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  • #37,821
  • Jun 14, 2024 2:01am Jun 14, 2024 2:01am
Quoting montygoldy
Alright guys secured 20k in bag for 10 apex accounts (yesterday unfortunately was loss of 900$ but still i am way beyond of buffer) one more day to go so only flipping and then fingers crossed to get it approved... My only downside is on my second day i had a bigger loss 1k (in reality 300$ rest 700$ was the profit i lost) at one point it was 70% of my account in drawdown coz of trailing..... Not sure will it get me denied.... Nvm started other 10 today and for these gonna go slow and steady following all rules and max contract of 2 mini's at a...
Day 2 - 300$ target done....
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  • #37,822
  • Jun 14, 2024 2:50am Jun 14, 2024 2:50am
Quoting KeWbix
{quote} I was banned for 7 days in APEX discord for using the eyeroll emoji smmfh
try the shit emoji
  • #37,823
  • Jun 14, 2024 4:09am Jun 14, 2024 4:09am
Anyone trading dow ..its at a important zone… if it breaks long term sells… massive 4h head n shoulder patterns
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  • #37,824
  • Jun 14, 2024 4:58am Jun 14, 2024 4:58am
tradovate has begun fiddling with my accounts..... the distance to liqudate will be incorrect till you place the first trade..... it will then adjust properly....

though they have not reinstated any accounts that were blown.....

might have figured out part of the problem..... when the orders were being rejected, i could not place targets cause they would be rejected.... to get around this i began placing atm orders at dollar amounts....

it appears that the atm device does not take into consideration lot size.... it seems to use 1 and only 1..... so when i was placing a single micro with targets of 500$ everything was correct.....

however, if placing a 10 micro order, the targets were the same value as the 1 micro value.... so my loss would be 5000, not 500....

i was thinking that the atm panel would do some math and adjust the 10 micro order accordingly.....

the 30 micro trade below has the atm set at 500$..... the targets it set were correct for a single micro, but is 15,000 for 30 micro.....h
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  • #37,825
  • Jun 14, 2024 7:27am Jun 14, 2024 7:27am
Hi there. Anyone tried Take Profit Trader? 40% off and no activation fees. Is it scam or not ?
  • #37,826
  • Jun 14, 2024 7:39am Jun 14, 2024 7:39am
Quoting hayseed
the 30 micro trade below has the atm set at 500$..... the targets it set were correct for a single micro, but is 15,000 for 30 micro

It will be, obviously: advanced trade management parameters are always displayed "per lot" of the instrument to which they’re attached.

But why would anyone ever trade 30 lots of MES (commission about $45) rather than 3 lots of ES (commission about $15 for the same returns)?!
  • #37,827
  • Jun 14, 2024 7:40am Jun 14, 2024 7:40am
Quoting MoHoSK
Hi there. Anyone tried Take Profit Trader? 40% off and no activation fees. Is it scam or not ?
They are legit. But I prefer smaller monthly fee + activation fee rather than paying everything upfront.
  • #37,828
  • Jun 14, 2024 9:24am Jun 14, 2024 9:24am
Quoting Quickly
{quote} It will be, obviously: advanced trade management parameters are always displayed "per lot" of the instrument to which they’re attached. But why would anyone ever trade 30 lots of MES (commission about $45) rather than 3 lots of ES (commission about $15 for the same returns)?!
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hey quickly..... thanks for the reply..... it was no so 'obvious' to me..... actually the opposite..... i will will verify that is correct on other platforms today.....

if someone says they want a 500$ target, i write the code to produce 500$ regardless of lot size..... the lot size will just increase or decrease the distance to the target..... a 3 lot order requires 1/3 the distance of a 1 lot order, but both trades will produce the expected 500$ target....

as for commissions..... i have said many times that swap and commissions never enter my mind..... they don't..... they are insignificant , to me.....

as for ticker choice.... it's simpler, for me, to focus only on micros..... trading both the es and mes requires extra care.....

and speaking of care, the profit on that order ended up near 2500$ in less than 1 hour..... should i care about the 30$.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,829
  • Jun 14, 2024 11:25am Jun 14, 2024 11:25am
Quoting hayseed
if someone says they want a 500$ target, i write the code to produce 500$ regardless of lot size...
Fair enough! You’re perhaps thinking of CFDs, rather than futures, there? On all the platforms I’m familiar with, it’s as I described (but I’ve never used MetaTrader, so I’m wondering if you mean those, MT4 and MT5?).


Quoting hayseed
i have said many times that swap and commissions never enter my mind..... they don't.....
Again, fair enough!

Sorry, I hadn’t seen your earlier posts on that subject.

Must say, though, I don’t quite understand, even so, why you’d voluntarily choose to pay $45 commission rather than $15, where you actually have a choice. Not quite so easy to understand that, but it's your money and your choice which to pay.

Good luck!
  • #37,830
  • Jun 14, 2024 11:39am Jun 14, 2024 11:39am
Has anyone here have experience with Interactive Brokers trading futures through TradingView?
I have set up an account with them through Darwinex.
  • #37,831
  • Jun 14, 2024 5:43pm Jun 14, 2024 5:43pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Asked in Discord a few days ago if 9 days was an abnormal amount of time for a payout request. Went to Discord tonight and now "I don't have permission to post"
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did you by chance get your payout notice today......

i had one account that fell a few dollars below the threshold..... never noticed till this weeks tradovate goings on..... it was still under review....

today i received notice that the payout was approved....

so maybe if you request a payout and the balance falls below, as long as you get it back up before the approve or deny day which i'm guessing is the 14th, it's forgiven.....

maybe it will hit the bank thursday .....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,832
  • Jun 14, 2024 7:26pm Jun 14, 2024 7:26pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- did you by chance get your payout notice today...... i had one account that fell a few dollars below the threshold..... never noticed till this weeks tradovate goings on..... it was still under review.... today i received notice that the payout was approved.... so maybe if you request a payout and the balance falls below, as long as you get it back up before the approve or deny day which i'm guessing is the 14th, it's forgiven..... maybe it will hit the bank thursday .....h
They just sent me an email after 14 days notifying me that my payout was denied for the 30% windfall rule. Two weeks to figure that out.

Anyways, all good. My rebill date is the 16th so I just cancelled the account and am done with APEX.

Congrats on your payouts. Keep up the good work!
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #37,833
  • Jun 14, 2024 7:40pm Jun 14, 2024 7:40pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} They just sent me an email after 14 days notifying me that my payout was denied for the 30% windfall rule. Two weeks to figure that out. Anyways, all good. My rebill date is the 16th so I just cancelled the account and am done with APEX. Congrats on your payouts. Keep up the good work!
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thanks...... will be watching your darwin progress..........h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,834
  • Jun 15, 2024 12:13am Jun 15, 2024 12:13am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} They just sent me an email after 14 days notifying me that my payout was denied for the 30% windfall rule. Two weeks to figure that out. Anyways, all good. My rebill date is the 16th so I just cancelled the account and am done with APEX. Congrats on your payouts. Keep up the good work!
30% consistency rule???
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  • #37,835
  • Jun 15, 2024 12:39am Jun 15, 2024 12:39am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} 30% consistency rule???
A "consistency" rule that they can enforce with inconsistency. Gotta love it.
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  • #37,836
  • Jun 15, 2024 1:28am Jun 15, 2024 1:28am
hm, I didn't expect that reason and it definitely do not take 14 days to check this. Would you pls clarify? What is your biggest day in profit? Can you post your trades history?
  • #37,837
  • Jun 15, 2024 1:37am Jun 15, 2024 1:37am
Quoting fx_rookie
hm, I didn't expect that reason and it definitely do not take 14 days to check this. Would you pls clarify? What is your biggest day in profit? Can you post your trades history?
Not worth worrying about for me. Performance shows my largest trade win at $700. When I requested my payout my ending balance was at 54,500. Not sure how they get the 30% but their consistency rules can be anything I guess.

Like I said before, no big deal. Can't stand indices or Tradovate anyways.
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  • #37,838
  • Jun 15, 2024 1:41am Jun 15, 2024 1:41am
looks pretty consistent and great work for me, but I think they look at the Profit for 1 day to be less than 30% of overall profit for the period.
  • #37,839
  • Jun 15, 2024 1:47am Jun 15, 2024 1:47am
Quoting fx_rookie
looks pretty consistent and great work for me, but I think they look at the Profit for 1 day to be less than 30% of overall profit for the period.
Who knows, who cares. I don't care how long it takes for the money to hit my bank once approved but if it take 2 weeks to approve/deny then it's not for me. Throw in the "at our discretion" policy and it's definitely not for me.

They earned my 1 star review. Time to move on. Actually leaving a review seems like too much work.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #37,840
  • Jun 15, 2024 2:27am Jun 15, 2024 2:27am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Who knows, who cares. I don't care how long it takes for the money to hit my bank once approved but if it take 2 weeks to approve/deny then it's not for me. Throw in the "at our discretion" policy and it's definitely not for me. They earned my 1 star review. Time to move on. Actually leaving a review seems like too much work.
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