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  • #37,761
  • Edited 8:36pm Jun 12, 2024 3:49pm | Edited 8:36pm
@ Stoneyrocks

Here you go... The data from the source was updated to improve accuracy & delayed last month so I decided to redo the sheet.

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  • #37,762
  • Edited 6:23pm Jun 12, 2024 5:10pm | Edited 6:23pm
Is there still payment for activation fee in Darwin zero?
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  • #37,763
  • Jun 12, 2024 5:44pm Jun 12, 2024 5:44pm
Quoting CableJ
@ Stoneyrocks Here you go... The data from the source was updated to improve accuracy & delayed last month so I decided to redo the sheet. {image}{image}
I just went through elitetrading funding payout policy and any prop trader with sane mind would never ever spend a dime into them. I mean are they for real. First higher prices compare to the competition and then So many BS rules to get payout. Check this some Bulljive how they calculate a trading day and you need 14 of them to get paid and cant withdraw a cent from safety net.
They should be on everyone ALLTIME BANLIST
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  • #37,764
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:03pm Jun 12, 2024 8:03pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} nope mnually need to close.
Hey Monty, what about OCO orders? On Quantower I set my TP and SL before I enter a trade and I realized that the SL, if hit will close all orders, including working. I like the Asian session too and sometimes I notice it will run straight up to the daily R1 or R2 pivot levels while I'm sleeping. It's rare but I've noticed that when all the 5 major stocks on NAS are green, and if price hits the DPP during Asian, it can be a runner.
  • #37,765
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:08pm Jun 12, 2024 8:08pm
Quoting coastie0194
{quote} Hey Monty, what about OCO orders? On Quantower I set my TP and SL before I enter a trade and I realized that the SL, if hit will close all orders, including working. I like the Asian session too and sometimes I notice it will run straight up to the daily R1 or R2 pivot levels while I'm sleeping. It's rare but I've noticed that when all the 5 major stocks on NAS are green, and if price hits the DPP during Asian, it can be a runner.
For example, price dropped to the WR1 on NAS and it bullish now, bounced right off the level. I watch the weekly pivots too. This may run up to the DR1 or even D2. Fundamentally, the 5 major stocks, Tesla and Apple are green and AMZN Google are red so it may not run tonight.
  • #37,766
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:10pm Jun 12, 2024 8:10pm
Quoting CableJ
@ Stoneyrocks Here you go... The data from the source was updated to improve accuracy & delayed last month so I decided to redo the sheet. {image}{image}
Interesting stats for Apex, of course this has no effect on the “tHe EnD is nEaR” clowns.
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  • #37,767
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:17pm Jun 12, 2024 8:17pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Interesting stats for Apex, of course this has no effect on the “tHe EnD is nEaR” clowns.
Hey Crypto, what are your thoughts on the recent Apex doom and gloom news? Personally, just my humble opinion, I think it's mostly coming from the folks trying to game the system. I could be wrong, just want to hear your input as a veteran futures trader. We're all in this to make money but I just want to trade conservatively to at this point. I'm trading my eval accounts like it's a PA account.
  • #37,768
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:18pm Jun 12, 2024 8:18pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I just went through elitetrading funding payout policy and any prop trader with sane mind would never ever spend a dime into them. I mean are they for real. First higher prices compare to the competition and then So many BS rules to get payout. Check this some Bulljive how they calculate a trading day and you need 14 of them to get paid and cant withdraw a cent from safety net. They should be on everyone ALLTIME BANLIST {image}
I would say the best options are Apex, Topstep and Take Profit Trader as far as ease of getting to payout. Topstep and TakeProfit pay daily once buffer is cleared.
  • #37,769
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:21pm Jun 12, 2024 8:21pm
Hey Pip, I know you trade Davits pivots, did you see that NAS bounce off the WR1, fundamentals didn't align but what's your thoughts on that set up. Just picking your brain as I know you mastered his process.
  • #37,770
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:29pm Jun 12, 2024 8:29pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I just went through elitetrading funding payout policy and any prop trader with sane mind would never ever spend a dime into them. I mean are they for real. First higher prices compare to the competition and then So many BS rules to get payout. Check this some Bulljive how they calculate a trading day and you need 14 of them to get paid and cant withdraw a cent from safety net. They should be on everyone ALLTIME BANLIST {image}
They were #3 or #4 on my personal list before they changed the rules on what qualifies as a minimum trade day. Now they are DOA.
  • #37,771
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:30pm Jun 12, 2024 8:30pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} They were #3 or #4 on my personal list before they changed the rules on what qualifies as a minimum trade day. Now they are DOA.
What about Take Profit Trader?
  • #37,772
  • Edited Jun 13, 2024 5:49am Jun 12, 2024 8:33pm | Edited Jun 13, 2024 5:49am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Interesting stats for Apex, of course this has no effect on the “tHe EnD is nEaR” clowns.
The back to back months of 80% off > 90% off > 250K sales definitely had a major impact, but it very likely also lead to rithmic server overload and total potential payouts above their comfort level which lead to the rule changes.
  • #37,773
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:37pm Jun 12, 2024 8:37pm
Quoting coastie0194
Hey Pip, I know you trade Davits pivots, did you see that NAS bounce off the WR1, fundamentals didn't align but what's your thoughts on that set up. Just picking your brain as I know you mastered his process.
I have the NAS beyond the R100 on the weekly and just approaching the R38 on the daily (which just reset 3 hours ago).
I day trade the indices so I may use weekly pivots as confluence, but they are designed for swing trading and holding 2-3 days. I find daily pivots more effective and I also have a chart with 4hr pivots.
The indices do respect ADR fairly well though and I have recently been using (quite successfully) order blocks on the 5 min.
Check out the strat shadow thread as well, incredible how price stays above or below the channel........just keep sliding your stop behind it.
I try to grab my $200-300 daily copied accross multiple accounts and get out and be done for the day. Today I traded from 10:40-10:45, caught a 46 point down move on DOW
Actually 10:40-10:53
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Easiest to snip it from my Darwinzero MT5 futures account, but same trade across all accounts, only 10% of the profit though....Darwin gives you a million on the futures calibration stage, so it was only 0.23% gain
Darwin I trade 10x the size, should probably be larger, but still trying to figure their "risk engine" out.
  • #37,774
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:45pm Jun 12, 2024 8:45pm
Quoting coastie0194
{quote} Hey Crypto, what are your thoughts on the recent Apex doom and gloom news? Personally, just my humble opinion, I think it's mostly coming from the folks trying to game the system. I could be wrong, just want to hear your input as a veteran futures trader. We're all in this to make money but I just want to trade conservatively to at this point. I'm trading my eval accounts like it's a PA account.
Apex had been saying they are working with rithmic on server expansion, but it hasn’t gone well (obviously).

Much like renting AWS for VPS, etc., you are reliant upon them to insure stability. You have no control and are dependent upon them to get it together.

Like cable has said, the recent deep discounts overwhelmed the servers.
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  • #37,775
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:48pm Jun 12, 2024 8:48pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Apex had been saying they are working with rithmic on server expansion, but it hasn’t gone well (obviously). Much like renting AWS for VPS, etc., you are reliant upon them to insure stability. You have no control and are dependent upon them to get it together. Like cable has said, the recent deep discounts overwhelmed the servers.
Yes, I am diversifying with some Topstep accounts, but must say I do love the ability to trade futures on Darwin with MT5.
  • #37,776
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:51pm Jun 12, 2024 8:51pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote}Check out the strat shadow thread as well, incredible how price stays above or below the channel........just keep sliding your stop behind it.
Yep. That and the daily VWAP is all you need.
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  • #37,777
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:55pm Jun 12, 2024 8:55pm
Quoting skyf
Is there still payment for activation fee in Darwin zero?
Darwinex Zero is 38 Euros per month.
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  • #37,778
  • Jun 12, 2024 8:57pm Jun 12, 2024 8:57pm
Quoting coastie0194
{quote} What about Take Profit Trader?
I cosign pips list..... I would also add Bulenox with a max of 11 accounts. Outside of the handling of the safety net buffer, they are basically anything goes like Apex was before the recent rule changes.
  • #37,779
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:05pm Jun 12, 2024 9:05pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} I cosign pips list..... I would also add Bulenox with a max of 11 accounts. Outside of the handling of the safety net buffer, they are basically anything goes like Apex was before the recent rule changes.
Just to add its 3 at time.. Once those 3 go beyond threshold then can activate next 3 and furthermore.
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  • #37,780
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:07pm Jun 12, 2024 9:07pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I would say the best options are Apex, Topstep and Take Profit Trader as far as ease of getting to payout. Topstep and TakeProfit pay daily once buffer is cleared.
i'll put myfundedfutures to mix as well.... they were alright. Also their prices are high so better wait for a nice offer like they did in april 50$ any challenge...
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