market. It works for them but sucks for those traders who have to alter their system to fit into one measure of risk.
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