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  • #46,621
  • Feb 3, 2025 1:16pm Feb 3, 2025 1:16pm
Quoting Takisd
The oanda purchase is big but if you read between the lines they are not looking to make ftmo oanda. It appears they will continue oanda on its existing course. Perhaps use ftmo leads to boost a dwindling oanda.
And the other way around probably. I wonder how Oanda prop rules changed...must look into that once again because at first sight they were clear no...do you have them in your portfolio?
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  • #46,622
  • Feb 3, 2025 1:29pm Feb 3, 2025 1:29pm
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} And the other way around probably. I wonder how Oanda prop rules changed...must look into that once again because at first sight they were clear no...do you have them in your portfolio?
They might want to get back to US markets as their significant source of income was US markets and now they are not allowed.
  • #46,623
  • Feb 3, 2025 1:35pm Feb 3, 2025 1:35pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} They might want to get back to US markets as their significant source of income was US markets and now they are not allowed.
I've read T&C. Not allowed in Slovenia.
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  • #46,624
  • Feb 3, 2025 1:42pm Feb 3, 2025 1:42pm
Quoting Takisd
The oanda purchase is big but if you read between the lines they are not looking to make ftmo oanda. It appears they will continue oanda on its existing course. Perhaps use ftmo leads to boost a dwindling oanda.
Yes, read that as well. They will continue operating BOTH as separate entities.
  • #46,625
  • Feb 3, 2025 2:32pm Feb 3, 2025 2:32pm
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} And the other way around probably. I wonder how Oanda prop rules changed...must look into that once again because at first sight they were clear no...do you have them in your portfolio?
Broker to prop and prop to broker doesn't translate it seems. Many companies are studying it now but the audiences are not the same.
  • #46,626
  • Feb 3, 2025 3:02pm Feb 3, 2025 3:02pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Broker to prop and prop to broker doesn't translate it seems. Many companies are studying it now but the audiences are not the same.
So true, there is a very small audience (which I am a part of), which wishes to trade normal, low risk, not YOLO, earn 2-2.5% per month and obtain significant capital.
It seems theses folks just trade personal accounts, but even at 100K or 200K personal account, you earn 2,000-4,000K per month....not nearly enough for the skill and time involved.
The other end is the degen gamblers that wish to be rich overnight. Overrisking and trying to flip accounts (which was required in 2020-2022 on the prop challenges) in 30 days.
It really is shocking there is not a larger audience for models such as Darwinex.
  • #46,627
  • Feb 3, 2025 3:52pm Feb 3, 2025 3:52pm
Tariffs on Canada delayed until March 1st.
Drama ended.
Lol
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  • #46,628
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:01pm Feb 3, 2025 4:01pm
Quoting navk
Tariffs on Canada delayed until March 1st. Drama ended. Lol
You never know when Canadian Joker pull ups his smarty pants and start imposing reverse tariffs as retaliation measure which will make common man more suffer.
  • #46,629
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:02pm Feb 3, 2025 4:02pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, IMO, you can copy 20 accounts in futures accross 4-5 reliable firms.....use most if not all you make to fund a personal account. For forex and/or futures, have a Darwinex or Darwinexzero as well, as it doesn't take any additional effort. Everyone must remember, you are not going to CONSISTENTLY make more than 2-2.5% per month, maybe 4-5% in a great month. If you are earning more than that, your risk is WAY too high. Therefore, if your risk is in check, your earnings are capped. How to make more money from trading.........Increase your...
I’m assuming, please correct if my assumption is wrong, that the 2%-5% return you mention is on the headline advertising “excitement” number and not underlying drawdown ie: 100k account = 10k draw. So 2
%-5% is return of 2k-5k on “100k” account? Equating to real world 20-50% on the 10.
  • #46,630
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:11pm Feb 3, 2025 4:11pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} You never know when Canadian Joker pull ups his smarty pants and start imposing reverse tariffs as retaliation measure which will make common man more suffer.
The moral of the story is :
If you beg, you are not respected.
If you retaliate, you earn respect.
All said and done, he smartly retaliated this time.
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  • #46,631
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:18pm Feb 3, 2025 4:18pm
Quoting navk
{quote} The moral of the story is : If you beg, you are not respected. If you retaliate, you earn respect. All said and done, he smartly retaliated this time.
Yea like he retaliated with china, india . A begger can't be chooser.
You imposed shit load of carbon tax why is he worried about tariff? Also there is like 40% personal income tax why can't he reduce that shit instead of making brave dick in front of Trump. Where is his manhood gone in front of Jagmeet . Please don't push me to expose
Now one of his former minister is targeting only TESLA just to teach him a lesson. Same shit he and his minsters have done with INDIA.
Is this kind of politics you expect from a leader? Is trump asking anything unreasonable. Why police force in canada is so useless and corrupt that you participate and in drug peddling cross border.
  • #46,632
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:28pm Feb 3, 2025 4:28pm
Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
{quote} I’m assuming, please correct if my assumption is wrong, that the 2%-5% return you mention is on the headline advertising “excitement” number and not underlying drawdown ie: 100k account = 10k draw. So 2 %-5% is return of 2k-5k on “100k” account? Equating to real world 20-50% on the 10.
Yes I'm talking about % of your max loss, so 100K personal account is 100K, 100Kprop is 10K, so need 1 million in prop to be same. Only benefit of "headline number" is buying power, but if you use it, you're overrisking.
Main point is you are elite doing 2-2.5% monthly consistently with low DD. In order to be worth it, you need atleast 1 mil personal account, otherwise you need to accumulate as much AUM as possible through props, Darwin, etc......
Of course, you can constantly YOLO, overrisk, but the props are really starting to frown on this, so...............
  • #46,633
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:31pm Feb 3, 2025 4:31pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Yea like he retaliated with china, india . A begger can't be chooser. You imposed shit load of carbon tax why is he worried about tariff? Also there is like 40% personal income tax why can't he reduce that shit instead of making brave dick in front of Trump. Where is his manhood gone in front of Jagmeet . Please don't push me to expose Now one of his former minister is targeting only TESLA just to teach him a lesson. Same shit he and his minsters have done with INDIA. Is this kind of politics you expect from a leader?...
Big question marks you put on previous politixxxxxcs.

This time, I believe it is handled better.
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  • #46,634
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:36pm Feb 3, 2025 4:36pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes I'm talking about % of your max loss, so 100K personal account is 100K, 100Kprop is 10K, so need 1 million in prop to be same. Only benefit of "headline number" is buying power, but if you use it, you're overrisking. Main point is you are elite doing 2-2.5% monthly consistently with low DD. In order to be worth it, you need atleast 1 mil personal account, otherwise you need to accumulate as much AUM as possible through props, Darwin, etc...... Of course, you can constantly YOLO, overrisk, but the props are really starting to frown on...
I dunno if this statement is entirely correct.

Prop firms ( futures ) put a condition that one must earn... 200 $ per day for 5 days in 14 day cycle in a 100k account in order to be eligible for payout
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  • #46,635
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:37pm Feb 3, 2025 4:37pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Big question marks you put on previous politixxxxxcs. This time, I believe it is handled better.
Its like credit history. Also trump must have given him indirect warning if you retaliate we will add more tariffs. Canada needs US more than other way around. It is hard to digest for you and me as Canadians but FACTS are FACTS.
  • #46,636
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:42pm Feb 3, 2025 4:42pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes I'm talking about % of your max loss, so 100K personal account is 100K, 100Kprop is 10K, so need 1 million in prop to be same. Only benefit of "headline number" is buying power, but if you use it, you're overrisking. Main point is you are elite doing 2-2.5% monthly consistently with low DD. In order to be worth it, you need atleast 1 mil personal account, otherwise you need to accumulate as much AUM as possible through props, Darwin, etc...... Of course, you can constantly YOLO, overrisk, but the props are really starting to frown on...
Another difference 5% loss in personal is 5K for 100K account but in prop it is at max 500-600$ (including PA fees). Even if some accounts are blown they can be replaced with cheaper cost
  • #46,637
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:45pm Feb 3, 2025 4:45pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Its like credit history. Also trump must have given him indirect warning if you retaliate we will add more tariffs. Canada needs US more than other way around. It is hard to digest for you and me as Canadians but FACTS are FACTS.
It is possible oil and gas exports would be directed to EU and Asia. Truxxmp knows this.

Canada was selling at cheaper price.

I need you, you need me.

This must be the policy for NA to cherish.
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  • #46,638
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:52pm Feb 3, 2025 4:52pm
Quoting navk
{quote} It is possible oil and gas exports would be directed to EU and Asia. Truxxmp knows this. Canada was selling at cheaper price. I need you, you need me. This must be the policy for NA to cherish.
You must be kidding me. Leave Europe and Asia aside go and cross your border either to US or Mexico fill up gas in your car and get back to me and tell the difference.
Canadian oil and gas is not like Saudi Arabia o UAE oil and gas. it is way more expensive.

Can you say same thing about US?
Our GDP is even less than CALFORNIA.
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  • #46,639
  • Feb 3, 2025 4:58pm Feb 3, 2025 4:58pm
Quoting navk
{quote} The moral of the story is : If you beg, you are not respected. If you retaliate, you earn respect. All said and done, he smartly retaliated this time.
If Canada was smart they would recognize what Donald is doing and simply redefine the game.
Invite China to setup factories in Canada.
Invite Russia to partner with Canada to manage the Arctic.
Cooperate with BRIC countries to grow Canada's economy instead of relying the US for handouts.

US businesses in Canada will be putting pressure on Trump to reverse his tariffs!
  • #46,640
  • Feb 3, 2025 5:03pm Feb 3, 2025 5:03pm
Quoting dantpm
{quote} If Canada was smart they would recognize what Donald is doing and simply redefine the game. Invite China to setup factories in Canada. Invite Russia to partner with Canada to manage the Arctic. Cooperate with BRIC countries to grow Canada's economy instead of relying the US for handouts. US businesses in Canada will be putting pressure on Trump to reverse his tariffs!
For that you need leader like TRUMP who thinks for their citizens. Leaders like biden and trudeau can't do a shit because they are corrupt and want to be in power at any cost via bringing illiagal migrants and giving freebies to them while taxing higher on working class.
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