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  • #31,721
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:14pm Feb 24, 2024 2:14pm
Quoting genuine007
{quote} prop business is finished now
Prop business is OK. USA traders have problems...
  • #31,722
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:22pm Feb 24, 2024 2:22pm
Holy shit these futures guys have an IV drip of cope. "yeh its shit because like regulators wont hate it if its shit right, eval firms better because its illegal". You sound like the fuckwad I listened to on the APEX videos. Give up.
  • #31,723
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:26pm Feb 24, 2024 2:26pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} no I think soon maybe by year end, it says on their site that it's something they're working on
actually you're probably right, they've been saying there will be a mac os version since 2021 but has never happened.
  • #31,724
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:29pm Feb 24, 2024 2:29pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Funding Pips is not allowing Match in Poland or USA. So not sure how long Match will survive either. Is it a broker level ban or a platform level ban? TBH, I truly don't give a shit any longer. I am just using the firms I am "grandfathered" into until they pull that rug and trading at AMP. Maybe I'll grab some of these $17 APEX accounts again. Blew 4 of them last year and 2 of them actually had positive equity when I blew them......kind of turned me off. If I was single, I would have left this shithole of freedom 10 years ago. Although,...
After Dodd Frank all the brokers in the World doesn't survive without USA traders? Now...the prop model will be OK. Not in USA. USA traders ...less than 7 % for prop firms.
  • #31,725
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:32pm Feb 24, 2024 2:32pm
Quoting labu
Regarding futures trading 1-2 decades to the gentlemen who bloat about trading back then. Trading in those days before the algobots were quite different from after the algobots started to affect the market in a massive way. Many "older" traders of futures just couldnt handle it to having to relearn and adapt to the new market the algobots brought with them. So I can imagine if it was painful back then to trade futures when it was mostly about reaction of the up and down signals of candles in fastest way possible which determine the profit levels....
I find futures to be much easier to trade on the hourly, fx has too many random spikes that stop you out, and you need a widen stop loss, whereas that's extremely rare with commodities, except occasionally natural gas. But of course there are very few options to swing trade futures.
  • #31,726
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:38pm Feb 24, 2024 2:38pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} It’s probably time you reveal who you work for before making such comments
You are sick.
  • #31,727
  • Feb 24, 2024 2:45pm Feb 24, 2024 2:45pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //---- what really confuses me is why these prop guys just don't ask Fat to remove any symbol that causes trouble..... there must be more to it...... oanda does it..... forex.com does it..... there are swap compliant accounts, fifo complaint accounts, hedge compliant accounts even currency complainant accounts..... and there can't be cfd compliant accounts..... makes no sense.... Fat , would just change the dang symbol set..... unless there is more...
I've thought the same thing, remove the naughty uncompliant symbols, but in the end it's all keeping the small traders in the US or the big$ would have no losers to hand the junk off to at the right time. In the 2008 mortgage fraud, the big$ was telling clients to buy, buy, buy the mortgage backed swaps while getting out from under them themselves. (Granted, a percentage of this was sold outside the US - a great example of why a one world economy is stupid at best.) They need the patsies. It took them months to move all that junk and a couple companies still got stuck with them and bankrupted. And, all along, they were charging fees/interest to the guys who figured it out and were on the correct side of the market. The Big Short is an informative movie on how all of this works...and it's humorous at the same time.

Anyway, you're considered a patsy until you're worth ten million dollars.
  • #31,728
  • Feb 24, 2024 3:02pm Feb 24, 2024 3:02pm
I got a DX Trade account and let me just say how pathetically shit that platform is. The people who develop and sell it should be completely ashamed of themselves.

It really doesn't surprise me that these people have strung up a circlejerk deal with Mr Hertzberg, scum sticks to scum.
  • #31,729
  • Feb 24, 2024 3:10pm Feb 24, 2024 3:10pm
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} Prop business is OK. USA traders have problems...
I’m an American on mt5 with FTMO, 5ers, ACG, CTI, FXIFY prop firms. Diversify. So some life left…
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #31,730
  • Feb 24, 2024 3:47pm Feb 24, 2024 3:47pm
I would rather trade on another platform than MT5 with a FX prop and static DD than on a futures prop with trailing DD still. The chances are still much better despite it is not comfortable to trade with. But if you do not scalp anyway or need to rely too much on a single platform, it is still acceptable. The no copy trading feature is the most disadvantage I find especially if you have mutliple accounts to trade with because of diversifying risk among different prop firms. I hope MT5 will survive on most.
  • #31,731
  • Feb 24, 2024 4:24pm Feb 24, 2024 4:24pm
Quoting rizla101
{quote} I agree. First used crypto payout due to the deel fiasco. Opted for kraken, easy to use and quick transfers to your bank. Now my preferred payout method accept for direct bank transfer.
Yup, Kraken has been smooth as glass for me for the past 3 years.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #31,732
  • Feb 24, 2024 5:29pm Feb 24, 2024 5:29pm
Quoting Takisd
I got a DX Trade account and let me just say how pathetically shit that platform is. The people who develop and sell it should be completely ashamed of themselves.
-Haven't looked at DX Trade yet, but I felt this same way about ACT Trader.

The platforms that are built on Trading View at least have familiarity in their favor, since many traders have used it for charting at some point. However, the features are severely lacking still, from what I have seen, and I have also read many comments about horrible latency problems when using it for actual trading.
  • #31,733
  • Feb 24, 2024 6:06pm Feb 24, 2024 6:06pm
anyone that follows these 2 on twitter... has anyone ever seen trader nok/eval propfirms talk critically about or even mention futures props?
  • #31,734
  • Feb 24, 2024 6:31pm Feb 24, 2024 6:31pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Haven't looked at DX Trade yet, but I felt this same way about ACT Trader. The platforms that are built on Trading View at least have familiarity in their favor, since many traders have used it for charting at some point. However, the features are severely lacking still, from what I have seen, and I have also read many comments about horrible latency problems when using it for actual trading.
It’s bad imho. Very “clunky”
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #31,735
  • Feb 24, 2024 7:27pm Feb 24, 2024 7:27pm
Quoting CableJ
anyone that follows these 2 on twitter... has anyone ever seen trader nok/eval propfirms talk critically about or even mention futures props?
Sometimes I see mentions of future props in passing conversations only. He really only came about after MFF got hit.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #31,736
  • Feb 24, 2024 7:54pm Feb 24, 2024 7:54pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Sometimes I see mentions of future props in passing conversations only. He really only came about after MFF got hit.
seems like the same timing as 2-3 of the critical posters here.... hmmmmmmmm
  • #31,737
  • Feb 24, 2024 11:14pm Feb 24, 2024 11:14pm
Quoting JustPipMe
{quote} I’m an American on mt5 with FTMO, 5ers, ACG, CTI, FXIFY prop firms. Diversify. So some life left…
And...you can't have new accounts. So...it's a problem.
  • #31,738
  • Feb 25, 2024 1:07am Feb 25, 2024 1:07am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} 50K is the most popular as it will provide you with $2,500 DD, target only 3K. Once you go above, the target to DD ratio becomes pretty absurd.
For what it's worth, if this translates well to your previous formula, this is what I got for results:
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  • #31,739
  • Feb 25, 2024 1:44am Feb 25, 2024 1:44am
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} Prop business is OK. USA traders have problems...
that guy with payout denial is not from USA
  • #31,740
  • Feb 25, 2024 1:45am Feb 25, 2024 1:45am
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} For what it's worth, if this translates well to your previous formula, this is what I got for results: {image}
yeah, thanks but can you please share more details like how to trade futures after buying apex account, how to trade on tradovate something like that
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