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  • #43,721
  • Edited 9:15am Oct 26, 2024 8:00am | Edited 9:15am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} So allocations are based on indexing your trades by Darwinex algo but when it comes to investors, they can say hey Darwinex, I want to throw x amount on this guy, please hook me up and then it's done? so, 1.66% in one year enters gold? Sounds so easy.
Yep, investors can see your Darwin and join anytime separate from the Darwinex allocations you are trading. IT DOES sound easy but currently there are 7,266 Siver traders (1057 in the money) yet only 199 Gold traders and only 70 are in the money this late in the month. Gold doesnt use a 'rating' its just a 'Percent Earned' free for all. Only 70 people in Gold have earned over 0.78% and the month is almost done. It shows how hard it is for most people to maintain consistency. All it takes is 2% a month without suffering a dip so bad you could never exceed the High-Water-Mark and earn commissions again.

Thats when you see HOF systems stop trading. They take a monthly loss so big its not worth grinding the account to profitability again vs starting from scratch. So consistency and risk-management are the only tools required to open the floodgates. Your 1.66% would earn you a 65,000 allocation for 6-months right now in gold, 2% even more. (and with only 4 trading days to go GLCB will gets 100's of thousands even if he doesnt win the 1st place 500K 6-month allocation)
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  • #43,722
  • Oct 26, 2024 8:19am Oct 26, 2024 8:19am
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Yep, investors can see your Darwin and join anytime separate from the Darwinex allocations you are trading. IT DOES sound easy but currently there are 7,266 Siver traders (1057 in the money) yet only 199 Gold traders and only 70 are in the money this late in the month. Gold doesnt use a 'rating' its just a 'Percent Earned' free for all. Only 70 people in Gold have earned over 0.78% and the month is almost done. It show how hard it is for most people to maintain consistency. All it takes is 2% a month without suffering a dip so bad you could...
Right now I just want to appease the rating metrics.
My main strategy is to keep the dd low, ie 1% and let the equity in the account grow even if slowly.
I'm looking to make 1X max dd first. Then 2X max dd and 3X so forth.

Whatever way that effects the rating, I like to see and I think it will work favorably.

I know it is not % gain centered which most traders go for but a big and ever widening gap between max dd and a growing equity is my main focus. Hoping the rest comes with this.
  • #43,723
  • Oct 26, 2024 8:27am Oct 26, 2024 8:27am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} As I always say PAYOUT FUND FURTHER EVALS.... Purchased evals.... 50kx5 - Takeprofittrader (Need to be careful as if we hit DLL it'll liquidate the account) 50kx7 - Tradeify (3rd try) PLan is to go slow and aim for 800-1k a day .... {image} {image}
Monty are u full funded with MFFU?
  • #43,724
  • Oct 26, 2024 9:45am Oct 26, 2024 9:45am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Besides Lux , Funderpro is the other that claims to have real $ live accounts when funded , anyone experience with this 1 ? they had Meta but not anymore , now Tradelocker , cTrader is in the pipeline {image}
i know some friends of mine that are trading with them. till now i've heard that everything is smooth and there weren't any problems so far. the payouts are done within some hours......
  • #43,725
  • Oct 26, 2024 9:57am Oct 26, 2024 9:57am
Quoting AlessandroGG
{quote} i know some friends of mine that are trading with them. till now i've heard that everything is smooth and there weren't any problems so far. the payouts are done within some hours......
how many friends ?
  • #43,726
  • Oct 26, 2024 11:13am Oct 26, 2024 11:13am
I asked the question on x about where to get 3 m of funding. Turns out despite there being 5 billion props choosing safely who to get funded with is very difficult.

one kid got upset when I said no to fundednext. No interest in being accused of copy trading when I am not. Or matching IPs when that’s impossible. But the same goes for many of the other big names. What this proves is that lots of people even if they get paid do so without retaining the account. To achieve my goal of 1m from 700 spend I need to be able to hold accounts for a few months whilst gathering others.

it shows an serious problem in the industry because with so many options and some spare cash it’s still hard to actually get funding, virtual or not and the difficulty doesn’t come from the trading.
  • #43,727
  • Oct 26, 2024 11:28am Oct 26, 2024 11:28am
Quoting Takisd
I asked the question on x about where to get 3 m of funding. Turns out despite there being 5 billion props choosing safely who to get funded with is very difficult. one kid got upset when I said no to fundednext. No interest in being accused of copy trading when I am not. Or matching IPs when that’s impossible. But the same goes for many of the other big names. What this proves is that lots of people even if they get paid do so without retaining the account. To achieve my goal of 1m from 700 spend I need to be able to hold accounts for a few months...
I have the same problem, that's why I collect DZero accounts. Was thinking of Blueberry 200k because of the firms location, tough Indices 10:1 leverage is terrible for challenge phase, for funded would do. If you trade mostly forex maybe it is good to add.
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  • #43,728
  • Oct 26, 2024 11:37am Oct 26, 2024 11:37am
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} I have the same problem, that's why I collect DZero accounts. Was thinking of Blueberry 200k because of the firms location, tough Indices 10:1 leverage is terrible for challenge phase, for funded would do. If you trade mostly forex maybe it is good to add. {image}
I think I will move from prop to something like zulutrade with some of the profit from my payout. See if that is a better route as my model I am using for the experiment is consistent. But being realistic, if the calculation is correct, any major traction will kill my alpha due to volume exposure. If say 15 million leveraged was following the trade most likely some of the followers will get slipped very badly.
  • #43,729
  • Oct 26, 2024 12:25pm Oct 26, 2024 12:25pm
Quoting Takisd
I asked the question on x about where to get 3 m of funding. Turns out despite there being 5 billion props choosing safely who to get funded with is very difficult. one kid got upset when I said no to fundednext. No interest in being accused of copy trading when I am not. Or matching IPs when that’s impossible. But the same goes for many of the other big names. What this proves is that lots of people even if they get paid do so without retaining the account. To achieve my goal of 1m from 700 spend I need to be able to hold accounts for a few months...
between what values fluctuates your leverage used ?
  • #43,730
  • Oct 26, 2024 12:28pm Oct 26, 2024 12:28pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} Monty are u full funded with MFFU?
My total prop portfolio

1. Mffu - 50k x 3 (funded)
2. Topstep 50k x 5 (funded)
3. Tradeify 50k x 7 (evals)
4. Takeprofitrader 50 x 5 (eval)

will try apex 50k x 20 on nfp friday…

Goal for this year is to build maximum accounts and aim 200-300 a day following on @pip footsteps….

one thing i have learnt from past few months 50k is the best no need to go with any bigger account. Pass it quickly and spend time on building drawdown there.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #43,731
  • Oct 26, 2024 12:51pm Oct 26, 2024 12:51pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} between what values fluctuates your leverage used ?
From my understanding these zulu systems just open a proportional trade on someones account. So lets say I buy 10 lots of Dow, then all the followers will also open a proportional trade on their account at the same time. Leading to huge volume entering dow as each account likely has leverage 1:25 or higher. This means some of the followers will likely get slippage as dow is not a wildly liquid asset on single price.
  • #43,732
  • Oct 26, 2024 1:33pm Oct 26, 2024 1:33pm
Quoting Takisd
I asked the question on x about where to get 3 m of funding. Turns out despite there being 5 billion props choosing safely who to get funded with is very difficult. one kid got upset when I said no to fundednext. No interest in being accused of copy trading when I am not. Or matching IPs when that’s impossible. But the same goes for many of the other big names. What this proves is that lots of people even if they get paid do so without retaining the account. To achieve my goal of 1m from 700 spend I need to be able to hold accounts for a few months...
You can probably still find 100K in total DD out there, but 300K in total DD from reputable props seems damn near impossible on the FX side of the business these days.
  • #43,733
  • Oct 26, 2024 1:39pm Oct 26, 2024 1:39pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} My total prop portfolio 1. Mffu - 50k x 3 (funded) 2. Topstep 50k x 5 (funded) 3. Tradeify 50k x 7 (evals) 4. Takeprofitrader 50 x 5 (eval) will try apex 50k x 20 on nfp friday… Goal for this year is to build maximum accounts and aim 200-300 a day following on @pip footsteps…. one thing i have learnt from past few months 50k is the best no need to go with any bigger account. Pass it quickly and spend time on building drawdown there.
The 150Ks are almost as easy to pass via the report yolo method with non daily limit props. Outside of that pass/fail in <2 min method... the >50K accounts never really made any sense to me due to their higher target to DD ratios. The extra time waisted trying to pass could have been otherwise spent building the 50K DD into a 150/250/300K DD.
  • #43,734
  • Oct 26, 2024 2:01pm Oct 26, 2024 2:01pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} You can probably still find 100K in total DD out there, but 300K in total DD from reputable props seems damn near impossible on the FX side of the business these days.
Even some of the bigger names have history of banning profitable traders for no reason so I am going to try to make a tier 2 list as well, which would put me at about 1.5-1.8 tier 1 then the rest will have to be risky.
  • #43,735
  • Oct 26, 2024 2:01pm Oct 26, 2024 2:01pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} From my understanding these zulu systems just open a proportional trade on someones account. So lets say I buy 10 lots of Dow, then all the followers will also open a proportional trade on their account at the same time. Leading to huge volume entering dow as each account likely has leverage 1:25 or higher. This means some of the followers will likely get slippage as dow is not a wildly liquid asset on single price.
How you can trust such social copy platforms like Zulu, when they can see your trades and reengineer your strategy in no time and then your little alpha is already lost. Second easily they can also do not pay you anything trading 0.01 lots with minimum account and then cloud copy to their own bigger accounts to avoid profit sharing!
  • #43,736
  • Oct 26, 2024 2:03pm Oct 26, 2024 2:03pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} The 150Ks are almost as easy to pass via the report yolo method with non daily limit props. Outside of that pass/fail in <2 min method... the >50K accounts never really made any sense to me due to their higher target to DD ratios. The extra time waisted trying to pass could have been otherwise spent building the 50K DD into a 150/250/300K DD.
Exactly i did that many times when i tired 150k... Passing them is one thing but need to pass the threshold as well to get the payout which means bigger daily targets to get to on average 10 days payout..... Higher chance of failure...

Instead go with 50k --> average 200-300 a day in same 10 days period eligible for a payout.....

One thing that is important is GETTING TO A FIRST PAYOUT....... after that its a smooth ride if you know what you doing.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #43,737
  • Oct 26, 2024 2:08pm Oct 26, 2024 2:08pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} How you can trust such social copy platforms like Zulu, when they can see your trades and reengineer your strategy in no time and then your little alpha is already lost. Second easily they can also do not pay you anything trading 0.01 lots with minimum account and then cloud copy to their own bigger accounts to avoid profit sharing!
Then I will go to their office with a molotov. It is only a boat ride away.
  • #43,738
  • Edited 8:04pm Oct 26, 2024 7:45pm | Edited 8:04pm
hey guys,

I have few questions on Apex SIM account.


1) Accidentally, if the open trade ( s ) loss goes above 30 % and i did not take loss what happens ? I mean if floating loss goes above 750 when Profit earned is 2.5k

2) And i see that 1 : 5 ratio in any trades.

Assume that my open trade loss goes above 500 $ , but all trades turn into my side and i make profit, but less than 100 $. And assume that i could close in profit for just 90 $

What happens in this case ?
Intraday only.
  • #43,739
  • Edited 8:59pm Oct 26, 2024 8:49pm | Edited 8:59pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} On a Friday night, markets closed, I'm having a nice informative conversation with someone who has been there and done that and knows the details..;. And then you butt in with your big fat ass pointing us to stale info from the past and onto another thread. What is the use of your big fat ass other than to disrupt? Youi can spoon feed your big fat interrupting ass to one of your snobby know it all buddies of yours in this thread. Now get lost.
Another lazy selfish child. Relax cupcake.

Today's children are so angry
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #43,740
  • Oct 26, 2024 9:10pm Oct 26, 2024 9:10pm
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} You can only have ONE Darwinex account open at a time per email. If you blowup your demo account you simply restart so you only control one account at a time. As far as your blown track record its archived but not linked to your current trading in any way. Each account gets a unique random stock ticker "SEDF" each time. You could always remember older ticker names and search them but I dont think anyone can see/find them unless you tell them what your old tickers are. Its a fresh start every time. With different email addresses you could...
Good job answering these questions. We are fortunate enough to have google in the US. They don't have that in Canada. I think comrade Trudeau banned google.
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Also they don't have any info on their sight. Oh wait, they do. My bad
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