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  • #36,721
  • May 17, 2024 6:59pm May 17, 2024 6:59pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} You have (as so often) completely missed the point. What they want is to exclude people who had one lucky trade because unlike all the idiotic scammy CFD "funders" discussed here every day they’re actually putting real money into a real account to fund people’s trading, and they don’t want to do that when people have probably had one lucky trade. I wouldn’t, either, if I were funding people. Would you?!
NO you're missing the point as usual.

So they would rather have a trader make 1500 (half the target in one trade) than a trader, in this case, me, make 1700 total on 6 different trades. They aren't looking for consistent traders.

Anyways you're an idiot and continue to expose your stupidity. But thx for weighing in on the topic.

BTW, how's your beloved TradeDUD (Tradeday). Since they are the pinnacle of what a futures firm should look like can you explain why no one uses them?
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #36,722
  • May 18, 2024 12:47am May 18, 2024 12:47am
Received email from apex and watched darell video on new rules changes. It cleared alot of my doubtshttps://support.atf.com/hc/en-us/art...unded-Accounts
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #36,723
  • May 18, 2024 1:04am May 18, 2024 1:04am
Quoting montygoldy
Received email from apex and watched darell video on new rules changes. It cleared alot of my doubtshttps://support.atf.com/hc/en-us/art...unded-Accounts
I missed the rule that all indices always had to be the same direction, can’t go short with RTY and long with ES for example. I’ve already blown an account I guess.

”Contractor shall not spread trade indices ie long ES and short YM. All Apex accounts must be traded directionally only and never be both long and short at the same time in the same account or others in any correlated markets. For example all indices, metals, grains, or any instrument with correlation no matter the size i.e. micro, mini , etc Meaning contractor can not be short NQ and Long ES under any circumstance.”
  • #36,724
  • May 18, 2024 2:22am May 18, 2024 2:22am
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} I missed the rule that all indices always had to be the same direction, can’t go short with RTY and long with ES for example. I’ve already blown an account I guess. ”Contractor shall not spread trade indices ie long ES and short YM. All Apex accounts must be traded directionally only and never be both long and short at the same time in the same account or others in any correlated markets. For example all indices, metals, grains, or any instrument with correlation no matter the size i.e. micro, mini , etc Meaning contractor can not be short...
It's no surprise. It would be an hidden form of hedging. Not a direct 1:1, like long/short ES, but a very good proxy for casino machines that only charge 10%.

If we pull out a series of daily ES and NQ database we can trade the ratio between them. In real account is difficult (I did that many years ago with very limited success) but here, with apex low prices, it would be a money printing machine.
  • #36,725
  • May 18, 2024 3:20am May 18, 2024 3:20am
@montygoldy or anyone who can help me.
Would you help me with navigation with all these accounts on apex dashboard?

Do you have to cancel manually passed evals after paying for PA?
In my dashboard I can see only part of my accounts Eval + PA and I do not see a page 2/more button. I know I have other Subscriptions, but I wonder how I can access them. In my subscriptions are visible only 20 accounts. How I can access older evals to cancel subscription if I want?
  • #36,726
  • May 18, 2024 3:31am May 18, 2024 3:31am
Quoting fx_rookie
@montygoldy or anyone who can help me. Would you help me with navigation with all these accounts on apex dashboard? Do you have to cancel manually passed evals after paying for PA? In my dashboard I can see only part of my accounts Eval + PA and I do not see a page 2/more button. I know I have other Subscriptions, but I wonder how I can access them. In my subscriptions are visible only 20 accounts. How I can access older evals to cancel subscription if I want?
When you pay the fee for PA the correspondent Eval disappears if you do a refresh. It's canceled automatically by their system.
  • #36,727
  • May 18, 2024 3:41am May 18, 2024 3:41am
Quoting sampat
Next time you get PA account put real order 2000 points away from current market price in NQ and buy level 2 data and see your order won't be there....

Lol, you’re talking about Apex. They’re crooks and scammers and liars.

I was talking about Topstep, an honest company. And TradeDay and Earn2Trade are the same.

Among the futures funding companies, as far as I know, only Apex are crooks (and they won’t last long anyway, given all the complaints everywhere about payout problems with them).
  • #36,728
  • May 18, 2024 3:44am May 18, 2024 3:44am
Thank you! You are absolutely right!
I just paid 2 more PA, and for a short time before activation happened I would be able to see the Eval and Paid subscription (more than 20 accounts Eval+PA in Dahsboard simultaneously). Then after a minute and a refresh the evals were deleted.

I paid 10 PA lifetime subs for 50k (140 USD), but if I succeed to pass 10 more I am thinking of monthly subscription and more aggressive trading on them.
What's your strategy?
  • #36,729
  • May 18, 2024 3:55am May 18, 2024 3:55am
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Lol, you’re talking about Apex. They’re crooks and scammers and liars. I was talking about Topstep, an honest company. And TradeDay and Earn2Trade are the same. Among the futures funding companies, as far as I know, only Apex are crooks (and they won’t last long anyway, given all the complaints everywhere about payout problems with them).
Hi Karl,


besides those 3 , which others are worth considering ?

I would add the Thetradingpit
  • #36,730
  • May 18, 2024 6:57am May 18, 2024 6:57am
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Lol, you’re talking about Apex. They’re crooks and scammers and liars. I was talking about Topstep, an honest company. And TradeDay and Earn2Trade are the same. Among the futures funding companies, as far as I know, only Apex are crooks (and they won’t last long anyway, given all the complaints everywhere about payout problems with them).
You’re just salty because Apex has robbed market share from the prop firm you’re associated with.

Crooks scammers and liars are easily revealed and broadcasted in this space and yet no one has yet to show any proof.

Actually a lot are showing just the opposite. They have increased staffing for payouts and a lot of people are getting their deposits already for the 15th payout period.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #36,731
  • May 18, 2024 10:58am May 18, 2024 10:58am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You’re just salty because Apex has robbed market share from the prop firm you’re associated with.

Lol. I know that when experienced people disagree with you, you’d like to imagine that they have some financial incentive for doing so, but I’m not “associated” with any.

Not in any capacity at all.

Not even as a customer.

According to plenty of the people posting in this thread, I wouldn’t have the time, anyway: I’m allegedly too busy being a “shill” for the CFTC (however that might work!) or for LuxTrading (a company I’ve never used and never would!).


Quoting Stoneyrocks
I would add the Thetradingpit

I haven’t heard anything bad about The Trading Pit, I must say. The main place to look would be the forum at nexusfi.com (where there are now so many complaints about Apex) because The Trading Pit used to be one of the many sponsors of that forum and many of the members there have tried them. That forum doesn't ever remove bad reviews of their sponsors, so if there's nothing bad there, you can probably trust TTP?


Quoting Stoneyrocks
Karl, besides those 3 , which others are worth considering ?

Sorry, I just don’t know!
  • #36,732
  • May 18, 2024 11:03am May 18, 2024 11:03am
Quoting montygoldy
Received email from apex and watched darell video on new rules changes. It cleared alot of my doubtshttps://support.atf.com/hc/en-us/art...unded-Accounts
same
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #36,733
  • May 18, 2024 11:51am May 18, 2024 11:51am
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Lol. I know that when experienced people disagree with you, you’d like to imagine that they have some financial incentive for doing so, but I’m not “associated” with any. Not in any capacity at all. Not even as a customer. According to plenty of the people posting in this thread, I wouldn’t have the time, anyway: I’m allegedly too busy being a “shill” for the CFTC (however that might work!) or for LuxTrading (a company I’ve never used and never would!). {quote} I haven’t heard anything bad about The Trading Pit, I must say. The main place...
Well the reviews say you're full of as always.

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  • #36,734
  • May 18, 2024 12:07pm May 18, 2024 12:07pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Well the reviews say

From “Trust” pilot?! Lol … you call that “reviews”? ROFL …

Do grow up.

There’s nowhere easier on the web to plant good reviews or to have bad ones removed (well, nowhere apart from maybe Forexpeacearmy, but there it depends on your willingness to pay them).
  • #36,735
  • May 18, 2024 12:28pm May 18, 2024 12:28pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} From “Trust” pilot?! Lol … you call that “reviews”? ROFL … Do grow up. There’s nowhere easier on the web to plant good reviews or to have bad ones removed (well, nowhere apart from maybe Forexpeacearmy, but there it depends on your willingness to pay them).
Like I said before numbnuts, if Apex has been denying payouts it would be widely known.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #36,736
  • May 18, 2024 12:32pm May 18, 2024 12:32pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Lol, you’re talking about Apex. They’re crooks and scammers and liars.
100% complete and total bullsh*t spoken by Hot Karl
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #36,737
  • May 18, 2024 12:35pm May 18, 2024 12:35pm
Karl? Quickly?…
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  • #36,738
  • May 18, 2024 12:40pm May 18, 2024 12:40pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Lol. I know that when experienced people disagree with you, you’d like to imagine that they have some financial incentive for doing so, but I’m not “associated” with any. Not in any capacity at all. Not even as a customer. According to plenty of the people posting in this thread, I wouldn’t have the time, anyway: I’m allegedly too busy being a “shill” for the CFTC (however that might work!) or for LuxTrading (a company I’ve never used and never would!). {quote} I haven’t heard anything bad about The Trading Pit, I must say. The main place...

why would you never use Lux ? The only 1 I know that states very clearly that they do execute in the real market …
  • #36,739
  • May 18, 2024 2:25pm May 18, 2024 2:25pm
Quoting fx_rookie
@montygoldy or anyone who can help me. Would you help me with navigation with all these accounts on apex dashboard? Do you have to cancel manually passed evals after paying for PA? In my dashboard I can see only part of my accounts Eval + PA and I do not see a page 2/more button. I know I have other Subscriptions, but I wonder how I can access them. In my subscriptions are visible only 20 accounts. How I can access older evals to cancel subscription if I want?
Just remember one thing thats how i do it. If i fail a eval right away i go n cancel it no matter which firm it is in futures.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #36,740
  • May 18, 2024 3:06pm May 18, 2024 3:06pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
why would you never use Lux ?

It’s a CFD prop-firm. I trade futures.


Quoting Stoneyrocks
The only 1 I know that states very clearly that they do execute in the real market …

Yes, that’s right. I agree. If I was forced to suggest a CFD one to someone whose religion prohibited trading futures, I would probably suggest Lux. I wouldn’t use a CFD one myself, though. I want my broker to be on my side, not against me.
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