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  • #37,721
  • Jun 11, 2024 9:39pm Jun 11, 2024 9:39pm
Quoting montygoldy
First time seeing some weird behaviour on tradovate.. The moment i add limit orders its says "order rejected" and then next second it adds the order.... For Signal looking for gold to buy around 2322-24 zone...
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i sent in info on several hundred rejected..... could have sent more..... most of my day was spent doing everything imaginable to verify it was not on my end......

just received a email back..... below is only partial excerpt.....

i believe they are sincere on adjusting accounts...... i lost 12 today..... not sure how tradovate fits in.... i contacted tradovate directly also....

sent in more tonite..... it must be a tradovate or rithmic issue..... apex seems just caught in the middle.....h
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Key Updates:

  1. We are halting all trading for Rithmic users on Tuesday at 6 PM EDT until the restoration of all accounts is completed.
  2. Accounts Restoration: We are resetting accounts that were blown/failed between Sunday, June 9th, 6 PM EDT - Tuesday, June 11th, 5 PM EDT
  3. Balance Restoration: If your combined PnL is negative/red during the above timeframe, the accounts will be reset.
  4. Profits Protected: Any combined profits made during these two days will NOT be reset.

to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,722
  • Jun 11, 2024 9:45pm Jun 11, 2024 9:45pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- i sent in info on several hundred rejected..... could have sent more..... most of my day was spent doing everything imaginable to verify it was not on my end...... just received a email back..... below is only partial excerpt..... i believe they are sincere on adjusting accounts...... i lost 12 today..... not sure how tradovate fits in.... i contacted tradovate directly also.... sent in more tonite..... it must be a tradovate or rithmic issue..... apex seems just caught in the middle.....h //----- Key Updates: We are halting all trading...
I dont know what kind of restoration takes around 4-5 hours.
  • #37,723
  • Jun 11, 2024 9:46pm Jun 11, 2024 9:46pm
Quoting montygoldy
First time seeing some weird behaviour on tradovate.. The moment i add limit orders its says "order rejected" and then next second it adds the order.... For Signal looking for gold to buy around 2322-24 zone...
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it sounds like your copy trading..... the 'order rejected' is referring to an account in the group that was rejected and the order filled is for another account in the group.....

in a group of 5, today 2 accounts might fill and 3 accounts might not...... this screwed up my trailing stoplosses..... leaving some accounts with no stoploss.....

some accounts still reject any order..... there is no pattern to it that i can see....

my worst day ever.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,724
  • Jun 11, 2024 10:27pm Jun 11, 2024 10:27pm
Quoting dolamite
Why'd DOW drop 280 pts?.....No news, didn't see anything on the squawk...Is this the stock market participants taking profits before the CPI data? Freaking thing trading like the EUR/USD of yesteryear.
-Indices markets often move aggressively around the opening of NY session. Higher time-frames (e.g. >1H) appear to indicate normal market movement.
  • #37,725
  • Jun 11, 2024 10:38pm Jun 11, 2024 10:38pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} It seems tradovate is working...rithmic is still having issues. I can't login as per apex they will be doing rollback.
tradovate working fine.... except the small weird behaviour i meantioned.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #37,726
  • Edited 11:04pm Jun 11, 2024 10:39pm | Edited 11:04pm
Quoting montygoldy
DAY 9 1. Current running trade sl 10 points targetting 28points... may be put sl at breakeven. 2. Planning to buy 10x50k evals tonight... {image}
Thats a wrap..... DAY - 9

One more day to secure payout... Pretty nice buffer as well

Also purchased 10x50k seems like last day of 90% off
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  • #37,727
  • Jun 12, 2024 3:43am Jun 12, 2024 3:43am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Let us know when it hit your bank. I want to see the process is improved or not. For my only payout a couple month back it took alot of time.
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apex payout hit my bank last night..... that's about the normal 3 business days.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,728
  • Jun 12, 2024 3:48am Jun 12, 2024 3:48am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- apex payout hit my bank last night..... that's about the normal 3 business days.....h
Great !
How long was the whole process since you requested it ?

I guess Expo33 is still waiting for his investigation.
  • #37,729
  • Jun 12, 2024 4:06am Jun 12, 2024 4:06am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Great ! How long was the whole process since you requested it ? I guess Expo33 is still waiting for his investigation.
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submitted them late on the 4th.... they were approved on the 5th about 8pm...... so surely the final paperwork for apex would have been close of business on the 6th.... would put it about 3 business days after approval.....

banks don't get in a hurry handing out money.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,730
  • Jun 12, 2024 7:15am Jun 12, 2024 7:15am
LOL - you couldn't make it up.

At the moment, on Apex, both Tradovate and Rithmic accounts have broken down.

They've closed their Discord channel because of all the overwhelming complaints.

Over the last few days alone there've been a HUGE number of horrible reviews on Trustpilot from people saying their accounts weren't reset and that they were blocked from Discord for complaining.

But STILL there are people here who don't (or just "won't") understand the meaning of the words "The end is nigh."
  • #37,731
  • Jun 12, 2024 7:43am Jun 12, 2024 7:43am
Quoting Quickly
LOL - you couldn't make it up. At the moment, on Apex, both Tradovate and Rithmic accounts have broken down. They've closed their Discord channel because of all the overwhelming complaints. Over the last few days alone there've been a HUGE number of horrible reviews on Trustpilot from people saying their accounts weren't reset and that they were blocked from Discord for complaining. But STILL there are people here who don't (or just "won't") understand the meaning of the words "The end is nigh."...
We are gamblers, we can handle all these. We are not a chicken like you.
  • #37,732
  • Jun 12, 2024 7:54am Jun 12, 2024 7:54am
Quoting failinforex
We are gamblers, we can handle all these.
You still shouldn't have to, though. You deserve better.
  • #37,733
  • Jun 12, 2024 7:56am Jun 12, 2024 7:56am
Quoting failinforex
{quote} We are gamblers, we can handle all these. We are not a chicken like you.
Exactly. The risk:reward is better than any trade you can make on a personal account. Even if you have purchased 40 evals, you're in what? $680? That's a 2% loss on a 34K personal account. The reward is 50K in DD, if you pass 20. I haven't had a 73:1 R;R trade lately, but I'm not very good.....anyone else?
  • #37,734
  • Jun 12, 2024 7:57am Jun 12, 2024 7:57am
Market must have been dying to crush the $$$$......little dip in CPI and holy shit!!!!!
Could be the pump and dump before the fed rate decision
  • #37,735
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:02am Jun 12, 2024 9:02am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Exactly. The risk:reward is better than any trade you can make on a personal account. Even if you have purchased 40 evals, you're in what? $680? That's a 2% loss on a 34K personal account. The reward is 50K in DD, if you pass 20. I haven't had a 73:1 R;R trade lately, but I'm not very good.....anyone else?
Please stop. We don't want some people's brain to fry.

Talking about futures, Patak from Top Step is full of BS. Saying that they have trust pilot score bla bla bla with zero marketing investment (then he remeber that he put recently an advert). However this is totally false because at some point I was already tired of getting a video from him saying he was Patak, a former trader that lost bla bla bla and that he created top step.
Furthermore, he keeps saying in that all is real trades in top step when we see in T&C that trades are simulated. This is close to fraud. He would do better to shut his mouth now that futures are more under the highlights.
  • #37,736
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:17am Jun 12, 2024 9:17am
Any one is the apex dashboard updating ?????
Mine is behind 2 days.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #37,737
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:38am Jun 12, 2024 9:38am
Quoting montygoldy
Any one is the apex dashboard updating ????? Mine is behind 2 days.
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hey monty.... what dashboard are you referring to..... the only thing i see is my personal dashboard is a list of accounts purchased..... it only updates if i purchase another challenge....

is there something i'm missing.....h
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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #37,738
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:40am Jun 12, 2024 9:40am
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- hey monty.... what dashboard are you referring to..... the only thing i see is my personal dashboard is a list of accounts purchased..... it only updates if i purchase another challenge.... is there something i'm missing.....h //----- {image}
pa charts… section which shows daily profit loss
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #37,739
  • Jun 12, 2024 9:50am Jun 12, 2024 9:50am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Exactly. The risk:reward is better than any trade you can make on a personal account. Even if you have purchased 40 evals, you're in what? $680? That's a 2% loss on a 34K personal account. The reward is 50K in DD, if you pass 20. I haven't had a 73:1 R;R trade lately, but I'm not very good.....anyone else?
you need add monthly or life fees as well for this RR calculation
  • #37,740
  • Jun 12, 2024 10:13am Jun 12, 2024 10:13am
Quoting montygoldy
Any one is the apex dashboard updating ????? Mine is behind 2 days.
My rithmic traderpro updates in real time, apex dash updates at midnight, but yes I believe it is delayed.
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