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  • #36,021
  • May 6, 2024 2:40pm May 6, 2024 2:40pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} I mean whatever you gain in signal only current month taken into account. {image}
Do you have to be the top performer in Silver to get to gold?
  • #36,022
  • May 6, 2024 3:08pm May 6, 2024 3:08pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} so if I get this right you can use quantower to Topstep , Apex and more with the same trades using the copier ? also commision free trading if you use TopStepx , I wonder if you pay 0 commissions when qualifying ..
you can use quant tower to copy between multiple firms. But i am using tradovate and trade manually different firms. There is some commissions .5tick worth. Spread is usually 1point or 2point in asia.
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  • #36,023
  • May 6, 2024 3:09pm May 6, 2024 3:09pm
Quoting genuine007
{quote} What do you mean by CAVEAT? I don't care about Ninja, tradovate or quantower. I have never ever used them in my life & I don't want to. I just checked this TopStepX trading platform and it seems easy to use & its clean & its original, not third party Its my first time ever in life with any future prop firm So it seems to me a good offer which I want to grab It will be a good start for me & will give me good understanding & make me friendly with futures trading & its prop firms I don't know how the payment is processed in here I see they...
you need to check their rules
monthly fee until you reach combine goal
drawdown follows your profits
daily dd will stop your account for one day
Max loss will freeze you until you reset (new pay) or until new monthly fee
once combine is done you will need to get at least 5 profitable days > 200 $ profits to withdraw 50% profits.
until 10k you will get 100% of your profits
Once reach 30 day profits (>200$) you can withdraw everything. 90/10 but you will need to leave some in account as drawdown to keep trading.

hope I wrote everything

ah… the offer is about top stepx platform.
you can trade on futures.

more: once in live funded you will need to pay extra for price fees subscription (135$ to 500$ x month depending on the want to trade)

check very well about futures, and before using the account, try in the practice one, to set with size, rules, orders etc. it’s different than spot and cfd shits.
i find it much much better. I will probably never come back to spot and cfd shitty spready brokers and only trade futures from now on.
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #36,024
  • May 6, 2024 3:13pm May 6, 2024 3:13pm
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} you need to check their rules monthly fee until you reach combine goal drawdown follows your profits daily dd will stop your account for one day Max loss will freeze you until you reset (new pay) or until new monthly fee once combine is done you will need to get at least 5 profitable days > 200 $ profits to withdraw 50% profits. until 10k you will get 100% of your profits Once reach 30 day profits (>200$) you can withdraw everything. 90/10 but you will need to leave some in account as drawdown to keep trading. hope I wrote everything ah…...
i thinnk after 5k profit they force you to live funded account with 130$ monthly data fees.
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  • #36,025
  • May 6, 2024 3:16pm May 6, 2024 3:16pm
Update for today decent day. Right on track

1. 400$ away for myfundedfutures FUNDED account drawdown threshhold (Will try to maintain 1k a day till friday to pull max 4500 from each account).
2. FOr Topstep good day will follow this same strategy for 1k a day probably by friday will pass these.

3. Yolo'ed the extra 5 unnecessary 50k APEX evals and failed in 1min and right away cancelled them from the Dashboard important piece.

4. Apex 20 PA will be activated with myfundedfutures payout. This tym i'll go with monthly subscription rather than 1 time.
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  • #36,026
  • May 6, 2024 3:17pm May 6, 2024 3:17pm
Btw, today started well with a good trade in oil then I got daily sl in topstep because I switched into the dumb mode.
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  • #36,027
  • May 6, 2024 3:21pm May 6, 2024 3:21pm
Quoting _BBKing_
Btw, today started well with a good trade in oil then I got daily sl in topstep because I switched into the dumb mode.
It happens my tip follow topsteptv and look for giveaway easily can score free resets....
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  • #36,028
  • May 6, 2024 3:29pm May 6, 2024 3:29pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} It happens my tip follow topsteptv and look for giveaway easily can score free resets....
yes will check tomorrow but kind of distracting I think
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  • #36,029
  • May 6, 2024 4:49pm May 6, 2024 4:49pm
Just bought a 50K combine with Topstep for $19. Promo doesn't apply for Tradovate but the Topstepx platform looks very similar. I don't see it as a problem.

I mean $19 doesn't even get me 4 gallons of gas where I live. At least I get some entertainment.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #36,030
  • May 6, 2024 5:47pm May 6, 2024 5:47pm
Just placed my first market order on Topstepx. Gotta admit, I'm liking it.

Just click the order then you can drag and drop the TP/SL into place and it shows the dollar amounts. Spreads, slippage, latency, etc I have no idea. I just leave that stuff to the professionals.
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  • #36,031
  • May 6, 2024 6:11pm May 6, 2024 6:11pm
I'm assuming this new TopStepX thing only works with TopStep and doesn't copy to other futures props or brokers? Website doesn't imply anything leaves TopStep. $19/month is a pretty fun number to dip your toe into the futures world, though.

EDIT: does say it has a built in trade copier, but assuming again its only for intra-TopStep accounts
  • #36,032
  • May 6, 2024 7:06pm May 6, 2024 7:06pm
Quoting TheDoug
I'm assuming this new TopStepX thing only works with TopStep and doesn't copy to other futures props or brokers? Website doesn't imply anything leaves TopStep. $19/month is a pretty fun number to dip your toe into the futures world, though. EDIT: does say it has a built in trade copier, but assuming again its only for intra-TopStep accounts
Not promoting anything if you still wanna save 2$ more you can get bulenox 50k for 17$. I am not using them coz they dont have tradovate
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  • #36,033
  • May 6, 2024 7:12pm May 6, 2024 7:12pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} Do you have to be the top performer in Silver to get to gold?
Nope 8 months of history.
Minimum Profit target is 20% with drawdown max of 8%
Profit should be 2.5 times drawdown. So if your drawdown is 10% profit should be 25%, if 20% profit should be 50%.
Keep in mind drawdown is floating relative like futures prop firm and above targets is for Darwin index NOT signal account which you trade.
so if you make 30% profit (130k for 100K account) and your equity or balance goes down to -10% (90K), your over all drawdown is 40% NOT 10%.
  • #36,034
  • May 6, 2024 8:12pm May 6, 2024 8:12pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Nope 8 months of history. Minimum Profit target is 20% with drawdown max of 8% Profit should be 2.5 times drawdown. So if your drawdown is 10% profit should be 25%, if 20% profit should be 50%. Keep in mind drawdown is floating relative like futures prop firm and above targets is for Darwin index NOT signal account which you trade. so if you make 30% profit (130k for 100K account) and your equity or balance goes down to -10% (90K), your over all drawdown is 40% NOT 10%.
Man, this Darwin thing feels like in job term a UNPAID INTERNSHIP. You pay outta pocket to get the experience on your resume to get funding.
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  • #36,035
  • May 6, 2024 8:20pm May 6, 2024 8:20pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Man, this Darwin thing feels like in job term a UNPAID INTERNSHIP. You pay outta pocket to get the experience on your resume to get funding.
Kind of agree on that. Nice money earner for the business, all these fees for demo coming in and small payouts for traders that may or may not last the distance.
  • #36,036
  • May 6, 2024 8:21pm May 6, 2024 8:21pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Not promoting anything if you still wanna save 2$ more you can get bulenox 50k for 17$. I am not using them coz they dont have tradovate
Had a look at their site, no $17 option to be found. Where did you see that?
  • #36,037
  • May 6, 2024 8:49pm May 6, 2024 8:49pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Man, this Darwin thing feels like in job term a UNPAID INTERNSHIP. You pay outta pocket to get the experience on your resume to get funding.
Problem is abra ka dabra darwin index, it is double edge sword if you trade little aggressive like I or expo's trade explorer he made 22% on his signal demo account but Darwin reduces risk and his darwin is 4 or 5%, If he trades less aggressive he has to wait for 3+ months to get seed capital which he just received.
Usually top earners in darwin trades their own personal account as signal account instead of demo so they will be patient and see progress. But since we are in US and Canada (land of protection and higher morals than rest of world we are not allowed to have personal account with darwinx) It is difficult to focus with same on darwin-zero (specifically designed for us with subscription fees)
  • #36,038
  • Edited 10:03pm May 6, 2024 9:26pm | Edited 10:03pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Problem is abra ka dabra darwin index, it is double edge sword if you trade little aggressive like I or expo's trade explorer he made 22% on his signal demo account but Darwin reduces risk and his darwin is 4 or 5%, If he trades less aggressive he has to wait for 3+ months to get seed capital which he just received. Usually top earners in darwin trades their own personal account as signal account instead of demo so they will be patient and see progress. But since we are in US and Canada (land of protection and higher morals than rest of...
Well I sort of agree but not really.

I can earn 5% in a month trading 2 lots which falls within the 3.25-6.5% VaR. Twenty trading days making $250 a day isn't unreasonable. The problem I have is the risk engine not recalibrating right away. I thought it was only activated when you are trading below or above the VaR range in real time.

So right now I have a profitable trade open which is well within the target VaR range but I'm getting penalized on my potential profit because the risk reduction is still at 81%. So basically what incentive do I have to trade within the acceptable range? I emailed them to see how long it takes to have the calibration recognize/reset based on my real time trades. I wish they had live char or Discord because I'm not sure how well staffed they will be at this stage for an email response.
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So for my 1.7 lot winning trade I don't get $480 added to my Darwin index, I get a paultry $91.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #36,039
  • May 6, 2024 10:24pm May 6, 2024 10:24pm
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} Had a look at their site, no $17 option to be found. Where did you see that?
just google bulenox coupon.... there are bunch of 90% off right there... last one i remember is HOT90
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  • #36,040
  • May 6, 2024 11:24pm May 6, 2024 11:24pm
19 $ per month (during passing stage)
149 $ one time activation fees (after passing the stage & to get live funded account, you have 30 days to pay the fees)
135 $ MONTHLY FEES FOR DATA (ridiculous) (and that too with just credit card only)

TOTAL = 303 $ for 50k Challenge Account Futures Prop Firm TOP STEP
THIS IS RIDICULOUS
I THINK, THERE IS NO DATA FEES OF 135 $ in TOPSTEPX trading platform
IF WE HAVE TO PAY 135 $, SORRY, I CAN'T START THIS.
BIG NO
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