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  • #32,421
  • Mar 2, 2024 4:37pm Mar 2, 2024 4:37pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You never suggested TTP when you said that nonesense did you? Take another guess why TTP is not even discussed as a viable prop firm here, or pretty much anywhere. You have zero knowledge or experience what’s being discussed here.
yes I have . It's obvious. most people can comprehend that if they read my previous posts.
  • #32,422
  • Mar 2, 2024 4:40pm Mar 2, 2024 4:40pm
Quoting Markula
rather than trade futures , it might be easier to find a firm where you can trade etfs. This would be easier for me since I don't have to worry about rolling over contracts on soybeans or whatever, rbob gas. I haven't decided yet though. although etfs I think you can only buy, not sell, if you can predict all of them like me, it won't really matter, just wait for buying opportunities and swing trade that. No need for cfds or futures. I'm not sure how the recent developments affect tradethepool though or others.
literally the same post I mentioned tradethepool, what firm do you think I'm suggesting? I've seen nothing on why it's not viable.
  • #32,423
  • Mar 2, 2024 4:56pm Mar 2, 2024 4:56pm
Just got myself a cheeky 200k challenge with Alphacapital, 30% off this time, sadly no 40%. Paid 700 dollars which is still cheap for a 200k account with a good firm. I didn't think the raw account was worth it since its not really raw spread just a little lower but commissions are added. I do tend to trade alot so commissions will be a good chunk of my profits so chose the normal account.
  • #32,424
  • Mar 2, 2024 4:59pm Mar 2, 2024 4:59pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} literally the same post I mentioned tradethepool, what firm do you think I'm suggesting? I've seen nothing on why it's not viable.
You thinking TTP is a legitimate prop firm speaks volumes. Others have done the research, you obviously did not.

Stick to what you think you know, zAr and sOybEans lol
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  • #32,425
  • Mar 2, 2024 5:34pm Mar 2, 2024 5:34pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You thinking TTP is a legitimate prop firm speaks volumes. Others have done the research, you obviously did not. Stick to what you think you know, zAr and sOybEans lol
I don't need to stick to anything since I have mastered everything including indices, you on the other hand are confined to scalping the NQ until they eventually limit the # of accounts you can have and your whole trade the opening strategy fails, and probably sooner than later, since they keep coming up with new restrictions. A rank amateur to one who has played the game for centuries.
  • #32,426
  • Mar 2, 2024 5:44pm Mar 2, 2024 5:44pm
Quoting Capablanca
As I said I got an old TFT account migrated to DXtrade Today I set a pending order which didn't hit but after the red news of today I tried to login there and nothing happened. Right now twitter has a lot of claims from people that lost their accounts or that could not close positions. Apparently their Discord is on fire as well. Angelo never fails in his bingo card - Took more than a month with delays after Deel kicked props out - The slowest providing credentials - The slowest processing payouts (when he pays) - Complete screwed migration to DXTrade...
I have often defended TFT here because in 2 years, they have never refused me the slightest payment. But what I have been reading over the past few days leaves me stunned because it comes from people who I describe as very serious.
I think the TFT machine is running amok. There is something wrong.
  • #32,427
  • Mar 2, 2024 5:51pm Mar 2, 2024 5:51pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} I don't need to stick to anything since I have mastered everything including indices, you on the other hand are confined to scalping the NQ until they eventually limit the # of accounts you can have and your whole trade the opening strategy fails, and probably sooner than later, since they keep coming up with new restrictions. A rank amateur to one who has played the game for centuries.
Wait, you mastered everything everywhere and yet here you are reduced to talking on a FX forum?

Complete clown show you are
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  • #32,428
  • Mar 2, 2024 5:53pm Mar 2, 2024 5:53pm
Quoting Nehemah
{quote} I have often defended TFT here because in 2 years, they have never refused me the slightest payment. But what I have been reading over the past few days leaves me stunned because it comes from people who I describe as very serious. I think the TFT machine is running amok. There is something wrong.
Complete meltdown it appears.
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  • #32,429
  • Mar 2, 2024 6:10pm Mar 2, 2024 6:10pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Wait, you mastered everything everywhere and yet here you are reduced to talking on a FX forum? Complete clown show you are
in the US it's still hard to succeed as a swing trader even if you mastered everything because they restrict what asset classes you can trade from one account. Surgetrader got rid of stocks, LUX I can't trade with anymore because they banned the US so I can't trade their crypto account. But sure gloat because you're little futures niche is working well for you. I'll be opening an account shortly with that too. The US does everything possible to make it tough .
  • #32,430
  • Mar 2, 2024 6:15pm Mar 2, 2024 6:15pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} in the US it's still hard to succeed as a swing trader even if you mastered everything because they restrict what asset classes you can trade from one account. Surgetrader got rid of stocks, LUX I can't trade with anymore because they banned the US so I can't trade their crypto account. But sure gloat because you're little futures niche is working well for you. I'll be opening an account shortly with that too. The US does everything possible to make it tough .
Hold up, you used Surgetrader to trade stocks? And then used LUX to trade crypto???

JFC, you're a bigger then anyone realized.
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  • #32,431
  • Mar 2, 2024 9:43pm Mar 2, 2024 9:43pm
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  • #32,432
  • Mar 2, 2024 9:45pm Mar 2, 2024 9:45pm
Quoting MarkosMom
{quote} From a customer perspective, it's likely because 50k accounts have a 1:1 drawdown/profit ratio (or near enough) whereas the drawdown on the higher value accounts is closer to half the profit target. From a firm perspective, it's a scam, because they get you on the authentication fee which tends to be the same irrespective of account size.
sounds about right
  • #32,433
  • Mar 2, 2024 9:45pm Mar 2, 2024 9:45pm
Quoting Nehemah
{quote} I have often defended TFT here because in 2 years, they have never refused me the slightest payment. But what I have been reading over the past few days leaves me stunned because it comes from people who I describe as very serious. I think the TFT machine is running amok. There is something wrong.
if you do a search on TFT's discord for "payout" "voyage" or "dxtrade" you will see the current train wreck on full display.
  • #32,434
  • Mar 3, 2024 4:58am Mar 3, 2024 4:58am
Quoting Nehemah
{quote} I have often defended TFT here because in 2 years, they have never refused me the slightest payment. But what I have been reading over the past few days leaves me stunned because it comes from people who I describe as very serious. I think the TFT machine is running amok. There is something wrong.
There's a couple of props where I received a lot of payouts but where I was also cautious, expecting the worse because I was being seeing a lot of bad things happening to others.
From the most profitable ones I remember TPT and Funding talent. Funding talent we saw a lot of denials and rules changing every week. We could expect them to shut down any time, which eventually happened. TPT started to refuse payouts and failed account for unwritten rules. We could smell something.

I must say that I find TFT surprisingly resilient, despite all problems and issues they had during the last 2 years. They are my most profitable prop and I didn't have a single payout issue, as well, in abou 20 payouts or so. Nevertheless I still don't trust a bit in their longevity. Angelo is a guy that pretends to project an image that doensn't match with his actions.
  • #32,435
  • Edited 9:59am Mar 3, 2024 5:20am | Edited 9:59am
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Because in reality that's the bulk of their income? It's FUTURES that are the "honest and transparent market" I keep referring to, in contrast to CFD's: you know this perfectly well. Nobody's saying futures prop firms are an honest and transparent market. All I'm saying is that they're hugely better than CFD prop firms because after you're funded at least you're trading in an honest and transparent market rather than a scammy, fraud-ridden one. And as I keep on saying, that's factual. I don't disagree with you about the trailing DD. I never...
how you can never learn about your mistakes you repeat here like a robot!?

for daytrading currencies futures are stupid market, also for some other strategy combinations. so for sure you are total wrong with your fact, that futures are the better product always.
only because you repeat your mistake it will never be a true fact, at least educate yourself about this and stop telling this again and again. very unfair from you against traders, when you dont show the whole picture or real picture.

the reality and truth is: futures are better for some strategy combinations, in other strategy combinations they are total shit.

maybe you are someone who dont need liquidity because of small trading size, like more risk in market (because you dont care about your money), like more costs (because bigger win is not important for you), less possibilities, more complicated..... because all this is futures trading in daytrading currencies.

will be a long time event to educate you about this fact. i cant believe you tell here you worked in the industry and know not about this. i can only imagine this happens because you only traded in fund with very specific topics and never was really a trader, maybe only investor or not really get educated about reality of trading?

after you got corrected so many times, at least you should start read about reality and stop tell about your fantasy world in trading, thats total wrong fact!
sorry for the hard words, but you do this big mistakes now again and again and again so many times after got corrected and shown wrong, that it feels like you do it by purpose.
  • #32,436
  • Mar 3, 2024 5:28am Mar 3, 2024 5:28am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} how you can never learn about your mistakes you repeat here like a roboter!? for daytrading currencies futures are stupid market, also for some other strategy combinations. so for sure you are total wrong with your fact, that futures are the better product always. only because you repeat your mistake it will never be a true fact, at least educate yourself about this and stop telling this again and again. very unfair from you against traders, when you dont show the whole picture or real picture. the reality and truth is: futures are better...
For daytrading indices, maybe gold and oil, I would agree futures are better. For currencies, absolutely no way. I will continue to trade currencies with the remaining prop accounts I have until I am only left with US broker offerings......at that point, other than leaving USA, forex career is over. In anticipation of this occurrence, I have been daytrading the indices on the futures side for over a year. In a perfect world, you need both markets.
  • #32,437
  • Mar 3, 2024 5:31am Mar 3, 2024 5:31am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} For daytrading indices, maybe gold and oil, I would agree futures are better. For currencies, absolutely no way. I will continue to trade currencies with the remaining prop accounts I have until I am only left with US broker offerings......at that point, other than leaving USA, forex career is over. In anticipation of this occurrence, I have been daytrading the indices on the futures side for over a year. In a perfect world, you need both markets.
Never say never.
  • #32,438
  • Mar 3, 2024 5:45am Mar 3, 2024 5:45am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Never say never.
Yes, I am still optimistic. I still have 2 open funded prop accounts with the 2 most reputable firms in the business. Just stating, I have already made the move in anticipation of the worse case scenario. Best case, I trade fx with the props and futures with props and amp. Worse case, I am a futures trader only, I will not trade forex with the garbage offered by CFTC regulated brokers.......it's not even the rules, I don't need the leverage, multiple accounts eliminate the FIFO and no hedging (if needed)........I just want a raw feed, no games and protection of my funds....you know, all of the things regulation should actually provide (like in other jurisdictions).
  • #32,439
  • Mar 3, 2024 7:48am Mar 3, 2024 7:48am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} Better use TV to trade too... It was so bad this morning in Apex Tridovate.. screen froze,, slow on entry and exit.. a terrible experience.. ...
Yes. I've realized I can only use TV for charts. Will need to execute on Tradovate. I have been logged out countless times on TV while in a trade. Fun. I had heard good things about Quantower before I chose Tradovate. I was so green to Futures and all the new platform choices, I went with the devil that I (halfway) knew in TV which required Tradovate.
  • #32,440
  • Mar 3, 2024 9:57am Mar 3, 2024 9:57am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} For daytrading indices, maybe gold and oil, I would agree futures are better. For currencies, absolutely no way. I will continue to trade currencies with the remaining prop accounts I have until I am only left with US broker offerings......at that point, other than leaving USA, forex career is over. In anticipation of this occurrence, I have been daytrading the indices on the futures side for over a year. In a perfect world, you need both markets.
CME will try to bring interbank market and futures together in one in last half of 2024. but lets see how this will work out, then maybe will change the bad situation for trading currencies with futures.
yes, for indices in bigger sizes futures are better.
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