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  • #37,661
  • Jun 10, 2024 12:43pm Jun 10, 2024 12:43pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I've been trading apex via quantower all morning with no issues. Well, only one trade earlier, already closed. Have a couple of limit orders sitting.
Haven't been about to log in since last Friday through either RTrader Pro or Quantower.

Nevermind. Just succeeded when I tried again. Not sure if I should place any trades. Hate to get stuck not being able to close.
  • #37,662
  • Jun 10, 2024 12:46pm Jun 10, 2024 12:46pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Isn't thats the point of any payout? Delay till you get frustrated. Once anything approve it takes literally 30 seconds if payouts gateway is set. So if they deny payout you have to trade normally for 10 days but do you still have to make same amount of money?
I'll have to reread their FAQ but it sounded like I had to run my 54500 up to 59000 to be eligible if I get denied because technically you're not entitled to the initial 4500 profit until you can make another 4500 without breaking the rules, Again, stringing out the timeline to collect that monthly fee. Well played APEX. Their not just going to hand out accounts for 19 bucks without a plan. No hard feelings on my end. If I broke the rules then I'll accept the consequences. I guess I could identify as a two-spirit unicorn genz/millenial then obviously it wouldn't be my fault. (apologies to all my younger friends)
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #37,663
  • Jun 10, 2024 12:49pm Jun 10, 2024 12:49pm
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I have been scalp trading es in apex with tradovate all morning till now ..no issues at all.. Anyway, I have tried tradovate , quantower and topstepx for a month now. My favorite is topstepx
TopstepX also my favorite but I've never had an issue with Tradovate.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #37,664
  • Jun 10, 2024 1:18pm Jun 10, 2024 1:18pm
Quoting pipmaster77
I have started two darwinex zero accounts, futures on MT5 and forex on MT4. I'll take the 15% and long term plan vs. the 80-90% casino, deny my payout bullshit (not that any of it is available to me here in the US anyway). Perhaps the CFTC did us a favor? (for a change)
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Expo, or any Darwin users, completely lost here, I made $4,100 on the futures account, which is 1 mil, would be 0.41%, no?
I know you have discussed their risk engine adjusting the trade size, can you point me to some type of tutorial on this?
  • #37,665
  • Jun 10, 2024 1:24pm Jun 10, 2024 1:24pm
does anyone here have comments about bright funded, with the new rules that fundingpips are imposing, i am now afraid of them, im would go for fxify again since they never failed me before, but i wanna know if bright funded is trustworthy. or should i just stick with 5ers.
  • #37,666
  • Edited 1:53pm Jun 10, 2024 1:28pm | Edited 1:53pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} The ideal times are from 10am to 3-4pm est. It is common to see rallies/sell offs into the close. Between the open 9:30-10 tends to be a lot of chop/indecision. Every day can be different so don’t expect one day to look like the previous (recency bias).
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} 10-20 points in asian session is good enough for me.
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} NY afternoon, 2-4 pm, can be very good as well. I day trade the indices, so tight stop and I trail it in hopes of a runner. Either way, I always let the market take me out....either hit profit limit or the trail stop.
It's amazing how it has a life of its own even though it tracks the DJIX......

Watching to see if it gets through the daily pivot.

edit: Technically it leads the DOW - fair value is found through the bets and hedges after fair value calculation.....Tracking would be way too easy.
  • #37,667
  • Jun 10, 2024 2:05pm Jun 10, 2024 2:05pm
Quoting dolamite
{quote}{quote} {quote} It's amazing how it has a life of its own even though it tracks the DJIX...... Watching to see if it gets through the daily pivot. edit: Technically it leads the DOW - fair value is found through the bets and hedges after fair value calculation.....Tracking would be way too easy.
yeah, the DPP is tough res today
  • #37,668
  • Jun 10, 2024 2:20pm Jun 10, 2024 2:20pm
Quoting Boulder
{quote} I have been scalp trading es in apex with tradovate all morning till now ..no issues at all.. Anyway, I have tried tradovate , quantower and topstepx for a month now. My favorite is topstepx
definitely Apex Tradovate glitches today. I copy trade 20 accounts and the one that got to my goal of up-n-over $200 for the day, is the only one.

lowest of the 20 accounts showing +$68

not from slippage. Some accounts picked up my 2nd additions (2 micros) while in profit, some didn’t. Strange…

edit - also difficulty closing/flattening trades as well.
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #37,669
  • Jun 10, 2024 2:23pm Jun 10, 2024 2:23pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} TopstepX also my favorite but I've never had an issue with Tradovate.
my very first issues w Tradovate are today, probably from rithmic people who were fed up, started new evals on Tradovate instead
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #37,670
  • Jun 10, 2024 2:27pm Jun 10, 2024 2:27pm
APEX has server problems because of traffic, but they keep extending these 90% sales and causing more and more people to buy and yolo 20x accounts over and over again, continuously bogging down the rithmic servers. Unless theyre doing it to force rithmic to upgrade them. idk. not looking good for APEX reputation, but i'm sure people will forget about it in due time and keep churning accounts.
  • #37,671
  • Jun 10, 2024 3:01pm Jun 10, 2024 3:01pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} {image}Darwin forex {image}Darwin futures Expo, or any Darwin users, completely lost here, I made $4,100 on the futures account, which is 1 mil, would be 0.41%, no? I know you have discussed their risk engine adjusting the trade size, can you point me to some type of tutorial on this?
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I guess it just does not update in real time.
  • #37,672
  • Jun 10, 2024 3:01pm Jun 10, 2024 3:01pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} yeah, the DPP is tough res today
Most probably don't have DOM, but this last little spike the algos were going crazy....
  • #37,673
  • Jun 10, 2024 3:05pm Jun 10, 2024 3:05pm
Quoting KeWbix
APEX has server problems because of traffic, but they keep extending these 90% sales and causing more and more people to buy and yolo 20x accounts over and over again, continuously bogging down the rithmic servers. Unless theyre doing it to force rithmic to upgrade them. idk. not looking good for APEX reputation, but i'm sure people will forget about it in due time and keep churning accounts.
are U familiar with apex?
what is the difference in the rules of ritmic & tradovate accounts
  • #37,674
  • Jun 10, 2024 3:25pm Jun 10, 2024 3:25pm
Quoting dolamite
{quote} Most probably don't have DOM, but this last little spike the algos were going crazy....
yes, the last 5-10 minutes, best not to be in the market, unless you have a runner. I had my profit at DPP and sometime in the 1 o'clock hour, price spiked 100 points within minutes.
  • #37,675
  • Jun 10, 2024 5:26pm Jun 10, 2024 5:26pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} {image} I guess it just does not update in real time.
To answer the question about the risk factor. Yes, it adjusts from the very beginning of the calibration phase. Mine was actually at 1.25 for a day or 2 because I was trading super small. Then I went insane and started trading 10+ lots to get to the 75 rating (which I did) but it smacked me down to 0.19. And now I'm stuck at 0.19 for 45 days. Kind of like a toddler getting an extended timeout

I suggest checking out the first few videos in Dzeros playlist. The guy really explains everything very well
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You can see what your risk factor is at on your "My Darwin" page in the lower left.
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If you click on the rectangular you can see if you're within the desired VaR range.
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As you can see I've been stuck at 0.19 for a month. If I go above 3 lots I'll never get recalibrated back to 1.0. Hopefully it will reset like they said in a couple more weeks. Then I'll just keep my total positions between 1-3 lots for the duration of my illustrious Dzero career
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #37,676
  • Edited 7:33pm Jun 10, 2024 7:04pm | Edited 7:33pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} To answer the question about the risk factor. Yes, it adjusts from the very beginning of the calibration phase. Mine was actually at 1.25 for a day or 2 because I was trading super small. Then I went insane and started trading 10+ lots to get to the 75 rating (which I did) but it smacked me down to 0.19. And now I'm stuck at 0.19 for 45 days. Kind of like a toddler getting an extended timeout I suggest checking out the first few videos in Dzeros playlist. The guy really explains everything very well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH4r...5zTx5a&index=1...

you can do "darwinex zero" in USA ???
looks good though
  • #37,677
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:07pm Jun 10, 2024 7:07pm
Anyone experience a delay in receiving PA for signature and payment with apex lately? Passed 2 more evals today, looking back at my others, I always received notification around 6-6:05 eastern. I only traded 8 days, but I purchased and completed while the 1 day to pass sale is on.
Not worried as they say up to two business days, it has just been immediate upon next day market open every time prior.
  • #37,678
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:16pm Jun 10, 2024 7:16pm
Anyone else having trouble logging in to their Apex Rithmic accounts? They said it was fixed in their discord, but I'm still having troubles logging in.

Topstep and Bulenox Rithmic work just fine.
  • #37,679
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:34pm Jun 10, 2024 7:34pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Anyone experience a delay in receiving PA for signature and payment with apex lately? Passed 2 more evals today, looking back at my others, I always received notification around 6-6:05 eastern. I only traded 8 days, but I purchased and completed while the 1 day to pass sale is on. Not worried as they say up to two business days, it has just been immediate upon next day market open every time prior.
Pip, I'm having issues with Quantower now, it worked fine during the NY session, got in and out of trades with a breeze. Additionally, it took about 10 minutes to log into Rithmic. I don't know if that answers your question but could be contributing to your situation.
  • #37,680
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:35pm Jun 10, 2024 7:35pm
Quoting maltrader
Anyone else having trouble logging in to their Apex Rithmic accounts? They said it was fixed in their discord, but I'm still having troubles logging in. Topstep and Bulenox Rithmic work just fine.
I am, keeps logging me out and now I can't get back in. I even refreshed Rithmic which took forever to load when normally it's instant. I installed the latest update too.
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