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  • #45,761
  • Dec 31, 2024 9:26am Dec 31, 2024 9:26am
Quoting mrdfx
Guys when purchasing Apex, do I have to buy one by one or is there a way to buy 10/20 at the same time.
Yes they are doing that to avoid chargeback I believe. Other wise no logic in purchasing individual items. One tip use chrome and press back two times you just that will do magic to avoid filling all shit again and again.
  • #45,762
  • Dec 31, 2024 9:28am Dec 31, 2024 9:28am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} If anyone is interested let me know and I will share how to copytrade from MT4/MT5 to almost any platform including Ninjatrader or Tradovate. Including US traders.
Yes......how about Quantower?
  • #45,763
  • Dec 31, 2024 9:40am Dec 31, 2024 9:40am
Quoting montygoldy
Mofo Finally a good YOLO on market open..... now micro to get to the finish line..... if i pass these accounts goal would 100-200 a day max using the micros as i am not in rush to pull big payout... {image}
.. SUCCESSS >>> YESSS >>>>

What a new year gift.... secured max funding....

Goal for janauary/feb to get that 2000x20 bag...

No rush on these accounts.. will be aiming 200-400 a day using micros only and get to magical 4600$ mark to pull 2000x20 bag..... Need 2-3 of those this whole year from apex to check them out of my list... Absolutely freakingly achievable

FUTURES ELITE 50kX5 ALSO PASSED SO 7500$ POTENTIAL FOR JANUARY

BLUE GUARDIAN 50kX3 - NEED 700$ more to pass them as well

AQUAFUTURES AT BREAKEVEN i.e no profits yet recovered yesterday dll
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Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #45,764
  • Dec 31, 2024 9:53am Dec 31, 2024 9:53am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} .. SUCCESSS >>> YESSS >>>> What a new year gift.... secured max funding.... Goal for janauary/feb to get that 2000x20 bag... No rush on these accounts.. will be aiming 200-400 a day using micros only and get to magical 4600$ mark to pull 2000x20 bag..... Need 2-3 of those this whole year from apex to check them out of my list... Absolutely freakingly achievable FUTURES ELITE 50kX5 ALSO PASSED SO 7500$ POTENTIAL FOR JANUARY...
I have no idea how you do this ! You are amazing bro !
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #45,765
  • Dec 31, 2024 10:02am Dec 31, 2024 10:02am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} If anyone is interested let me know and I will share how to copytrade from MT4/MT5 to almost any platform including Ninjatrader or Tradovate. Including US traders.
please , share , I have not seen this possibility yet …
  • #45,766
  • Edited 7:07pm Dec 31, 2024 10:04am | Edited 7:07pm
Quoting procrude
{quote} I have no idea how you do this ! You are amazing bro !
Its not amazing .. what i have learnt over the years when its your day for me its i.e BUYERS DAY .... GO ALL OUT....

I have already pointed out many times... You can also do it...... Its all magic of maths...

1. Start with 1 account, get a payout, divide the payout into 3 and buy evals in batches. When you get into loop its just peace of mind even if you blow it wont matter as its all house money.
2. Find out whats the best evals size you have the max chance of passing for me its 50k.....

Thats it ... you'll blow some and also pass accounts faster.....

Fun fact of APex passed accounts in SECOND TRY YOLO>>>>>> TRIED ONCE WITH 80% offer week back and failed
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #45,767
  • Dec 31, 2024 10:32am Dec 31, 2024 10:32am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes......how about Quantower?
Quantower has cTrader but not Meta..

I asked Quantower and they said they have no plans for Meta despite of being it more popular..
  • #45,768
  • Dec 31, 2024 10:39am Dec 31, 2024 10:39am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} please , share , I have not seen this possibility yet …
Ok guys here is what I have just recently found.
For a long time I tried to tie MT4/Mt5 to Futures platforms with no success.
Why did this matter? Well I like MT4 the most and I have the most indicators that work for me. Ninjatrader and tradovate just always seemed to suck to me. Also I have spent years doing software development on my own personal Trading Panel that helps me a lot.
I am not an affiliate nor am I endorsing this company as I just found them and have not tested their software yet. That being said I plan to buy a $200 lifteime software license to use MT4 to bridge to Ninjatrader.
I will then use MT5 AMP Futures Demo to connect it to initially.
Here is the link: https://tradingconnectivity.company.site/
Pipmaster77 they can do Quantower as well. Also both directions for most platforms.
There is a free trial: https://boolapi.blogspot.com/2024/08...d-symbols.html
My trade panel:
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  • #45,769
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:12am Dec 31, 2024 11:12am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} If anyone is interested let me know and I will share how to copytrade from MT4/MT5 to almost any platform including Ninjatrader or Tradovate. Including US traders.
No, thanks, not interested.
Manual trading by the way is so hectic when you have like 10-12 accounts, entering lot size, entering tp, sl even if just copy pasting figures it takes time and price just keeps moving so in every account, entry price ia different and therefore sl & tp are also different. Not easy managing a lot of accounts. Merging accounts or big accounts like 100k, 200k, 400k are gpod.
  • #45,770
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:17am Dec 31, 2024 11:17am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i have feeling they not gonna extend the sale so better load up.. its like 40 evals prices at 90% = 20 evals at 80% discount....... they are paying 40k payouts if you follow rules....
Yes, at 90% off it's like paying an extra $16 to go STF, if you buy 40 @$640, pass 20 and then you essentially pay same as MFFU, without the eval and you can have 20 accounts.
If I were to ask anyone if they would be willing to pay $640 for the priviledge of buying 20 STF accounts at $85, who's in? Hell, even if it takes 60 for total of $960, $2,660 for 40k bag (as Monty would say)
  • #45,771
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:19am Dec 31, 2024 11:19am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} Ok guys here is what I have just recently found. For a long time I tried to tie MT4/Mt5 to Futures platforms with no success. Why did this matter? Well I like MT4 the most and I have the most indicators that work for me. Ninjatrader and tradovate just always seemed to suck to me. Also I have spent years doing software development on my own personal Trading Panel that helps me a lot. I am not an affiliate nor am I endorsing this company as I just found them and have not tested their software yet. That being said I plan to buy a $200 lifteime...
There are no futures chart in MT4.
What will you copy from MT4 to Futures Platform??
Also MT4 indicators don't work on MT5.
Learning to trade without indicators is probably the best idea.
Even if we have the mql code still its not easy to develop indicators for MT5 & when we don't have the code its impossible.
If there is some hack like to run MT4 indicators in MT5 via some engine or virtual machine that would be great. Some kind of innovation need in this area.
  • #45,772
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:21am Dec 31, 2024 11:21am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} Ok guys here is what I have just recently found. For a long time I tried to tie MT4/Mt5 to Futures platforms with no success. Why did this matter? Well I like MT4 the most and I have the most indicators that work for me. Ninjatrader and tradovate just always seemed to suck to me. Also I have spent years doing software development on my own personal Trading Panel that helps me a lot. I am not an affiliate nor am I endorsing this company as I just found them and have not tested their software yet. That being said I plan to buy a $200 lifteime...
let us know how reliable the copying is …

these guys are trying to be better than the most popular trade copier for Ninja , Replikanto
I have heard good feedback from the VPS provider QuantVPS
They are planning to add Metatrader in the future

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experttradingprogrammers.com/platformless-tradecopier/

more to read on the Ninja forum

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  • #45,773
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:28am Dec 31, 2024 11:28am
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  • #45,774
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:34am Dec 31, 2024 11:34am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} There are no futures chart in MT4. What will you copy from MT4 to Futures Platform?? Also MT4 indicators don't work on MT5. Learning to trade without indicators is probably the best idea. Even if we have the mql code still its not easy to develop indicators for MT5 & when we don't have the code its impossible. If there is some hack like to run MT4 indicators in MT5 via some engine or virtual machine that would be great. Some kind of innovation need in this area.
you will copy SPOT EUR/USD in Meta to the corresponding EuroFX FUTURES contract in Ninja or the other way around, this is called mapping
or SPOT Gold to Gold futures , etc….

help.quantower.com/quantower/miscellaneous-panels/symbol-mapping-manager
  • #45,775
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:34am Dec 31, 2024 11:34am
wow I didn't realize this until only now, big difference between Rythmic and Tradovate accounts on APEX:
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  • #45,776
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:40am Dec 31, 2024 11:40am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} you will copy SPOT EUR/USD in Meta to tye corresponding EuroFX FUTURES contract in Ninja or the other way around, this is called mapping or SPOT Gold to Gold futures , etc….
But that will not work, will not give accurate signals, there is difference in prices, in movements in spots & futures
even if we seeing the same thing ie. EURO Spot, vs EURO futures

ANYONE HERE WHO USE MT4 TO TRADE FUTURES & HOW??
THERE MUST BE SOME WAY, AT PRESENT I doN't knowww
  • #45,777
  • Dec 31, 2024 11:50am Dec 31, 2024 11:50am
Quoting josh1111
wow I didn't realize this until only now, big difference between Rythmic and Tradovate accounts on APEX: {image}
Not sure I understand the benefit.....when my eval hits the profit target, I will stop trading. What is the difference if it stops trailing?
Is my brain not working today? Am I missing something?
  • #45,778
  • Dec 31, 2024 12:06pm Dec 31, 2024 12:06pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Its not amazing .. what i have learnt over the years when its your day for its i.e BUYERS DAY .... GO ALL OUT.... I have already pointed out many times... You can also do it...... Its all magic of maths... 1. Start with 1 account, get a payout, divide the payout into 3 and buy evals in batches. When you get into loop its just peace of mind even if you blow it wont matter as its all house money. 2. Find out whats the best evals size you have the max chance of passing for me its 50k..... Thats it ... you'll blow some and also pass accounts...
when you buy more than 1 account, will you buy one by one or buy all evaluations ( let us say 10 ) at one click ?
Intraday only.
  • #45,779
  • Dec 31, 2024 12:22pm Dec 31, 2024 12:22pm
Wow I didn't realize this new to me rule from APEX, seriously horrible rule:
To me a $50K account is only a $2500 account so this rule now makes it a $750 account!
30% Negative P&L Rule

  1. Limit on Losses: Open trades should not exceed a 30% negative drawdown from the account’s profit balance.

    1. Example: For a $50,000 account, if the profit balance is $4,000, a trader should not allow a drawdown exceeding $1,200.


  2. New/Low Profit Accounts: For accounts that are new or have low profits, the 30% rule is based on the trailing threshold (e.g., 30% of $2,500 on a $50,000 account would be $750).
  3. Adjustment Based on Growth: If the account balance doubles the safety net, traders may use a 50% drawdown limit instead of 30%.

Example:

  1. For a $50,000 account, if you accumulate $2,600 in profit and pass the safety net, your risk is calculated based on 30% of that $2,600. If your profits rise to $5,200, your drawdown allowance can increase to $2,600 (50% of $5,200).

  • #45,780
  • Dec 31, 2024 12:28pm Dec 31, 2024 12:28pm
Quoting genuine007
{quote} But that will not work, will not give accurate signals, there is difference in prices, in movements in spots & futures even if we seeing the same thing ie. EURO Spot, vs EURO futures ANYONE HERE WHO USE MT4 TO TRADE FUTURES & HOW?? THERE MUST BE SOME WAY, AT PRESENT I doN't knowww
I only could find a Futures feed for MT5 via AMP Futures. I would prefer MT4 but MT5 is the next best thing and I have indicators and EA's + ability to program for both. I have also thought about making some software that could send alternate price feeds back to MT4 though.
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