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  • #34,881
  • Apr 13, 2024 2:20pm Apr 13, 2024 2:20pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Check my previous post i posted the exact statistics of apex investment. 6580$ to be exact in evals(this money could have been way way way less if i didnot try to pass it in 1 trade coz 99% odf time price hit my tp but before that it went to breakeven to take me out) + one time fee. 15 accounts will be eligible to pull 2k out of it on friday leaving behind atleast 2k or more drawdown (so its not like payment then account gone no no aim is to pull 2k every 10 days out of them) and rest 5 account the following week. 30k - 6580$ --> 23k + change...
i think you have the potential to be become a trading God but PLEASE leave some money on the table for the kiddies…
  • #34,882
  • Apr 13, 2024 2:51pm Apr 13, 2024 2:51pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} i think you have the potential to be become a trading God but PLEASE leave some money on the table for the kiddies…
lol those are just numbers till the money hit my bank account, until then its nothing. From my past performance there is always a hiccup or some BS when it time to get paid. Lets see how it goes. If apex does as per its reputation. I'll solely be focued on them. I've zero faith in fundingtraders already accepted it as lost money.
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  • #34,883
  • Apr 13, 2024 2:54pm Apr 13, 2024 2:54pm
Hey, can someone confirm if we can have multiple people from same household using different ID to have accounts in APEX @Artcool
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  • #34,884
  • Apr 13, 2024 2:59pm Apr 13, 2024 2:59pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Check my previous post i posted the exact statistics of apex investment. 6580$ to be exact in evals(this money could have been way way way less if i didnot try to pass it in 1 trade coz 99% odf time price hit my tp but before that it went to breakeven to take me out) + one time fee. 15 accounts will be eligible to pull 2k out of it on friday leaving behind atleast 2k or more drawdown (so its not like payment then account gone no no aim is to pull 2k every 10 days out of them) and rest 5 account the following week. 30k - 6580$ --> 23k + change...

Great results definitely. You can try to go for big money in one year
  • #34,885
  • Apr 13, 2024 3:06pm Apr 13, 2024 3:06pm
Quoting Eren10
{quote} Great results definitely. You can try to go for big money in one year
Yep once i receive payments i am gonna go crazy with evals same way when myuflashfunding payout came bought 2 million worth of challenges after that.
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  • #34,886
  • Apr 13, 2024 3:25pm Apr 13, 2024 3:25pm
Quoting montygoldy
Hey, can someone confirm if we can have multiple people from same household using different ID to have accounts in APEX @Artcool
You can, but the limit of 20 accounts applies to the whole household.
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #34,887
  • Apr 13, 2024 3:52pm Apr 13, 2024 3:52pm
Quoting Artcool
{quote} You can, but the limit of 20 accounts applies to the whole household.
ok thanks
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  • #34,888
  • Apr 13, 2024 5:05pm Apr 13, 2024 5:05pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Yep once i receive payments i am gonna go crazy with evals same way when myuflashfunding payout came bought 2 million worth of challenges after that.

50K capital at apex is already huge
  • #34,889
  • Apr 13, 2024 5:45pm Apr 13, 2024 5:45pm
Quoting montygoldy
Hey, can someone confirm if we can have multiple people from same household using different ID to have accounts in APEX @Artcool
So much has happened in prop firm in forex industry.

So many firms have changed their trading platform, and even denied account after passing, and then denied payouts.

The new emergence is futures prop firm.

But, I notice that no bad comments about FXIFY in general and then probably about FTMO.

May be I want to give a try with FXIFY, can you suggest any other ?

I am comfortable with higher profit targets as long as the firms do not play tricks.

My concern is I wish to trade in mt4
Intraday only.
  • #34,890
  • Edited 6:23pm Apr 13, 2024 5:46pm | Edited 6:23pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-keeping your withdrawals in line with their default maximums ensures that you and everyone else can maintain access for the long-term. Feeding your ego by trying to set records and make top-10 will not serve the community well and is really just selfish and greedy. Being able to dump 80k into your personal account each month should be enough for anyone. Just my opinion, but the fact remains that if enough people try to be hotshots, then it could ultimately kill the whole opportunity. Probably not what people want to hear, but all-too-often...
Here's the problem... Apex is promoting their big payouts as a marketing advantage... Patrick Weiland & Trades by Matt are affiliates of Apex when 3 months ago they were paid Topstep guys that talked shit about Apex and now that they have contracts with Apex they are both promoting the potential of massive payouts... that is what Apex is selling to the public.
  • #34,891
  • Apr 13, 2024 6:51pm Apr 13, 2024 6:51pm
Quoting CableJ
Here's the problem... Apex is starting to promote their big payouts as a marketing advantage... Patrick Weiland & Trades by Matt are affiliates of Apex when 3 months ago they were paid Topstep guys that talked shit about Apex and now that they have contracts with Apex they are both promoting the potential of massive payouts... that is what Apex is selling to the public.
-Yes. And probably, it has worked to bring in many new customers, along with everything else that has been going on for the past 6 months. As we know, FX props did the same thing with their marketing, only to realize that their model was not strong enough to sustain it. Hopefully, the Apex model is strong enough to sustain it.

Since Apex is always doing discounts, perhaps monitoring that will be a reasonable way to gauge solvency, assuming that they are smarter than the CEO's that are running the FX props. My hope would be that if things became too difficult, that they would restructure and simply start putting monthly caps on payouts. It's the obvious solution, really. Allowing traders to do 1M/month payouts just doesn't seem smart to me. 80k is plenty. The statistics should work out in the firm's favor over the long-term. The downside would be that they would probably have to do away with the larger account sizes (maybe).

It is difficult to know what the real statistics are for Apex in an effort to try to measure the resilience of the model. The pass rate is presumably higher since it's structured as a one-phase challenge on the surface. It's still ultimately a two-phase challenge, though, with the difference being that you get to keep the profits from phase two. The stricter rules should help to prevent many cheaters and gamblers from reaching payouts.

Time will tell. The model is obviously stronger. Hopefully, the decision-makers are smarter and wiser.
  • #34,892
  • Apr 13, 2024 7:27pm Apr 13, 2024 7:27pm
Quoting navk
{quote} So much has happened in prop firm in forex industry. So many firms have changed their trading platform, and even denied account after passing, and then denied payouts. The new emergence is futures prop firm. But, I notice that no bad comments about FXIFY in general and then probably about FTMO. May be I want to give a try with FXIFY, can you suggest any other ? I am comfortable with higher profit targets as long as the firms do not play tricks. My concern is I wish to trade in mt4
i tried multiple fxify challenges only thing i hate about them is their spreads and fixed slippages on opening and closing trades. Rest i never cleared a challenge with them. Best trading conditions wise with no nonsense ls ftmo, aloha capital and somewhat e8markets (only issue id their btc spread if you dont trade btc then alright)
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #34,893
  • Apr 13, 2024 7:32pm Apr 13, 2024 7:32pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Yes. And probably, it has worked to bring in many new customers, along with everything else that has been going on for the past 6 months. As we know, FX props did the same thing with their marketing, only to realize that their model was not strong enough to sustain it. Hopefully, the Apex model is strong enough to sustain it. Since Apex is always doing discounts, perhaps monitoring that will be a reasonable way to gauge solvency, assuming that they are smarter than the CEO's that are running the FX props. My hope would be that if things...
its opposite pass rate is very less than you expect cause of trailing drawdown. Everyday i follow all these big futures youtubers and they blow 2-3 funded accounts as well as eval everyday on live stream. My feeling is apex model is good coz they are aiming for consistent traders not a one shot gamblers that way the only survived traders after 3 months payout restrictions are the top cream of traders and they can easily copy them. In the end the best way to survive is copying profitable traders with challenge money not just one.
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  • #34,894
  • Apr 13, 2024 7:59pm Apr 13, 2024 7:59pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i tried multiple fxify challenges only thing i hate about them is their spreads and fixed slippages on opening and closing trades. Rest i never cleared a challenge with them. Best trading conditions wise with no nonsense ls ftmo, aloha capital and somewhat e8markets (only issue id their btc spread if you dont trade btc then alright)
i trade only fx. And GU only.

Long ago, i traded withem and earned funded account, got back my fee refund.

Threre after i violated loss limits
Intraday only.
  • #34,895
  • Apr 13, 2024 8:15pm Apr 13, 2024 8:15pm
Quoting navk
{quote} i trade only fx. And GU only. Long ago, i traded withem and earned funded account, got back my fee refund. Threre after i violated loss limits
then go ahead with them also alot here use 5%ers they are good as well i never personally tried them
For me my forex prop firm challenge journey to build 2million funding is done. Only gonna hold my ftmo 2x200k. If i try challenges in future it will be apha, e8, 5%ers and fundednext or somewhat true forex funds thats it.
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  • #34,896
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:04pm Apr 13, 2024 9:04pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} Apex is promoting their big payouts as a marketing advantage... that is what Apex is selling to the public.
if you are on Instagram or Twitter, it's no different than what every other forex and futures prop does, which sucks, because you want them to be different somehow, but they aren't. they promote the big payouts to bring in more challenges, which pays for the payouts, rinse and repeat. we should all swear a blood oath to join Apex for 4 months only, get your $80k/month for 3 months, then empty your account in month 4, just keep the train moving for those who come after us
  • #34,897
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:08pm Apr 13, 2024 9:08pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} i think you have the potential to be become a trading God
don't want to pee in his Cheerios because he's making money and that's all that matters, but he's blown 80 challenges. a trading God practices good risk management
  • #34,898
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:38pm Apr 13, 2024 9:38pm
Quoting TheDoug
{quote} don't want to pee in his Cheerios because he's making money and that's all that matters, but he's blown 80 challenges. a trading God practices good risk management
Absolutely agree those 80 losers is because they only costed 37$ a piece which made me to yolo to pass in a single trade setup. I could have passed in my first 20 challenges but i have a different approach. I dont want to be too slow to pass a challenge. So i first try different things with cheaper challenges same thing i did with forex prop firms in the beginning bought challenges in batch and lost alot of them. Coz i dont just lose i gain experience and figure out what works for Me. In return what i have gained is PLAN WHICH WORKS FOR ME so i pass easily forex challenges without a sweat without Yolo'ing or nonsense risk management. For futures now i know how to conquer the trailing drawdown and soon i am going to trade 3x150k myfundedfutures + 3x150k topstep evals (with next payout will buy window pc setup coz i am macuser need quantower). I am fully confident going to pass them in 1 go. So in the end its not about how perfect the score instead its about building a plan which makes you profitable and losers are the part of process.... peace
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  • #34,899
  • Edited 10:33pm Apr 13, 2024 10:20pm | Edited 10:33pm
Quoting Capablanca
In the meantime I received the payout from FXIFY but not without having to cry over support to get paid after more than 48 hours without anything happening. They changed to Rise but it seems the disorganization is the same. From Blue not a word, despite multiple contacts. Always "checking" and "processing". I guess they may be struggling financially (and my payout is just 3K nothing huge)
Did you get your payout ?

I see that they pay thro rise account. Some one wrote in trust pilot, they pay thro wise account.

Can you share the link to open account with rise ? And what other withdrawal methods available ? I have wise account though.

I may sign up for a small discounted account with fxify to see if they are ok
Intraday only.
  • #34,900
  • Apr 13, 2024 10:35pm Apr 13, 2024 10:35pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Check my previous post i posted the exact statistics of apex investment. 6580$ to be exact in evals(this money could have been way way way less if i didnot try to pass it in 1 trade coz 99% odf time price hit my tp but before that it went to breakeven to take me out) + one time fee. 15 accounts will be eligible to pull 2k out of it on friday leaving behind atleast 2k or more drawdown (so its not like payment then account gone no no aim is to pull 2k every 10 days out of them) and rest 5 account the following week. 30k - 6580$ --> 23k + change...
how many accounts have u blown or how many accounts do u counter trade? you are nothing but a spammer
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