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  • #33,921
  • Apr 2, 2024 7:19am Apr 2, 2024 7:19am
Quoting PropDude1234
At least those platform providers have the balls to stay in the US unlike cowardly MetaQuotes, thus giving you some options rather than no options.
Metaquotes has too much to lose, these platforms nobody knew them or barely used them they just in for the quick money
  • #33,922
  • Apr 2, 2024 7:41am Apr 2, 2024 7:41am
Match trader and DX trade shouldn't ever be used. They are absolutely vomit. But if you are going to use them make them the master account and others the slaves because that way you get no extra delay in the horrendous execution engines and your "bad account" is your master. You likely will only get better pricing on the slaves.
  • #33,923
  • Edited 9:22am Apr 2, 2024 8:02am | Edited 9:22am
I really do not see why as non-US FX trader you should use DXTrade or MatchTrader. I count over 19 prop firms where you can still use MT5 and copy from external source, like your own broker account or other prop firm account. Those few props who have no MT or cTrader and with only internal or even no copy trading rule, should and can be dismissed by everyone. There are plenty of other good and paying alternatives. And in case, the best, I think is diversification than rather sitting on 2 props.
  • #33,924
  • Apr 2, 2024 8:06am Apr 2, 2024 8:06am
Quoting FxRobertt
{quote} I find it very laggy. If you have it opened for a certain time and reload it, it just stops working. cTrader has the same problem if you close it and open it up again, takes ages to reconnect.
Not sure if you use ctrader in web version or stand alone version. I use the stand alone (the one we install in windows) both in TFF and Blue and it's fine, always connected. I don't dislike ctrader. Not as good as Meta, but not bad either. Very far from the horrendous Match Trader and DXtrader.
In fact I had traded with ctrader for a couple of months in my personal ICMarkets account because commissions were cheaper and I don't have much to blame in terms of "workability". I don't remember exactly why I came back to Meta but I don't have much bad memories from ctrader (and defently not much claims now in TFT and Blue).
  • #33,925
  • Apr 2, 2024 10:58am Apr 2, 2024 10:58am
Quoting TraderTero
{quote} This could work depending on your prop: https://danetrades.com/ Make sure to ask Dane before buying.
wow - Thank you!
MetaTrader 4 - so many advantages.
  • #33,926
  • Apr 2, 2024 1:17pm Apr 2, 2024 1:17pm
Quoting Takisd
Match trader and DX trade shouldn't ever be used. They are absolutely vomit.
They're fine.

Very much a 'bad workman blames his tools'.

Those and all the EA cheats / abusers who aren't happy.
  • #33,927
  • Apr 2, 2024 1:23pm Apr 2, 2024 1:23pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}They're fine. Very much a 'bad workman blames his tools'. Those and all the EA cheats / abusers who aren't happy.
Only a fugging idiot like yourself would consider them robust platforms.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #33,928
  • Apr 2, 2024 1:30pm Apr 2, 2024 1:30pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Only a fugging idiot like yourself would consider them robust platforms.
Considering i said use those platforms as the main its a bit ironic no.

Watching MFFX and swift (which is same company anyway) get ddos on dxtrade is hilarious. I haven't even started testing vulns on either platform yet, not my style but I am tempted to do it. Fairly sure I could script attack both of them. Again, not something I would do as crime isn't really high on my to do list.
  • #33,929
  • Apr 2, 2024 2:13pm Apr 2, 2024 2:13pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Only a fugging idiot like yourself would consider them robust platforms.
They are working fine.

Bad traders blaming their platforms. It was ever thus.
  • #33,930
  • Apr 2, 2024 2:26pm Apr 2, 2024 2:26pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}They are working fine. Bad traders blaming their platforms. It was ever thus.
Meanwhile on match trader, peoples stops are getting hit before price hits there and idiot CEO's like khaled are calling it slippage. Outages where the users have to refresh over and over again.

Must be traders fault.
  • #33,931
  • Apr 2, 2024 2:29pm Apr 2, 2024 2:29pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Meanwhile on match trader, peoples stops are getting hit before price hits there and idiot CEO's like khaled are calling it slippage. Outages where the users have to refresh over and over again. Must be traders fault.
And MetaTrader had / has plenty of issues. Often because it's archaic in its infrastructure. 8cap used to have regular issues.

That's what happens with software / IT.

Plus DX and Match are going through the stress test of prop scale for the first time.
  • #33,932
  • Apr 2, 2024 3:36pm Apr 2, 2024 3:36pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}And MetaTrader had / has plenty of issues. Often because it's archaic in its infrastructure. 8cap used to have regular issues. That's what happens with software / IT. Plus DX and Match are going through the stress test of prop scale for the first time.
But you just blamed the trader.

So which is it?
  • #33,933
  • Apr 2, 2024 3:43pm Apr 2, 2024 3:43pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} But you just blamed the trader. So which is it?
I'm blaming the trader for blaming normal platform issues as an excuse for their crap trading

If you're in the US get used to the available platforms or stop trading CFD props.

Simple.
  • #33,934
  • Apr 2, 2024 4:03pm Apr 2, 2024 4:03pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}I'm blaming the trader for blaming normal platform issues as an excuse for their crap trading If you're in the US get used to the available platforms or stop trading CFD props. Simple.
So you do not believe that a faulty platform messes with emotions of the most fragile of successful retail traders?

On my personal accounts if I had such problems, I would withdraw immediately and move to someone without them. US or not. I think its time we call a spade a spade and match trader and DX trade aren't the future, aren't reliable and might as well close up shop now and let the real innovators step up.
  • #33,935
  • Apr 2, 2024 4:16pm Apr 2, 2024 4:16pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}I'm blaming the trader for blaming normal platform issues as an excuse for their crap trading If you're in the US get used to the available platforms or stop trading CFD props. Simple.
"Normal Platform Issues"

What a moron to say shit like that.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #33,936
  • Apr 2, 2024 4:31pm Apr 2, 2024 4:31pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} So you do not believe that a faulty platform messes with emotions of the most fragile of successful retail traders? On my personal accounts if I had such problems, I would withdraw immediately and move to someone without them. US or not. I think its time we call a spade a spade and match trader and DX trade aren't the future, aren't reliable and might as well close up shop now and let the real innovators step up.
Well said. Neither one is ready for prime time. They may be able to catch up and be a robust platform in the future perhaps, but for now they are garbage.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #33,937
  • Apr 2, 2024 4:33pm Apr 2, 2024 4:33pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}I'm blaming the trader for blaming normal platform issues as an excuse for their crap trading If you're in the US get used to the available platforms or stop trading CFD props. Simple.
Yes, Quantower it is.
  • #33,938
  • Apr 2, 2024 5:21pm Apr 2, 2024 5:21pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} So you do not believe that a faulty platform messes with emotions of the most fragile of successful retail traders? On my personal accounts if I had such problems, I would withdraw immediately and move to someone without them. US or not. I think its time we call a spade a spade and match trader and DX trade aren't the future, aren't reliable and might as well close up shop now and let the real innovators step up.
They're the future for US prop as far as I can see.

The money is there, so where are the innovators?

Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} "Normal Platform Issues" What a moron to say shit like that.
What data do you have to conclude otherwise?

Do you have the issues / down time of MT vs the other platform for prop?

Or % of users reporting issues vs who aren't?

No, you don't. So you're guessing.
  • #33,939
  • Apr 2, 2024 7:04pm Apr 2, 2024 7:04pm
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  • #33,940
  • Apr 2, 2024 9:07pm Apr 2, 2024 9:07pm
Quoting PropDude1234
They are working fine. Bad traders blaming their platforms. It was ever thus.
-This statement is not on a par with your usual contributions.

I have not used either one of these platforms, but I have used other platforms. I can say that not all platforms are bug-free, efficient and intuitive etc., and not all complaints may be coming from bad traders.
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