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  • #34,721
  • Apr 11, 2024 11:37am Apr 11, 2024 11:37am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} which website is that?
email from canadianfuturestrader.ca
  • #34,722
  • Apr 11, 2024 11:38am Apr 11, 2024 11:38am
Quoting CableJ
{quote} 11 accounts max... but only 3 upfront, from there 1 @ a time for every account you get past the payout threshold payouts never go unlimited, 1500 per 50K is max.... you can only cash out 2.6K reserve on account termination. 10d min trade days for payout, payouts every week on wed.
so 1500$ per 10 days lifetime?
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  • #34,723
  • Apr 11, 2024 11:43am Apr 11, 2024 11:43am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} so 1500$ per 10 days lifetime?
1.5K x 11 accounts (16.5K) per 10 days traded.... 2-3 payouts per month
  • #34,724
  • Apr 11, 2024 11:53am Apr 11, 2024 11:53am
I would personally do...

Apex (20) > Bulenox (11) > Take profit (3) > Topstep (3) > Elite trader (3)

I would stay away from brand new firms.
Trade day is expensive & only 1 account.
MFFU = I don't trust matt and his FX prop payment denial history
  • #34,725
  • Apr 11, 2024 12:09pm Apr 11, 2024 12:09pm
Quoting CableJ
I would personally do... Apex (20) > Bulenox (11) > Take profit (3) > Topstep (3) > Elite trader (3) I would stay away from brand new firms. Trade day is expensive & only 1 account. MFFU = I don't trust matt and his FX prop payment denial history
lovely will start with bulenox.. before that i need to to prepare a platform to copy in all these firms. I guess quant tower
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  • #34,726
  • Apr 11, 2024 12:19pm Apr 11, 2024 12:19pm
Quoting procrude
Hello guys, Any way to fix the chart delay (approx 10 min) for futures in tradingview. My tradingview dow futures feed is delayed by 10 min vs tradovate feed.
You pay extra $5/month for live futures feed
  • #34,727
  • Apr 11, 2024 12:27pm Apr 11, 2024 12:27pm
Quoting TheDoug
{quote} You pay extra $5/month for live futures feed
Yes! just signed up for the futures feed it was $7 per month extra well worth it. Tradovate charting sucks... i love my setups on tradingview
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #34,728
  • Apr 11, 2024 1:01pm Apr 11, 2024 1:01pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} 11 accounts max @ Bulenox... but only 3 upfront, from there 1 @ a time for every account you get past the payout threshold. Payouts never go unlimited, 1.5K profit per 50K account is max.... you can only cash out 2.6K reserve on account termination. 10d min trade days for payout, payouts every week on wed.
So it seems to me that there is no point in doing thousands and thousands in short time in Bulenox because we can only cash out them if we close the account. Makes sense why they are then cheaper than Apex.
Anyway it's a good alternative to have some more accounts. The beauty of Apex is that the work in one account is replicated for 20 with no effort. It's like having only one account, if we want.
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Just wanted to thank CableJ, Cryptosurf and Sampat for all the help with the futures props. I still want to chop your head because of the trailing stop of these props but, anyway, I really appreciate the contribution you've been providing to all the noobs in the arena, like myself.
  • #34,729
  • Apr 11, 2024 1:04pm Apr 11, 2024 1:04pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Strange... in payment method I only have personal details. If I save it nothing happens, no other screen to insert bank details (or plane or anything else). Is that something that only shows up when we get to the payout ? I'm from Europe.{image}
I think changing the payment type to international is all you need to do. Then they sent invitation during payment processing.
  • #34,730
  • Apr 11, 2024 1:07pm Apr 11, 2024 1:07pm
Quoting CableJ
I would personally do... Apex (20) > Bulenox (11) > Take profit (3) > Topstep (3) > Elite trader (3) I would stay away from brand new firms. Trade day is expensive & only 1 account. MFFU = I don't trust matt and his FX prop payment denial history
Exactly. I say we all avoid MyFundedFutures, he doesn't deserve any of our business.
  • #34,731
  • Apr 11, 2024 1:08pm Apr 11, 2024 1:08pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} In fact I had Plane when I received an E8 payout but that was a different email. from Apex's email.
I'm also in that situation, i wonder if plane will allow two different emails, which is effectively creating 2 accounts with them.
  • #34,732
  • Apr 11, 2024 1:27pm Apr 11, 2024 1:27pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} So it seems to me that there is no point in doing thousands and thousands in short time in Bulenox because we can only cash out them if we close the account. Makes sense why they are then cheaper than Apex. Anyway it's a good alternative to have some more accounts. The beauty of Apex is that the work in one account is replicated for 20 with no effort. It's like having only one account, if we want. ------------------ Just wanted to thank CableJ, Cryptosurf and Sampat for all the help with the futures props. I still want to chop your head...
i second that thanks y'all
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  • #34,733
  • Apr 11, 2024 1:54pm Apr 11, 2024 1:54pm
question i already have apex tradovate accounts will it work with quantower
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  • #34,734
  • Apr 11, 2024 2:07pm Apr 11, 2024 2:07pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} So it seems to me that there is no point in doing thousands and thousands in short time in Bulenox because we can only cash out them if we close the account. Makes sense why they are then cheaper than Apex. Anyway it's a good alternative to have some more accounts. The beauty of Apex is that the work in one account is replicated for 20 with no effort. It's like having only one account, if we want. ------------------ Just wanted to thank CableJ, Cryptosurf and Sampat for all the help with the futures props. I still want to chop your head...
I second that. And thx to Pipmaster. This thread introduced me to futures, specifically Apex
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #34,735
  • Apr 11, 2024 2:09pm Apr 11, 2024 2:09pm
Quoting montygoldy
question i already have apex tradovate accounts will it work with quantower
I don’t think so, but not 100% sure
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #34,736
  • Apr 11, 2024 2:10pm Apr 11, 2024 2:10pm
Quoting montygoldy
question i already have apex tradovate accounts will it work with quantower
will not.
  • #34,737
  • Apr 11, 2024 4:24pm Apr 11, 2024 4:24pm
Great info here .why are so many traders jumping to futures atm .cheers.
  • #34,738
  • Apr 11, 2024 4:35pm Apr 11, 2024 4:35pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} So it seems to me that there is no point in doing thousands and thousands in short time in Bulenox because we can only cash out them if we close the account. Makes sense why they are then cheaper than Apex. Anyway it's a good alternative to have some more accounts. The beauty of Apex is that the work in one account is replicated for 20 with no effort. It's like having only one account, if we want. ------------------ Just wanted to thank CableJ, Cryptosurf and Sampat for all the help with the futures props. I still want to chop your head...
Another point. With bulenox there is no monthly fees account flat 150$ account. At max you can have 3 active accounts (you can pass 100 if anyone wants)
Once all of them passes withdrawal threshold one can active additional account up to 11(so without passing threshold only 3 are allowed)
So every one except Apex doesn't allow withdrawal of profits so essentially it is 3 step challenge.
One pass challenge another pass withdraw threshold and last to eligible for withdrawal one needs to make same amount.
So for 50K account one needs to make atleast 5K to withdraw.
  • #34,739
  • Apr 11, 2024 5:03pm Apr 11, 2024 5:03pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Another point. With bulenox there is no monthly fees account flat 150$ account. At max you can have 3 active accounts (you can pass 100 if anyone wants) Once all of them passes withdrawal threshold one can active additional account up to 11(so without passing threshold only 3 are allowed) So every one except Apex doesn't allow withdrawal of profits so essentially it is 3 step challenge. One pass challenge another pass withdraw threshold and last to eligible for withdrawal one needs to make same amount. So for 50K account one needs...
that payout criteria made me drop bulenox for now.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #34,740
  • Apr 11, 2024 5:48pm Apr 11, 2024 5:48pm
Quoting Htmrw
Great info here .why are so many traders jumping to futures atm .cheers.
Because a lot of us are Americans and we don't have any choice.
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