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  • #27,421
  • Dec 20, 2023 11:00am Dec 20, 2023 11:00am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Soviet European Union
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #27,422
  • Dec 20, 2023 11:02am Dec 20, 2023 11:02am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Exactly, that's WHY it would be ideal........it would weed out all of the garbage that has popped up in the last 12-18 months.
I'm sure FTMO would meet the criteria and I'm sure MFF would have been able to as well. Imagine that, the only 2 we really EVER needed.
  • #27,423
  • Dec 20, 2023 11:04am Dec 20, 2023 11:04am
Just read some pages on here. You guys are so silly sometimes in your frustration .

  1. Sam Bankman French Fried
  2. Divided States of America
  3. Soviet European Union

  • #27,424
  • Dec 20, 2023 11:31am Dec 20, 2023 11:31am
Humor is medicinal in times of insanity.
  • #27,425
  • Dec 20, 2023 11:57am Dec 20, 2023 11:57am
So what is the next timeline for MFF vs. CFTC ?
  • #27,426
  • Dec 20, 2023 12:04pm Dec 20, 2023 12:04pm
Quoting TrAndy1
So what is the next timeline for MFF vs. CFTC ?
I think if they push it out to 2026, they will have accomplished what all of the interests paid, I mean "lobbied" for.
  • #27,427
  • Dec 20, 2023 12:13pm Dec 20, 2023 12:13pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I think if they push it out to 2026, they will have accomplished what all of the interests paid, I mean "lobbied" for.
Be serious and not ironic please. I know you have so much hate against, but what is the probably outcome for the next weeks now ?
I mean they have interests to come to a solution rather sooner than later or ? If the CFTC takes her job serious they would not go to full trial, as it takes years. Until then there is wild west still anywhere else. I think they want to come to a solution for them so they can take actions against other props or middlemen for props.
  • #27,428
  • Dec 20, 2023 12:22pm Dec 20, 2023 12:22pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Be serious and not ironic please. I know you have so much hate against, but what is the probably outcome for the next weeks now ? I mean they have interests to come to a solution rather sooner than later or ?
I think someone posted something about this possibly lasting until October.......and no, the CFTC has absolutely zero interest in a quick resolution.
  • #27,429
  • Dec 20, 2023 12:50pm Dec 20, 2023 12:50pm
I would love to enlighten on this page, but a bunch of CFTC water-carriers are on here so its pointless to get into that discussion on the tiers of the judicial system and the probability of a guilty verdict.

The burden of proof in an SRO hearing is dogshit. Getting a verdict at trial requires way more. Settlement is what the CFTC will want.
  • #27,430
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:25pm Dec 20, 2023 1:25pm
Quoting Takisd
Settlement is what the CFTC will want.
But they probably want settlement with conditions that MFF doesn't want to accept.
  • #27,431
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:34pm Dec 20, 2023 1:34pm
On a side note, anyone thinking the yearly highs are in on the indices?
  • #27,432
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:36pm Dec 20, 2023 1:36pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} But they probably want settlement with conditions that MFF doesn't want to accept.
True. I think it's going to trial. Fortunately, MFF has lawyers that are pitbulls and aren't going to back down.
  • #27,433
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:37pm Dec 20, 2023 1:37pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} But they probably want settlement with conditions that MFF doesn't want to accept.
They need to spring over their shadow then. A trial and 1 year more would be much more harm. There is a trade-off for them to accept something they do no want.
  • #27,434
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:38pm Dec 20, 2023 1:38pm
Quoting pipmaster77
On a side note, anyone thinking the yearly highs are in on the indices?
No, the SP500 made no new alltimehighs. I can imagine it will go much higher from here. So it would just another dip to buy. The year high should be made next week.
  • #27,435
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:42pm Dec 20, 2023 1:42pm
Quoting pipmaster77
On a side note, anyone thinking the yearly highs are in on the indices?
Why do you ask that ? I mean the SP500 is more than 20% undervalued because of rate cuts next year. So no reason to sell in a bull market.
  • #27,436
  • Dec 20, 2023 1:53pm Dec 20, 2023 1:53pm
There has been just a 1% sell-off in the SP500. You can dip buy it for at least 2% or 3% short term gains I would say. No advice of course. Just my thought if trend last.
  • #27,437
  • Dec 20, 2023 2:00pm Dec 20, 2023 2:00pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Why do you ask that ? I mean the SP500 is more than 20% undervalued because of rate cuts next year. So no reason to sell in a bull market.
Just thinking a correction is due. A 10 day winning streak needs a correction.
  • #27,438
  • Dec 20, 2023 2:07pm Dec 20, 2023 2:07pm
Quoting Takisd
its pointless to get into that discussion on the tiers of the judicial system and the probability of a guilty verdict.
“Guilty verdicts” can arise only in criminal proceedings. There are no criminal proceedings here.


Quoting Takisd
Settlement is what the CFTC will want.
Yes - you’re right, there. For sure. For many reasons.
  • #27,439
  • Dec 20, 2023 2:07pm Dec 20, 2023 2:07pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Just thinking a correction is due. A 10 day winning streak needs a correction.
That is what all people think not only today but for weeks. They are all waiting for that damn correction, which should not come because of that of course. They sit on cash.
  • #27,440
  • Dec 20, 2023 2:12pm Dec 20, 2023 2:12pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} “Guilty verdicts” can arise only in criminal proceedings. There are no criminal proceedings here. {quote} Yes - you’re right, there. For sure. For many reasons.
So what would a Jury find them then? "maybe they did it?" The CFTC asked for a Jury trial.
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